Largent80 wrote:The Seahawks have traded out of the first round more often than not and even though they are picking at #18 this year they almost have to trade to try and recoup a second and third given up in trades.
The running game needs to be redone, so if they get a couple of nice 2nd rounders from dealing #18 it just so happens that this class has a ton of good RB's and a few good OG's.
Isaiah Wynn from Georgia would be a guy I would like to see on the line at LG. And take your pick of a group of good RB's to fill another spot.
Any ideas?
Largent80 wrote:Biggest needs are so obvious.
RB
OL
LB
c_hawkbob wrote:trading down doesn't necessarily mean trading out of the first round this year. We could conceivably trade back twice, fill out those 2nd and third rounds, and still be left with what we're accustomed to as a first round pick.
Oly wrote:My thoughts on the draft:
1. I'd be shocked if the Hawks kept #18 unless someone at the top of the Hawks' draft board fell. I like what y'all are saying about Cleveland as a partner.
2. Top draft needs:
1a. RB
1b. OL
3. TE -- I think Graham is gone, and Schott relies on TEs a lot
4. FS -- I think JS has to be worried about Earl. Not the Cowboys thing as much as how age, injuries, and drive might lead to decline or even retirement. Earl's engine is always revved high, and I could see him burning out quickly. Because FS is so critical for Pete's scheme I think that they would JUMP on anyone they see as Earl's heir-apparent.
5. WR -- especially if they let P-Rich walk
Wild card: pass rushing DT. If they think McDowell can return, this goes lower. I If he can't return (gawd, I'm still pissed at that f'n idiot), I could see this being at the top of Pete's list because I doubt that they make a run at Sheldon Richardson due to cap reasons.
3. If JS lets the expensive FAs leave, as I think he will, he's going to be banking on at least 3 comp picks in the first four rounds next year. If he knows he has those picks next year, I could see him using those picks and trading UP this year, especially in the later rounds, if the right guy falls (like he did with Lockett).
RiverDog wrote:Keep in mind that we have TWO experienced TE's that are free agents. If we let both those guys walk, that would elevate the TE position as an almost critical need when you consider that Schott's offense emphasizes the TE...and my understanding is that the draft is deep with TE's.
NorthHawk wrote:What type of TE does Schottenheimer want - an H-Back, a blocking TE, or a Graham like player?
Largent80 wrote:Also, regardless of how much draft capital we have used or whether it was Cable or not, we simply cannot ignore OL because of investments. Joeckel was exactly that. Subpar player missing games and costing WAY too much. Get Ifedi out of RT immediately and make him a backup.
Either that or get out a 55 gallon drum of Acme Turd Polish and go to work.
But I agree with you about the Joeckel experiment. Can you believe what Cable said about when we signed him?..."If you turn the film on of any guard in football at that spot, he was as good as any of them. And so, why wouldn’t you want that on your team? And I can probably make him better than he’s been. I’m confident. That’s not an arrogant thing. It’s just the way we teach and the way we develop." No frigging wonder we had such a problem finding and developing OL talent if our OL coach is talking that kind of chit.
Largent80 wrote:Supposedly Vannett is a good blocker. So there's one TE.
Lots of good RB to choose from, Michel, Jones, Chubb, Penney (I really like him)....and many more.
Here are some TE's that are in the senior bowl.
Durham Smythe (TE, Notre Dame)
Notre Dame traditionally does a good job developing TE’s and require their guys to do some blocking. Seattle might draft a TE at some point and whoever it is will need to block. Mike Gesicki (Penn State), Tyler Conklin (Central Michigan) and Troy Fumagalli (Wisconsin) are also on the North roster.
Largent80 wrote:I don't see any reason to why Pocic couldn't be RT.
We have Fant as well.
If we could draft Wynn we would be set. I suppose that would depend on if Ifedi can play guard or get someone in FA.
He may have been a first round draft pick but so was Aaron Curry.
Largent80 wrote:Ifedi has tools, but take a look at his mental aspect. He lost it so many times after leading the league in penalties.
It takes confidence to play in this league and after 2 years he doesn't have it. Can Solari get it to him?...It remains to be seen but if we are judging from performance and experience he isn't getting it.
Take a look at his dreadful tape if you need verification. Also, I see no reason as to why Fant can't play guard.
Why can't Fant play guard? LT is less physical than LG?...NO, NO, NO it isn't. I'm not getting your take, ever see a bull rush from the outside?. The guy has so limited experience I don't get how anyone can get a grip on what he can or cannot do.
Largent80 wrote:Like I said before. Who are we...Seahawk fans..... to determine who can play where?
I'm a former O-Lineman all the way through college and I just don't see that certain players can't play in other spots.
We can speculate all day but in the end our speculation is about as good as used toilet paper.
Largent80 wrote:Fans are one thing, coaches and players are another.
We can speculate all day but in the end our speculation is about as good as used toilet paper.
I'm a horse handicapper (and had some really good moments, and equally bad ones), so I use these rationales along with experience to spew my drivel.
My drivel is as good or better than yours....
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