idhawkman wrote:So we give up a mid round 7th and Bennett and get back the last pick of the 5th round (before compensatory picks) and a unheard of WR.
I think we won that trade hands down. No more drama on the sideline.
c_hawkbob wrote:Bennett's replacement just might have a mind of his own and be a bit aggressive too, it's not like those are qualities Pete shies away from ...
RiverDog wrote:And I would argue that a lot of Bennett's offside penalties didn't have anything to do with being overly aggressive. More a lack of concentration and self discipline.
NorthHawk wrote:That's the way I look at it, too, Bob. And to be honest although he had a lot of off sides, he was pretty effective in his play.
Clem7 wrote:https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/4/18/17252800/why-seattle-seahawks-moved-on-michael-bennett-read-meetings-head-coach-pete-carroll
Certainly not the only reason Bennett is gone, but not helpful.
Familiarity breeds contempt. What it really breeds is a lack of respect.
And Bennett is not the only one, both now departed as well as not.
NorthHawk wrote:It's human nature to get complacent when the same things are said over and over again. Even self motivated people can fall into that trap a little.
Sherm was probably right when he said Pete's system probably works best with turning over players after 4 or 5 years because the message gets stale.
Clem7 wrote:https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/4/18/17252800/why-seattle-seahawks-moved-on-michael-bennett-read-meetings-head-coach-pete-carroll
Certainly not the only reason Bennett is gone, but not helpful.
Familiarity breeds contempt. What it really breeds is a lack of respect.
And Bennett is not the only one, both now departed as well as not.
Bennett showed just how selfish he is by not giving two hoots in hell about the education of his younger teammates or about the job his coaches have to do.
burrrton wrote:More appallingly, the jackass knew good and well what Pete was saying led to great success when guys bought into it- yet he was comfortable sh*tting all over it because he'd heard it before.
RiverDog wrote:I have to at least act that I'm interested or else my attitude will spread to the others. Bennett showed just how selfish he is by not giving two hoots in hell about the education of his younger teammates or about the job his coaches have to do.
idhawkman wrote:Now for the bigger problem: Why the hell didn't Carroll put an end to this when it happened? or at least his posiiton coach? Sit him on the bench, make an example of him or something. Allowing that to continue and infect the team is on Richard and Carroll. I hope they have it all rooted out and cleaned up now.
NorthHawk wrote:We don't know what really went on outside of Sundays.
It could be he was tuning out the message in the meetings, but come practice time or in the film room he was great at showing the younger guys what's expected and helping them develop.
We know he had players together to practice and upgrade their pass rush moves in the off season, and that may have been only part of it.
The point I'm making is it's just part of the picture and not the whole thing.
Hawktawk wrote:I cant for the life of me figure out what happened with Bennett, or Sherman for that matter. In 2013 Bennett was one of my favorite players, glib and funny and an absolute disrupter on defense, some saying the only better D end was JJ Watt in 2013-14. I remember him saying how fun it was to play for PC, like being coached by Willie Wonka. I wonder if the debacle on the one in AZ was the tipping point. And Sherman who had always had a tongue in cheek style and a grin on his face to go with his running mouth suddenly seemed angry all the time.
Both Sherm and Bennett talked crap about Wilson, Bennett most recently since leaving saying that "you don't want too many Russell Wilson's on your team but you want 4 or 5 beast modes". Excuse me? He doesn't want the guy with multiple NFL records and who has yet to miss a practice let alone a game in spite of being pummelled playing behind a joke of a line so guys like Bennett and Sherman could cash their fat paychecks and keep the defense together?
Meanwhile he wants 4 or 5 of the guy who for all his greatness mailed it in his last year in town after his injury, bailing for Cali to rehab and abandoning the team that was 4-5 when he left for 7 weeks while he rehabbed then taking the first team reps all week before the Minnesota playoff game before bailing off the team bus after reading the weather report. Russ played the game without gloves and Christine Michael was heroic with just under 80 yards, thoroughly outplaying AP.
One of the great blunders of Carroll's career was starting Lynch against the Panthers and I said so pregame. In short order he miscommunicated with Russ running a crossing pattern on a curl route giving Kuechly a walk in pick to start the first half landslide. He was completely ineffective in the game. But this is what Bennett wanted 4 or 5 of..... Yeah, Im glad hes gone, more so than Sherman who I hate seeing in the division. But hopefully his tank is on empty. I cant root for either of these A Holes ever again.
Aseahawkfan wrote:They lost that second Super Bowl by a margin so thin and a mistake so bad, it's like acid in their stomachs. Something like that would drive me mad if I were a player. It already pisses me off as a fan. I knew after that loss if they didn't get back to a Super Bowl quick, that loss would slowly destroy the team's morale. To be 1 yard from a second Super Bowl ring, only to have the coaches make one of the dumbest calls in history with a Hall of Fame RB and one of the best running QBs in the line has to drive you to madness when you know what could of been. I think after that loss, it's eating at them creating anxiety, unhappiness, and every negative to be magnified. It's why Pete should have seen this earlier and jettisoned Bevell much earlier to start to repair the morale of this team. He waited too long not accepting that the Super Bowl loss wasn't just some loss, it was a mistake of a magnitude unseen in Super Bowl history where the blame is squarely on the coaches. 1 yard from back to back wins, 1 yard with Beastmode in your backfield. That's like swallowing acid to a team like ours with a defense like we had.
RiverDog wrote:I said that within 24 hours of that dreadful loss in SB49, that getting this team to overcome such a loss would be a bigger challenge for Pete Carroll than building a SB champion in the first place. That's why I advocated firing Bevell within the first two weeks of the end of the SB. There aren't many singular mistakes that can cost one their job, but they do exist, and blowing that call qualifies as one of them.
NorthHawk wrote:I thought at the time they would get over it, but RD and others were right. It became a sore that never healed and maybe if they had fired Bevell then it would have had a healing effect.
As far as the call goes, with the Pats Defense in that formation, I didn't have a problem with a pass play, but it should have been one where Wilson rolled out and put pressure on the edge of the Defense and have their players make a decision as to whether to attack Wilson and leave their man or cover their receiver.
The worst thing that would happen is he could then throw it away and go to the next play.
NorthHawk wrote:As far as the call goes, with the Pats Defense in that formation, I didn't have a problem with a pass play, but it should have been one where Wilson rolled out and put pressure on the edge of the Defense and have their players make a decision as to whether to attack Wilson and leave their man or cover their receiver.
The worst thing that would happen is he could then throw it away and go to the next play.
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