Zorn76 wrote:I'm surprised - thought for sure we'd get nailed on something.
As for Pete and discipline...well, he talked to Jefferson.
I dunno, these kinds of things are pretty rare when it gets to that kind of level,
but it was a bad look regardless, to put it mildly.
Zorn76 wrote:I'm surprised - thought for sure we'd get nailed on something.
As for Pete and discipline...well, he talked to Jefferson.
I dunno, these kinds of things are pretty rare when it gets to that kind of level,
but it was a bad look regardless, to put it mildly.
mykc14 wrote:I’m not surprised at all that the Bennett and Richardson weren’t suspended. What Bennett did wasn’t illegal. It is perfectly within the rules, again unlikely to be successful, but still against the rules. The Jags response did as much, if not more, to instigate the shoving match after the play as anything the Hawks did. Richardson’s ‘punch’ was about as weak as a punch can be in the NFL. That type of thing happens at least 10-20 times an NFL season without the offender ever being suspended. I thought maybe Jefferson had a chance to be suspended, just because it looked so bad and he was close to making it up into the stands.
RiverDog wrote:
The brawl that was started by Bennett fit all but a couple of the actions noted in that letter, including triggering a melee, endangering sideline personnel trying to control the situation, throwing punches, and engender ill will between the teams. Certainly the Crabtree-Talib incident was worse, but it also got both players 2 games. If those two got a 2 game suspension, they could have easily justified a 1 game suspension for at least one and as many as three of our guys.
RiverDog wrote:
Once again, it's not the action of the initial play that was the problem, it's what occurred after the whistle.
We've seen suspensions for similar transgressions, like they did this season when they suspended Michael Crabtree and Aquib Talib. Among other things, here's some language in the letter the league sent to Crabtree explaining the 2 game suspension:
"Your actions triggered a melee and endangered various sideline and league personnel, including one of our game officials who was injured trying to maintain control of the situation," Runyan said in his letter to Crabtree. "Finally, during the ensuing altercation, you grabbed and twisted that same opponent's facemask and threw a punch at him. Such actions have no place in this game, engender ill will between teams, and lead to further confrontations."
The brawl that was started by Bennett fit all but a couple of the actions noted in that letter, including triggering a melee, endangering sideline personnel trying to control the situation, throwing punches, and engender ill will between the teams. Certainly the Crabtree-Talib incident was worse, but it also got both players 2 games. If those two got a 2 game suspension, they could have easily justified a 1 game suspension for at least one and as many as three of our guys.
mykc14 wrote:All but a couple of things? I don't really see anything similar.
What in the letter actually occurred in the game on Friday after Bennett's play?
RiverDog wrote:
Did it enraged various sideline league personnel: No
First off, the term used in the letter was endangered, not enraged. Secondly, there most definitely WAS a very significant risk to sideline personnel as numerous objects were being thrown from the stands.
Trigger a melee: No- If what happened at the end of Bennett's play is a melee then there are melees in just about every NFL game.
I beg to differ. In a fight where there were three players from just one team that everyone agrees could have been suspended, with fans throwing objects from the stands, I'd say that qualifies as a melee.
Injuring a game official: No
Agreed, but they were unnecessarily thrust into a very dangerous situation.
Grabbed and twisted an opponents facemask: No
Agreed.
Threw a punch at him: No
There most definitely was at least one punch thrown by Richardson.
I'm not saying that the two situations were equal in severity. I was just using it as an example. All I am saying is that there was enough activity going on to where the NFL would have been on very solid ground to issue at least one and as many as three suspensions.
mykc14 wrote:The letter to Crabtree was all about HIS actions, as in HE threw a punch, he twisted a face mask, etc. Comparing the two incidents doesn’t really work. This was about what one of our guys did or didn’t do. The NFL didn’t look at the Crabtree incident and say we’re suspending these guys because one person started a melee, another guy threw a punch, another guy twisted a face mask, and another guy endangered sideline personnel. Crabtree did ALL of those things.Plus the incidents on Sunday were over 2 separate plays, the second of which Bennett wasn’t even involved in so anything having to do with Jefferson incident has nothing to do with Bennett. So looking at it from the perspective of what Bennett did or didn’t do:
Again did BENNETT’s actions endanger (sorry about typing enraged that was a typo) various sideline personnel? The answer is NO. The bottles being thrown and that stuff happened the NEXT play. A play that Bennett wasn’t even involved in, so how could his actions be the cause of endangering any sideline league personnel?
Again did his events trigger a melee? NO. Like I said before the events that happen on the ONE play that Bennett was involved in happen in the NFL 15-20 times a year... the fact that Richardson threw a punch does not make it a melee, and the incident with Jefferson was on a completely different play.
Again threw a punch: NO. Bennett did NOT throw a punch. Crabtree wasn’t suspended because other people threw punches he was suspended because of all the things he did individually, including throwing a punch.
RiverDog wrote:
It was Bennett's actions that started everything. He was the root cause without which nothing happens. Root cause was also mentioned in the letter about the Crabtree incident.
We'll have to agree to disagree about the definition of a melee. I thought it was.
Punches were thrown, and objects were tossed from numerous fans in the stands. It was a serious incident. We've seen people seriously injured from incidents like that...although admittedly, the league doesn't permit a lot of objects to be brought into the stadium that could be made into dangerous projectiles like they used to.
Let's not get hung up on the finer details of the Crabtree incident vs this one. I used it simply because it was recent and had in it what I thought were some commonalities. My point is that the league had plenty of justification to issue one or more suspensions.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
obiken wrote:Man I am shocked, what a nut less league and commissioner. Sorry Bennett should have been suspended.
obiken wrote: Sorry Bennett should have been suspended.
NorthHawk wrote:It looks like he was actually going a little sideways which creates the impression he rolled into the Center.
The Center barely moves and pretty much falls over Bennett.
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