Cmon offense

[Hawktawk]

Its our achilles heel. Russ is going through one of his most inaccurate stretches I can remember missing wildly and passing up open guys to throw into coverage. Fortunately he didn't throw it to the other guys.But the mans arm is off.

The 4th quarter was nice. I hope that's what we see going forward. We have played a series of pretty salty defenses and came out winners so I guess lace em up for another one this saturday. Collins Run was nice. Good to see we may have another option if needed.

[RiverDog]

Its our achilles heel. Russ is going through one of his most inaccurate stretches I can remember missing wildly and passing up open guys to throw into coverage. Fortunately he didn't throw it to the other guys.But the mans arm is off.

The 4th quarter was nice. I hope that's what we see going forward. We have played a series of pretty salty defenses and came out winners so I guess lace em up for another one this saturday. Collins Run was nice. Good to see we may have another option if needed.

There's no doubt about it. Russell has been off his game for quite some time. He hasn't been losing the games for us by turning the ball over, but he's definitely not playing to his capabilities. You can rationalize it all you like by noting his 4th quarter performances or other times he's snapped out of it, but we're going to need more than just a quarter or two of production out of the offense when we start going up against teams like the Packers, Bucs, and Saints that have high power offenses led by HOF quarterbacks.

Russ might be trying to force the ball into Metcalf too much. It's hard to tell as we can't see the entire field and what options he had, but yesterday he targeted him 9 times and got just 3 completions out of it.

[Klanky]

I think it’s a combo of things, Russ being off and block inconsistent and play calling/ scheming to get metcalf more open, Lockett is shiftier and able to ad lib and find openings if it wasn’t for Lockett Seahawks lose bad yesterday, yes the offense is frustrating to watch, it’s like jekel and Hyde so not sure how they can fix it now, to be just more consistent, it just seems like someone is controlling a switch, cause they look either really good or really bad, and are now because of it, playing with fire because there isn’t a “ next “ week to get on track now that playoffs have started .... frustrating to watch cause we’ve had many years to see what they can be like, and what Russ can be but something is off....

[mykc14]

I do think we are out of sync offensively. I also think RW is so turnover averse right now that he's not willing to take ANY chances. You don't go from throwing the most accurate deep balls in the league to missing guys by multiple yards on your long throws. Obviously I can't say this is the case for sure but it certainly feels like it. He had DK on a deeper tight throw that he airmailed and had Lockette wide open on a deep ball that he threw way outside, similar to what he did to DK last week. He isn't taking any chances. I also don't think the OL looks great. Part of that is injuries and part of it is RW holding onto the ball longer because he doesn't want to make a mistake. I imagine we'll get more of the same in the playoffs. We play, especially in the first half, to not lose the game. Very little risk in our offense. This has been Pete's MO and it has been successful, but it has also led to us falling behind big in almost every one of our playoff losses.

[RiverDog]

I do think we are out of sync offensively. I also think RW is so turnover averse right now that he's not willing to take ANY chances. You don't go from throwing the most accurate deep balls in the league to missing guys by multiple yards on your long throws. Obviously I can't say this is the case for sure but it certainly feels like it. He had DK on a deeper tight throw that he airmailed and had Lockette wide open on a deep ball that he threw way outside, similar to what he did to DK last week. He isn't taking any chances. I also don't think the OL looks great. Part of that is injuries and part of it is RW holding onto the ball longer because he doesn't want to make a mistake. I imagine we'll get more of the same in the playoffs. We play, especially in the first half, to not lose the game. Very little risk in our offense. This has been Pete's MO and it has been successful, but it has also led to us falling behind big in almost every one of our playoff losses.

I think that's a good part of it as Russell is missing long on vertical routes a lot more than he normally does. But he's also throwing behind his receivers, not hitting them in stride on crossing routes. He did it at least twice yesterday, once to Metcalf and another to Dissley.

[mykc14]

But he's also throwing behind his receivers, not hitting them in stride on crossing routes. He did it at least twice yesterday, once to Metcalf and another to Dissley.

The one to Dissley was tipped... The deep slant to Metcalf was behind him. Whatever is going on with RW he needs to fix it quickly and I don't see him doing that if he is so focused on not throwing an INT...

[RiverDog]

But he's also throwing behind his receivers, not hitting them in stride on crossing routes. He did it at least twice yesterday, once to Metcalf and another to Dissley.

The one to Dissley was tipped... The deep slant to Metcalf was behind him. Whatever is going on with RW he needs to fix it quickly and I don't see him doing that if he is so focused on not throwing an INT...

You might be right on the pass to Dissley. The one to Metcalf that I was referring to wasn't a deep slant, it was a mid range pass, 10-15 yards, with Metcalf running right to left. I'd have to go back and re-watch it to be more specific. There were 6 incompletions thrown in Metcalf's direction.

I do agree with you that it's very possible that Russell is being overly cautious about turning the ball over.

[trents]

The crispness and pace of execution picked up noticeable in the 4th quarter yesterday when the Hawks were behind. We've seen that same pattern over and over. And that mainly falls on the QB IMO since he is the field general. There seems to be a "fire in the belly" lacking there, a complacency maybe even that disappears when things get desperate.

[Rambo2014]

Wilson will not be able to sleep all week with the thoughts of Donald the human wrecking ball in his mind...

The rubber meets the road on Saturday

[mykc14]

The one to Metcalf that I was referring to wasn't a deep slant, it was a mid range pass, 10-15 yards, with Metcalf running right to left. I'd have to go back and re-watch it to be more specific. There were 6 incompletions thrown in Metcalf's direction.

I do agree with you that it's very possible that Russell is being overly cautious about turning the ball over.

If it was on 3rd down in niner territory we are probably thinking of the same play, but at any rate I agree that it was behind him.

[TriCitySam]

Agreed RW is missing guys, whether it is being overly careful, who knows. They are 12-0 when they are even or + in the TO
Department. We've seen a lot of ugly wins over the past decade - rare when they look shiny. But, they have played some really good defenses recently and they are 12-4. So we shouldn't be complaining much.

[RiverDog]

Agreed RW is missing guys, whether it is being overly careful, who knows. They are 12-0 when they are even or + in the TO
Department. We've seen a lot of ugly wins over the past decade - rare when they look shiny. But, they have played some really good defenses recently and they are 12-4. So we shouldn't be complaining much.

And we'll be playing some tough defenses in the playoffs. The Rams are the #1 ranked defense, WFT #2, Saints #4, Bucs #6, Packers #9, and the Bears #11.

No one is complaining about our results, but no one should be satisfied with our performance, either. The offense is going to need to play better than they have been lately if we are to achieve our ultimate goal of winning a Lombardi.

[TriCitySam]

I disagree that we should be unhappy with our offense. This is a style of play that is proven. The story on RW’s “misses” was that they were basically throw-always. No Int’s. Period. You’re not gonna get an Andy Reid offense, and to expect such is unrealistic. Seahawk ball has been this way for a decade. 26 and a good D wins.

I get it, they can be frustrating to watch. But Pete is very clear, we’re not gonna turn it over and we are gonna have more balance.

[obiken]

I agree with you guys, its time to admit that RW is off, and it started with the pounding he took against the Bills, and the Cards.

[trents]

I agree with you guys, its time to admit that RW is off, and it started with the pounding he took against the Bills, and the Cards.

Don't forget the Giants game. Their D was ferocious that day.

[RiverDog]

I agree with you guys, its time to admit that RW is off, and it started with the pounding he took against the Bills, and the Cards.

It started with the first Cards game. After running out to a 5-0 record and in which Russell posted passer ratings of 100+, Russell threw 3 picks and his rating dipped to 84.4 in an overtime loss to the Cards. He rebounded in his second game, vs. the Niners, then it dipped below 100 again in losses to the Bills and Rams.

In contrast to his 5 straight 100+ passer ratings to start the season, Russell has had sub 100 ratings in 4 of our last 5 games, with the only 100+ effort coming in our blowout win vs. the Jets. For whatever reason, whether it be that offenses around the league were tearing it up early in the year or that we've faced better defenses in the past 5 games, his numbers have been off.

[NorthHawk]

For some reason this year Defenses were not playing well early in the year but have come on strong since.
It's odd because it's usually the Offenses that take a while to get it together. Keep in mind we aren't a prolific
Offense normally, and our style isn't usually like it was early so when the Defenses started to play better our
Offense came back to earth. Having said that I do think something is different with Wilson, but I'm not sure
what it is. Maybe the margins of error are smaller or with fewer games they become more important so he's
less likely to take chances like he did early in the year.

[RiverDog]

For some reason this year Defenses were not playing well early in the year but have come on strong since.
It's odd because it's usually the Offenses that take a while to get it together. Keep in mind we aren't a prolific
Offense normally, and our style isn't usually like it was early so when the Defenses started to play better our
Offense came back to earth. Having said that I do think something is different with Wilson, but I'm not sure
what it is. Maybe the margins of error are smaller or with fewer games they become more important so he's
less likely to take chances like he did early in the year.

I agree. It's weird, as conventional wisdom always said that the offense lags behind the defense early in the season because it is more complex and requires more familiarity. You would think that with no preseason that it would have taken a month for the offenses to catch up with defenses, but this year was just the opposite.

Some of our offensive performances can be attributed to how our schedule broke. The Falcons, Cowboys, Vikings, and Dolphins, 4 of the first 5 games where our offense blew the doors off, are all ranked in the bottom 12 of defenses. The opposite is true for the back half of our schedule when our offense sputtered, with the Rams, WFT, Niners, and Giants, 4 of our last 5 opponents, all having defenses ranked in the top 12.

[Klanky]

Just a conspiracy, but Russ’ issues and dip in play seems to kind of coincide with not getting brown, and the bucs signing him... end of oct.- first of nov... I know it’s a stretch to say, but he really wanted him, and seemed to overall struggle since......

[Hawktawk]

Wilson will not be able to sleep all week with the thoughts of Donald the human wrecking ball in his mind...

The rubber meets the road on Saturday

Yeah the rubber on the seahawks tires is gonna give you a road rash Ramblo TTY Saturday. Oh no we wont cause you dont eat crow.

[Hawktawk]

I disagree that we should be unhappy with our offense. This is a style of play that is proven. The story on RW’s “misses” was that they were basically throw-always. No Int’s. Period. You’re not gonna get an Andy Reid offense, and to expect such is unrealistic. Seahawk ball has been this way for a decade. 26 and a good D wins.

I get it, they can be frustrating to watch. But Pete is very clear, we’re not gonna turn it over and we are gonna have more balance.

I didn't see a lot of throwaways. I saw misses to wide open guys. Metcalf deep is open if he's covered and Russ has wildly overthrown him 2 weeks in a row in one on one situations.He overthrew Lockett by a mile. He threw it behind a wide open Metcalf. Technically its catchable but DKs hands are a work in progress and it just handcuffed him. I saw him ignore guys 8-10 yards downfield to try to launch a missile deep. I kind of agree with the sentiments about him being worried about ints. He had 3 tipped balls and its actually quite rare for Russ to have tipped balls. IMO he's not looking off like he is capable. It seems almost every time hes pulling it down on first reads, second.

I am in no way ragging on Russ and to be fair he's really hurt some team with his legs. He's been good enough to win 4 in a row and 12 overall. The 4th quarter he was sharp and maybe its a wake up call for the offense. If Adams is out it changes the defense and 20 points aint gonna cut it other than maybe these Rams.

[obiken]

Most experts say we lose against the Rams tomorrow, I am a Hawks Fans and those on this site know I am not an expert, but I agree. RW has been sacked 16 times in 3 Ram games. He has with them, a QBR of 74. Sorry, our people are all back, and our offense is a mess. Its a C- at best. They take away DK and lock him out, they shutdown Running game, and RW runs for his life. We played our best game against them 2 weeks ago, and barely won. He has been sacked 47 times this year, and yet people on this site still say our Offensive line is good? What's your evidence?

[RiverDog]

Most experts say we lose against the Rams tomorrow, I am a Hawks Fans and those on this site know I am not an expert, but I agree. RW has been sacked 16 times in 3 Ram games. He has with them, a QBR of 74. Sorry, our people are all back, and our offense is a mess. Its a C- at best. They take away DK and lock him out, they shutdown Running game, and RW runs for his life. We played our best game against them 2 weeks ago, and barely won. He has been sacked 47 times this year, and yet people on this site still say our Offensive line is good? What's your evidence?

Most experts say we lose vs. the Rams? We're 3-4.5 point favorites. Most of the "experts" I've seen are picking us. Goff is injured and may not start, and even if he does, he's a Jeykl and Hyde. And if he doesn't start, here's some "evidence" for you:

Since 2002, quarterbacks making their first playoff starter vs. quarterbacks who are not are 13-32-1 ATS (against the spread) and 15-31 (overall).

[Rambo2014]

You fellas had a pleasant little season but its over by this time tomorrow so what ya going to do?

One thing about losing a playoff game on Saturday you can go golf on Sunday