burrrton wrote:Approval rating aside, it's pretty tough to characterize his 1st year as anything but successful (or maybe successful-ish?).
I think he's *sounded* like an idiot more often than not, and his incessant tweeting is beneath the dignity of the office to this voter**, and I have no doubt in his ability to fck things up before all is said and done, but to this point, his results (not aspirations, not character) have been inarguably positive.
**Yeah, I know some want to claim he's "redefining" the office, but still...
RiverDog wrote:
The only thing he's been able to achieve....other than getting our allies pissed off at us and widening the political divide in this country....is the tax bill. He's been very fortunate to have been in the driver's seat during a very good economy that was nothing of his own doing.
We'll see what happens in the mid terms. As a rule, the party out of power does well in them.
Seahawkgal wrote:So who’s doing was the economy based on? It sure sucked before he took office.
c_hawkbob wrote:Exactly one accomplishment that wasn’t effectively “cause I said so”. And way too much negative to list.
RiverDog wrote:The only thing he's been able to achieve....other than getting our allies pissed off at us and widening the political divide in this country....is the tax bill. He's been very fortunate to have been in the driver's seat during a very good economy that was nothing of his own doing.
We'll see what happens in the mid terms. As a rule, the party out of power does well in them.
Why would you think a president has much to do with the economy?
America is so much greater don't ya think??...
8 months from now things are gonna change for him. And not for the better.
The political divide was equally wide or wider during Obama. Do you have any idea how much the right hated Obama? Just because the rhetoric wasn't as bad, doesn't mean the level of hate has changed.
burrrton wrote:Inarguably.
RiverDog wrote:How many protests did you see at Obama's inauguration? Or at Bush 43's, who the libs despised, and like Trump, lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote in the most contentious, longest delayed election result in history? I don't think that there's any question that he's widened the political divide.
Donald Trump is the most divisive POTUS we've ever had, at least in my memory, and that's reflected in his disapproval numbers. He is the most unfavorably viewed candidate/POTUS since they started taking polls on the subject.
The thing I don't like most about Trump is his demeanor and the way he holds himself. The guy is a prick. As you and burrton have pointed out on several occasions, a POTUS does not have as much power to shape event as most people give them credit/blame for. I want my POTUS to be a respectable, dignified person, a leader of people that I can respect. I disliked Slick Willy for much the same reasons that I dislike Trump.
burrrton wrote:Presidents get both too much and too little credit depending on what they do/say and who you ask, but they *can* affect our economy positively and negatively through regulation/deregulation, taxes, tariffs, and so on.
You're going by protests now?
Obama in essence created the environment ripe for Trump or a Trump-like president.
The political divide has been insane since Slick Willy and only getting worse.
You really don't seem to realize how much right wing people hated Obama. I grew so damn tired of the racial crap about Obama from right wingers that I was glad when he left. People I'd known for years who had never previously exhibited racist characteristics started to hate Obama so much that I heard stuff out of their mouth I hadn't heard before. Trump winning stems from that hate.
To sum it up, Trump won the White House because of the political divide created by Obama. He tapped into that racial, liberal, left-leaning angst and anger from 8 years of leftist drivel from the White House and rode it in to DC.
And the next president will ride the political divide created by Trump. It's how you win elections now. Make the previous guy seem like he's horrible, tell the public you're going to change things, get to the White House, engage in lots of stupid fights and get very little done.
You can have the friendliest business regulations and still have a bad economy if the businesses are doing poorly and highly stringent regulation and do well if business is doing well.
Largent80 wrote:The comic relief this dolt has provided is totally inarguable GOLD.
burrrton wrote:Of course- I'm not saying the economy is dependent on their decision making. I'm merely saying they *can* have an effect. Their decisions may or may not have an effect, but they can, right?
burrrton wrote:
Agreed- he's also been *money* for the networks and cable news. Their ratings have never been better, have they?
Largent80 wrote:Colbert is awesome. Add Oliver and Maher to that list. It's priceless comedy.
Largent80 wrote:Ratings say otherwise.
Largent80 wrote:Ratings say otherwise.
burrrton wrote:No they don't. You're free to disagree and insist they're truly ha-ha funny, but clapter generates ratings, too.
burrrton wrote:Approval rating aside, it's pretty tough to characterize his 1st year as anything but successful (or maybe successful-ish?).
I think he's *sounded* like an idiot more often than not, and his incessant tweeting is beneath the dignity of the office to this voter**, and I have no doubt in his ability to fck things up before all is said and done, but to this point, his results (not aspirations, not character) have been inarguably positive.
**Yeah, I know some want to claim he's "redefining" the office, but still...
idhawkman wrote:After Clinton, Obama, Carter and Kennedy you think he's "beneath the dignity of the office?" Wow - just Wow!
idhawkman wrote:After Clinton, Obama, Carter and Kennedy you think he's "beneath the dignity of the office?" Wow - just Wow!
LOL, 75% of the new X-Files episode last night was the making fun of Rump. Which of course is a series and not a liberal based talk show. So there goes that theory. It was hilarious.
burrrton wrote:A Hollywood drama series was making fun of a Republican POTUS (surprise!)... and you found it "hilarious".
You just illustrated my point.
You'll have to admit, Donald Trump is a comedian/cartoonist's dream come true.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I hope he doesn't last beyond four years. I can't take all the whining and general stupidity. The United States mostly runs itself. We just need someone up there to smile, say a few presidential things, keep us out of stupid wars, and let this nation run quite for a few decades.
burrrton wrote:LOL, 75% of the new X-Files episode last night was the making fun of Rump. Which of course is a series and not a liberal based talk show. So there goes that theory. It was hilarious.
No Mr. Dissalusioned. You were describing the shows previously talked about earlier in this thread.
Get used to it, people don't care much for your man.
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