Percy Out of Bounds

[RiverDog]

How in the hell did the NFL miss that one? Could they not see what anyone with a 5" wide cell phone could see? It was a scoring play, for crying out loud, and as such, is supposed to be automatically reviewed. As close as Harvin was to the sidelines, the conversion attempt should have been delayed until they could have gotten a good look at it. WTF are they doing in that high tech control center?

I'm glad we benefited from it, but had we won that game, the entire nation would have been on our case. Inexcusable.

[Hawk Sista]

I saw the official pointing back like he stepped out of bounds and I thought he did. We were mo I g the ball anyway and would've likely scored a TD. We were in FG range. The announcers were acting like all 51 yards would have had to come back.

Still, I saw he stepped out & could not figure it out. One good thing about losing - we don't have to hear about how we cheated.

[c_hawkbob]

IMO the story is about a breakdown of their new replay system more so than any effect on the game. The whole having someone in NY at a replay command center was suppose to avoid exactly this circumstance.

[FolkCrusader]

Not to disagree, but I was fairly busy when the play occurred and I only saw the camera angle from the rear. Although it appeared very close, it did not appear conclusive to me. Since then I think I have seen a different angle and about 20 people (including you all) have told me he was clearly out.

Keep in mind the NFL "only" views the home broadcast replay so we don't really know what they saw. I know from the one angle I saw I would have stopped play and had it evaluated. Even though I saw it as inconclusive it was very, very close and should have been looked at.

The other thing I found interesting is that the announcer that was so sure he was out was the same guy that didn't understand why an incomplete catch at the goal line wouldn't be evaluated as a rushing touchdown too. What an idiot.

Anyway, glad to hear from you all that there was really no discrepancy. I agree in the end it made little difference in the game.

[RiverDog]

I'm curious as to what the NFL's explanation is. Did the crew on the field commence with the extra point too soon so as to allow for the replay control center to get a look at it or did the control center look at it and incorrectly determine that he was in bounds? As a rule, they usually come out and say that the "previous play is being reviewed", and Harvin was so close that you would think that the crew on the field would have delayed the XP attempt even if they weren't buzzed.

[FolkCrusader]

I'm curious as to what the NFL's explanation is. Did the crew on the field commence with the extra point too soon so as to allow for the replay control center to get a look at it or did the control center look at it and incorrectly determine that he was in bounds? As a rule, they usually come out and say that the "previous play is being reviewed", and Harvin was so close that you would think that the crew on the field would have delayed the XP attempt even if they weren't buzzed.

As I read the report they said it was "incorrectly confirmed". So the score was confirmed, but they determined they made a mistake. That is how I read it anyway.

“All scoring plays are reviewed by the instant replay official, in conjunction with the NFL officiating staff in New York, and are not subject to a coach’s challenge. Following the first quarter touchdown run by Percy Harvin, the game should have been stopped for a replay review, either by the replay official or by the officiating staff in New York,” NFL spokesman Michael Signora wrote in an email to PFT. “The touchdown was incorrectly confirmed, and as a result, the game was not stopped. Had the game been stopped for a replay review, the touchdown would have been reversed because Harvin stepped out of bounds at the San Diego 21-yard line.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... confirmed/

[Anthony]

The weird part is had they called it right we might have been better off as that would have given the defense more time to rest. In the long run it might have helped SD more than us.

[Hawktawk]

It would have been 1st down on their 21. It was a horrible gaffe by the replay crew but it might have had little to no impact on the game either way.

[c_hawkbob]

They won, it had zero impact.

[RiverDog]

As I read the report they said it was "incorrectly confirmed". So the score was confirmed, but they determined they made a mistake. That is how I read it anyway.

“All scoring plays are reviewed by the instant replay official, in conjunction with the NFL officiating staff in New York, and are not subject to a coach’s challenge. Following the first quarter touchdown run by Percy Harvin, the game should have been stopped for a replay review, either by the replay official or by the officiating staff in New York,” NFL spokesman Michael Signora wrote in an email to PFT. “The touchdown was incorrectly confirmed, and as a result, the game was not stopped. Had the game been stopped for a replay review, the touchdown would have been reversed because Harvin stepped out of bounds at the San Diego 21-yard line.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... confirmed/

Thanks for the info, FC. I know one of the things they are trying to do is to speed up the review process so that it doesn't interrupt the flow of the game, which was one of the reasons they established a control center, a motivation that I heartily endorse. One of the failings that killed the original instant replay was that it seemed like an eternity for them to come to a conclusion only to have a ref come to the center of the field and announce "after further review, the play stands as called."

[Zorn76]

It was a blatant error by both the side judge and the crew in N.Y.

[obiken]

So what we have the IRONCLAD review system in place and they blew it period. I don't think it would have mattered if we had won.

[Hawktawk]

Did anyone catch the video showing the command center for replay? What a clusterf##k. 100s of TVs and dozens of people running around. No wonder they blew it. its another one of Goodys brainchildren. Hes like a politician, make the bureaucracy bigger and more cumbersome and expect it to work better.

What a clown. The league survives and thrives in spite of him. I'm amazed all the owners cant see it. Condoleeza Rice now please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RiverDog]

Did anyone catch the video showing the command center for replay? What a clusterf##k. 100s of TVs and dozens of people running around. No wonder they blew it. its another one of Goodys brainchildren. Hes like a politician, make the bureaucracy bigger and more cumbersome and expect it to work better.

What a clown. The league survives and thrives in spite of him. I'm amazed all the owners cant see it. Condoleeza Rice now please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like the concept. They have direct and instant communication with the refs on the field, which should speed up the review process considerably. Everyone wants to eliminate bad and missed calls, but no one wants to sit around for an eternity waiting for a judgment from some sort of God to come down from the press box. It interrupts the flow of the game. After an interception, an offense should be able to rush out on the field and catch the defense napping while they're still in shock. Constantly running to the sidelines and going under the hood eliminates this part of the game and makes it about as interesting as watching a chess match.

We need to give them a chance to work this out. At least the mistake came in Week 2 and on a play which ultimately did not affect the outcome of the game.