Aseahawkfan wrote:That means we will likely get the following:
1. 2k stimulus checks.
2. Enhanced unemployment.
3. Return to Obamacare with Biden modifications.
4. Student loan forgiveness.
5. Legalized marijuana.
6. A big push for electric vehicles and alternative energy.
7. Increased money printing to further erode the value of the dollar.
8. Increased taxes on corporations and wealthy folk.
9. A better coordinated plan to deal with COVID supported by Congress.
Should be an interesting time. Democrats have all the balls in their court. Their time to shine. Let's see if they can step up and make it happen.
Adjust your investments as needed.
It is pretty rare for one party to hold all the government offices, when you get that you have to move fast and furious to push through legislation you want as you can lose your majority within a few years.
NorthHawk wrote:It's odd that more of a President's agenda isn't completed most of the time (at least the last few times when all 3 parts are held by one party). Obama didn't get all he wanted done before McConnell blocked everything, Trump didn't get everything done he wanted, but he got more than Obama, so it seems they have to pick and choose what they really consider important and concentrate on those smaller or perhaps fewer things.
RiverDog wrote:
The real story will happen after the 2022 mid terms. The R's are at a disadvantage in the Senate as they have more seats to defend. But the Dems did poorly in the down ballot elections in 2020 and have just an 11 seat majority, so they could easily lose the House.
Hawktawk wrote:Dems did excellent down ballot Tuesday. I think the demographic has changed in the last 2 months . 25 percent of republicans trust the results . How did they like idiot and his supporters dragging America through this . I think we know . For whatever reason Dems outperformed Biden in the state after losing by 90 k votes in the general .
I think this is gonna hurt the party a long time .
NorthHawk wrote:It's odd that more of a President's agenda isn't completed most of the time (at least the last few times when all 3 parts are held by one party). Obama didn't get all he wanted done before
McConnell blocked everything, Trump didn't get everything done he wanted, but he got more than Obama, so it seems they have to pick and choose what they really consider important
and concentrate on those smaller or perhaps fewer things.
Hawktawk wrote:Dems did excellent down ballot Tuesday. I think the demographic has changed in the last 2 months . 25 percent of republicans trust the results . How did they like idiot and his supporters dragging America through this . I think we know . For whatever reason Dems outperformed Biden in the state after losing by 90 k votes in the general .
I think this is gonna hurt the party a long time .
Aseahawkfan wrote:I always hear this garbage and it's never true. People forget stuff quickly. Heard the same thing about Clinton, not true. Heard it about Bush Jr. and the wars. Probably was even said about Obama and Obamacare. People forget and forget quickly. They get pissed off at the next person in office when they do things they don't like. Round and round again.
I bet anyone who was alive during Nixon probably heard this a ton of as well, yet the Republican Party recovered from Nixon because people forget.
People are very good at forgetting and moving on as a group.
Hawktawk wrote:Carter was a weak candidate and a weak president.
Hawktawk wrote:There's another HUGE difference between watergate and now. In 74 when the facts were known the R party and the american people turned on Nixon and forced his resignation.That Ford was punished for his pardon says how far we've gone off the deep end now.
RiverDog wrote:Nixon resigned in August of '74. The Republicans took a beating in the midterms a few months later, but 2 years later in '76, Ford nearly beat Carter and probably would have had he not pardoned Nixon. By 1980, Reagan won by a landslide, the R's regained control of the Senate for the first time in 20 some years, and narrowed their deficit in the House. So at least in this instance, the voters memory didn't last very long.
But I'm going to stay out of the prediction business. I learned my lesson this past fall.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I think we've all seen this back and forth long enough. People tend to move back and forth depending on the issue and the time for a variety of reasons. What might be a key issue now may not be by the next election. As long as we don't see the self-deluded, narcissistic loon back in the White House, then we will hopefully be ok.
And even though people won't give you credit, you were right. This loon believes with absolutely certainty the election was stolen from him. He hasn't changed his tune or his message once. That is a sign of the absolute conviction he has that his evidence is right and the rest of the world wrong. I think his mind snapped more than usual when he lost such a close election that he seemed to be winning before the mail in ballots were counted. Even though anyone with sense knew that the Democrats had set up mail in voting as a precaution to crowding the voting stations and that Trump's own supporters in other states prevented those ballots from being counted early, thus mail in ballots were likely to be highly in favor of Democrats because Trump himself poisoned the well against mail in voting. He screwed himself. He's too self-deluded and narcissistic to admit it.
Even I watching this election unfold with the tight races in PA, WI, and the like knew the mail in ballots were going to cost him and that he set up the poisonous idea of not using in mail in ballots. If he has pushed Republicans to use all means to vote including mail in, he probably could have clawed more votes from the mail in ballots if he hadn't poisoned the well against mail in voting making Republican voters afraid to use mail in ballots, while many were still afraid to go to crowded polling places.
The guy did so much to screw himself this election that I'm still surprised he almost won.
What was it:
AZ: 11000 votes 11 electoral votes
GA: 12000 votes 16 electoral votes
MI: 155,000 votes 16 electoral votes
PA: 81,0000 votes 20 electoral votes
He lost by about 100,000 to 180,000 votes depending on the states that flipped. About the same margin he won by last time.
CA was a 5 million popular vote advantage by itself. They are main reason I would hate a move to a popular vote. When one state has that much influence over the popular vote, you should be glad we use the electoral college.
The biggest Democratic supporter the Dems have to thank is COVID19 and Trump's terrible handling of it. If the economy had been trucking along at 3% unemployment and people partying making money in the stock market, we would have had four more years of this clown.
What a fitting end to the chaos of Trump. I hope this slams the door on this guy hard with or without impeachment. But who knows, America is crazy town right now.
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