0-1 is a disaster.......

[curmudgeon]

Clearly......it is going to get fugly........

[obiken]

Its not a disaster Crum, I had no problem with the effort but its the same old story that we have had for 4 years. No OL, No blocking, very little running game. With Chub the Broncs are a good team. We are average. Ifedi couldn't block his way out of a wet paper bag.

[idhawkman]

The only potential disaster is Baldwin's sprained ACL. Don't know how long it will keep him out.

[curmudgeon]

Its not a disaster Crum, I had no problem with the effort but its the same old story that we have had for 4 years. No OL, No blocking, very little running game. With Chub the Broncs are a good team. We are average. Ifedi couldn't block his way out of a wet paper bag.

OK. So, when does this SOS change?......

[trents]

Hawk defense looked better than I expected until the end of the game when they were gassed because the offense couldn't sustain drives. The Hawk defensive line got consistently good penetration most of the game. And the Hawk D got three turnovers. We haven't seen that for awhile.

[obiken]

Hawk defense looked better than I expected until the end of the game when they were gassed because the offense couldn't sustain drives. The Hawk defensive line got consistently good penetration most of the game. And the Hawk D got three turnovers. We haven't seen that for awhile.

good point T, like I said, I had no problem with our effort, its just the OLine cannot block.

[obiken]

OK. So, when does this SOS change?......

Oh it goes code red, when RW gets hurt, and he will. No way a mobile QB gets sacked 6 times and doesn't sustain an injury, you cannot operate that way.

[trents]

Were all the projected starters on the OL able to play today? Did Fluker play? I didn't get to see most of the first half because of another commitment.

[Aseahawkfan]

O-line was awful and Russell is still not making reads fast enough and getting the ball out. That will mix together for yet another year of pressure.

[Hawktawk]

God where to start That game and our team was more bipolar than I am. Our new OC morphs into bevell in crucial situations like throwing on 3rd and inches when I think we actually lost yardage on maybe 1 or 2 of the rare run plays. And of course RW misses a wide open guy on the play. Russ was harassed all day but threw some ugly misses to go with some beautiful dimes.
One word. Dissley. Nice draft pick Schneid

Carson leaps over a guy and generally looked terrific other than getting stripped by a HOF lock including the screen that was called back on a hold but spends half the day on the bench watching Penney play not as well. Always compete is a joke because Carson is obviously a man among boys and needs to be fed the ball 25 times a game.Carson 7 carries for 51 yards, 7.1 YPC. Penney 7 carries for 9 yards, 1.1 YPC. Sometimes I wonder if these coaches are even watching the game

Note to Schottenheimer. RUN THE BALL!!!! I know its not sexy but when a team has its ears pinned back and has Von Miller you have to keep them honest. 2nd and 9 is better than Russ running 20 yards the wrong way twice trying to be cute and pass when you haven't bothered to establish the run.

The D... WTF feast or famine especially in the first half. 3 picks but seemingly 50 chunk plays, no ability to tackle, guys so wide open nobody else was in the TV screen. Shaqueem...Love the kid but he's not ready and should have been yanked much sooner. HIs handicap was obvious on the whiff on Thomas getting Denver off the goal line.He was single handedly responsible for about 75 yards in total first half offense and a TD.
Hurry back KJ. Hard to evaluate the D without him.

Love the new punter but if the D cant get a stop and lets a Case Keenum team go 95 yards anyway it was a wasted draft pick.

On the balance 0-1 is a disaster Been beating that dead bloated carcass for about 13 years since the Hawks went 0-2 then ripped off 13 of 14 wins and wound up in SB XL. Not sure if this team can do that but Ill see the glass as half full for now. That is all

[burrrton]

The Hawk defensive line got consistently good penetration most of the game.

I think you and I were watching a different game.

[RiverDog]

I pretty much agree with Hawktalk's analysis. It's the same old story. Lots of pressure on our QB, not enough on our opposition's hurler. A missed FG. Horrible 3rd down conversion ratio (2-12). One rushing first down. Even Ifedi gave us a reminder of seasons past by jumping offsides.

Dissly looks great in the first half, then he disappears in the 2nd. Carson looks to be twice the RB that Penny is, and needs to be getting more carries. Marshall looked great outside the ticky tack offensive PI he got called for.

After watching the SNF game last night and seeing what Khalil Mack can do to an opposition, I sure the hell hope that they keep a TE in more on passing plays than they did against the Broncos. Ifedi is getting spun around like a turnstile.

This was a winnable game, of the kind we're going to have to win if we are to consider ourselves playoff contenders. We have our work cut out for us even if we want to get back to the .500ish quality of last year's squad.

[obiken]

That's it Riv. I however never expected much of a pass rush this year. In fact, agree or not, I think we lost a lot when Chris Clemens and Red Bryant left our rotation. In then the end it comes down to blocking, we were supposed to be more of a running team to keep people like Mack and Miller half way honest. But no, its the same old story like you said, 3rd and 1 RW drops back and misses a wide open cant remember his name. A lot of you were sold out on Penny, I was sold out to Royce Freeman, we were all wrong. I miss Curt Warner's rookie season! This was a close game, and if its close you should find a way to win, we didn't. It looks like we can beat the Cards 2X, and the Niners once, the Rams, we'll see!

PS HT didnt write post, it was Treatise!!

[idhawkman]

I was disappointed that Red was let go.

I hope the coaching staff can clean up a few things.

1. I don't like having Baldwin and Lockett starting when they haven't played with RW or the starters in the preseason. As Andrew Luck put it, "too much game rust."
2. ET had a little game rust letting that deep crossing route come behind him for the TD. That should be easy to clean up.
3. Not much to say that hasn't been said about Ifedi. Von is one of the best but next week he gets Mack. Not much difference in my mind. Another week of hell for Ifedi.
4. Sweezy had a bad game. Not sure what the heck that is about but hopefully (and I can't believe I am saying this) Fluker is ready to go next week.
5. We need KJ to get healthy quick.
6. I think we are a bit thin at CB. What is wrong with Thorpe?
7. RW needs to get back intot he "Preparation" mode and get his head right. He should know not to turn back into Von Miller and just throw the ball away. Next week same thing with Mack. If he starts rolling left, don't turn back - throw it away.

[RiverDog]

7. RW needs to get back intot he "Preparation" mode and get his head right. He should know not to turn back into Von Miller and just throw the ball away. Next week same thing with Mack. If he starts rolling left, don't turn back - throw it away.

I said the same thing when Miller nailed Russell for a huge loss. Russell has had so much success with that reverse spin of his that he's fallen in love with it and over uses it. As an old wise man once told me, an overused strength becomes a weakness, and that certainly fits with Russell and his scrambling. He should know by now that if Miller or some other stud pass rusher like Mack lines up on his right with Ifedi and no help that if he rolls to his left, he's going to have some very vigorous pursuit.

[Uppercut]

Too much Hollywood for RW

he needs to concentrate on his profession

RW stock price probably dropped 10 mil yesterday and I would rank him about #13 in the NFL for QB's at this point

In the meantime Arron Rodgers just does it again

Bears will not be any cakewalk

[c_hawkbob]

Wilson's value isn't a cent less today than it was yesterday, he played a decent game in a hostile environment and while he kept them in the game his team came up short in the end, as the odds makers expected.

[RiverDog]

Wilson's value isn't a cent less today than it was yesterday, he played a decent game in a hostile environment and while he kept them in the game his team came up short in the end, as the odds makers expected.

Although Russell has to accept his share of responsibility, his play wasn't the root cause of the loss. After all, we still managed to put up 24 points, which includes another failure to put the ball between the uprights. IMO the root cause of Sunday's loss was our failure to stop Denver's running game.

[c_hawkbob]

I wasn't talking about assigning blame for the loss, I was responding to the ridiculous contention that it somehow made Russ $10M less valuable.

If you want to assign blame though, Russ failing to unload the ball quicker in the face of a pass rush we couldn't seem to slow down certainly played it's part.

[idhawkman]

AS I was rewatching the game today, there's a play in the 2nd quarter about 1/2 way through that exemplifies RWs failure to throw the ball quickly. It was the play where Ifedi totally whiffed on Von Miller and Von got the sack. The ball should have been gone to either the TE or BMarshall by the time Von got to RW. Either one would have had a 1st down and we would have sustained the drive but instead we ended up kicking the FG. I really have no idea what RW was looking for other than trying to get a bigger play to the other side of the field.

[RiverDog]

I wasn't talking about assigning blame for the loss, I was responding to the ridiculous contention that it somehow made Russ $10M less valuable.

If you want to assign blame though, Russ failing to unload the ball quicker in the face of a pass rush we couldn't seem to slow down certainly played it's part.

I was agreeing with you, big guy. I was only qualifying my remark about Russell's performance by noting that he has to share some responsibility for the loss.

[Hawk Sista]

It’s a disaster that I didn’t start the disaster thread. Anyone remember the details of the original? As I recall, it was 2-2 is a disaster before we went 13-3 and won our first NFC championship. Anyone remember who started it? Am I right?

[burrrton]

It’s a disaster that I didn’t start the disaster thread. Anyone remember the details of the original? As I recall, it was 2-2 is a disaster before we went 13-3 and won our first NFC championship. Anyone remember who started it? Am I right?

You are indeed!