Hawktawk wrote: Dems have drawn a clear distinction between themselves and the Grand Old Pervs as they have sacked everyone, cleared the decks. They are more than willing to toss an unwilling Franken overboard so that they could draw this distinction. Meanwhile 3 credibly accused Republican predators remain untouchable, Blake Farenthold, Roy Moore and Trump himself .
Because Republican voters don't care as much if at all. This movement is a Social Justice Warrior movement without any trials. Right now any crying woman can find a reporter to report some instance of inappropriate behavior. A female could accuse you right now and you'd suddenly seem like a bad guy. This has reached "Boy Who Cried Wolf" levels and once it peters out, people will become desensitized to it. It's now a social media movement where people are being tried and hanged with the barest of evidence. Anti-Social Justice Warrior movement won't care about that.
I just marvel at anyone who hears Trump on tape and listens to the 14 women and believe a Fing word out of his mouth about the topic.Trump is a movement. No one cares that he's lying. All they care about is a guy is in The Oval Office is telling the Social Justice Warrior movement they can go "F" themselves. People are pretty tired of the politically correct, social justice warrior movement to the point they can ignore the majority of this. Only those you can press real criminal charges against matter. The fact is to many Trump supporters these women look weak. If they start digging too deep, they'll find that just as many women were enablers in these situations because they were looking for money and success. It was part of the game in Hollyweird and big business. Why do think these guys have trophy wives to begin with? Some women will gladly trade their dignity and self-respect for a step up.
Explaining any of it away as an old blowhard making stuff up is what I meant by fanatical irrational defense of the Groper.Yes he's a blowhard GROPER so infused with a sense of entitlement and power he believes he can say and do whatever he wants. He's so messed in the head he thinks it's not only ok to do these illegal things but brag to public media people about it. Frankly I think a prosecuting attorney would be able to bring charges against anyone else with this scenario of taped admission and verification by victims.All that matters is what they can stick in a court of law. Trump's tape is circumstantial evidence at best. That is why so many are being tried in the media, not the court rooms. Once you get these women on the stand and their lives come under the microscope for lawyers, things will change a lot. I doubt many of these women want that.
As for Impeachment I'm almost certain Mueller is on the trail of impeachable offenses and already has the goods based on who is singing and the careless stupidity of the Trump team with electronic communications.We already discussed this part. Impeachment doesn't mean removal from office as Clinton was impeached, lied on the witness stand, and still did his full term. As far as the rest, we'll see. Looks to me like Trump's supporters are building a very good case for bias against him that will allow him to fire Mueller and his team. He can keep doing that over and over again if Mueller doesn't show some real evidence very soon. The Democrats and Mueller better bust something big soon, the more Trump and his supporters can show a clear bias against him, the more he can stall their investigations.
I think Mueller will have his findings before the midterm and will present impeachable offenses to Ryan. I doubt Ryan will do anything much as the Dem senate refused to remove Clinton. Thats where the women voters and the millennials and the democrats and disaffected never trumpers come in. Does a guy with impeachable offenses and credible accusations of groping from 14 woman get another term or even finish his term?Clinton did. Man lied on TV in front of America and finished his term and is still so well-loved that his wife almost won the White House knowing he would be in there possibly groping and screwing interns again. You watched this happen. In fact, I would like you right now to query a bunch of Democrat, left-leaning women about Bill Clinton. I talked to a mid-30s "feminist" about Clinton, she still liked him even with how he treated his wife and child and the accusations of groping. Go ask a bunch of Democrat women in their 30s to 40s what they think of Bill Clinton, who was every bit as bad as Trump but more well-spoken, then get back to me with the answers. I really want to hear what they say with percentages.
As I say the only purple state national referendum was in Virginia and women overperformed by almost 20 points for democrats who overperformed by 10 points and buried the GOP in a statewide landslide including flipping the state legislature. It's a long time to Nov but I think the Repubs are in deep doo doo one way or another.The tapes of Roy Moore and Trump endorsing him will be in every race in the country. We'll see. Virginia does not represent the entire nation.
And its not helpful when he pops off like today's tweet to Sen Kirsten Gillibrand who called on his resignation saying she is a "lightweight" Begged for campaign contributions and "would do anything to get them". Finished the text calling her "USED!" Good luck with that Trump. This is one of the Democratic hopefuls hes taking on, an attractive well spoken Senator who is positioning herself beautifully for 20. He will not win this fight.Yeah. I saw that. I see they made it into a sexual reference without Trump doing anything. Let's be real. If Trump cured cancer, solved the Middle East, and brought about World Peace, guys like you and the left wing media would find a way to spin it into a negative.
This is not going away, its only going to get worse with the escalator in chief on twitter.
I think its going to matter.I think people care more than you think.I wish they cared about more than hating Trump. I wish they cared about learning about the real issues afflicting their country and not being a bunch of mindless dolts that care more about a how a guy speaks than what policies he represents. I wish America as a whole were smarter about their political choices. I wish they weren't so easily suckered by words. I wish they had values that were in line with their nation's constitution rather than whatever group has managed to create the best articles or news bits to sway them. I wish they didn't get so much information from sources like Fox News, John Oliver, Rush Limbaugh, and Jon Stewart. I wish America read more. I wish they cared enough to vote based on an educated understanding of what it means to be a free person absent this class and party warfare bullcrap that seems to be driving so much in politics nowadays.
Then again Our Founders knew that would never happen, so the next best thing was to paralyze the country with infighting. That is exactly what we have.