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RiverDog wrote:Kind of a ho-hum hire, but at least it's a change.
NorthHawk wrote:Schottenheimers Offenses have a lot of pre-snap motion. That's something we haven't seen under Pete and with Bevell.
It's built on the Coryell model and is also used by Sean Payton and Belichick, so we at least should see something a little different. TE is also a big factor with him often using 2 TEs in the passing game.
It's going to be interesting to see how the Offense evolves and the players adapt.
c_hawkbob wrote:I'm OK with Schott as OC if it's who Pete think he can work with. I can't pretend to know as much about these candidates a Pete does.
RiverDog wrote:According to Pete, the reason they pounced on him relatively quickly was that they knew who it was they wanted so they pulled the trigger to lock him up "before other teams got involved." Since he's coming from one of the worst teams in the league and hasn't had a great track record, I'm a little unclear as to who those teams might have been.
As far as yielding to Pete's judgement on this matter, I'll do it without hesitation when it involves the defense, but not nearly as quickly when it involves the offense. But apparently he knew who it was he wanted, so we'll see.
NorthHawk wrote:I take is as a why take a chance and wait when you know who you want situation. I don't know if it's a good or bad hire, but at least it's moving forward.
Here's an insight into his Offense and philosophy. The article is a few years old and is about using the TE's, but it talks about a myriad of formations.
This might give some of us hope of at least some creativity that we didn't see in the last few years and a little of what to expect.
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/georg ... ght-end-u/
Aseahawkfan wrote:If Schottenheimer is focused on TEs, this means they will likely make a real run at keeping Jimmy.
idhawkman wrote:Maybe Pete just wanted someone on the coaching staff to be older than him so he could feel younger... :b
RiverDog wrote:I had an interesting conversation with a friend, a passionate Seahawk fan that used to post with us a lot, that has a little different take on our recent hiring's that I think deserves some thought.
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He's pretty disappointed, says that Pete is surrounding himself with yes men that think like he does, that his advancing age is causing him to seek a certain comfort zone where there is little if any disagreement with anything he says. Rather than injecting some badly needed new blood and new ideas into a team that still has a decent core and a once in a generation talent at QB, it's the SOS with different faces. He thinks that Carroll is coasting into retirement and will be gone in two years, not having come close to duplicating his previous efforts that brought home two of our three SB appearances and our only Lombardi.
Not exactly something you'd hear coming out of the mouths of the standard Kool-Aid servers.
RiverDog wrote:I had an interesting conversation with a friend, a passionate Seahawk fan that used to post with us a lot, that has a little different take on our recent hiring's that I think deserves some thought.
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He's pretty disappointed, says that Pete is surrounding himself with yes men that think like he does, that his advancing age is causing him to seek a certain comfort zone where there is little if any disagreement with anything he says. Rather than injecting some badly needed new blood and new ideas into a team that still has a decent core and a once in a generation talent at QB, it's the SOS with different faces. He thinks that Carroll is coasting into retirement and will be gone in two years, not having come close to duplicating his previous efforts that brought home two of our three SB appearances and our only Lombardi.
Not exactly something you'd hear coming out of the mouths of the standard Kool-Aid servers.
I don't really see this. I think he believes so strongly in his overall philosophy that he wants guys who are like-minded, not because he doesn't like controversy but because he believes it works. Why hire a guy who runs an offense that you philosophically don't agree with. it doesn't make any sense.
RiverDog wrote:I had an interesting conversation with a friend, a passionate Seahawk fan that used to post with us a lot, that has a little different take on our recent hiring's that I think deserves some thought.
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He's pretty disappointed, says that Pete is surrounding himself with yes men that think like he does, that his advancing age is causing him to seek a certain comfort zone where there is little if any disagreement with anything he says. Rather than injecting some badly needed new blood and new ideas into a team that still has a decent core and a once in a generation talent at QB, it's the SOS with different faces. He thinks that Carroll is coasting into retirement and will be gone in two years, not having come close to duplicating his previous efforts that brought home two of our three SB appearances and our only Lombardi.
Not exactly something you'd hear coming out of the mouths of the standard Kool-Aid servers.
RiverDog wrote:I had an interesting conversation with a friend, a passionate Seahawk fan that used to post with us a lot, that has a little different take on our recent hiring's that I think deserves some thought.
,
He's pretty disappointed, says that Pete is surrounding himself with yes men that think like he does, that his advancing age is causing him to seek a certain comfort zone where there is little if any disagreement with anything he says. Rather than injecting some badly needed new blood and new ideas into a team that still has a decent core and a once in a generation talent at QB, it's the SOS with different faces. He thinks that Carroll is coasting into retirement and will be gone in two years, not having come close to duplicating his previous efforts that brought home two of our three SB appearances and our only Lombardi.
Not exactly something you'd hear coming out of the mouths of the standard Kool-Aid servers.
chris98251 wrote:I see this as Pete going to guys he knows and trusts that have been successful, Schott with his dad and his record with QB's and running game, everyone else a tie from the past that he trusts and will have his back, think of it as an all star coaching push for Pete.
Hawktawk wrote:He’s hardly throwing anyone under the bus RD. Bevell should have been gone Feb 3 2015. Cable probably a year ago at least. The ravens fired their OC in 2012 during a lombardi winning season. Mike Mularkey got fired after going to the divisional. It’s a new league all of a sudden. I hope for the best but the hires look like same old system. Hopefully not.
RiverDog wrote:I wouldn't go into Kansas City trumpeting Marty Shchottenheimer's coaching record. You'd get more disgusting looks that you would if Rosie O'Donnell appeared in a string bikini. You can make as many excuses as you want, crap teams he's had to work with and so on, but the fact is that Brian Schottenheimer does not have a lot of feathers in his cap.
And ASF, I'd have to do some research into coaching hires before I could agree or disagree with your assertation that most coaches do the same thing Pete has done, ie always hire within a narrow school of thought that aligns almost perfectly with his overall strategy, but my sense is that there have been head coaches that have not been as insistent on towing the HC's general philosophy and have strayed away from it.
Like I said, I don't necessarily agree with this take, especially the part about Pete coasting into retirement. He's made enough money to where if he didn't have his heart in it, he could easily punch out and sell books or appear as a sports analyst. But the rest of it, sticking with his yes men, is something to think about. If the next couple of seasons turn out to be carbon copies of the past few, you can bet that people will be re-visiting these hires. He's not going to be able to throw these guys under the bus as he's done with Bevell, Cable, and Richard.
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