Michael Bennett on Seattle discount: 'This isn't Costco'

[HumanCockroach]

Ok normally I wouldn't say this as it will be construed as "trollish", but are there really 10+ replies about Bennett's comnent? What happened to the whole "He was just being honest" or "But it's TRUE" line of thought? LolI guess the truth does piss people off when it's phrased a certain way.

I actually liked what Bennett said. He said he has played the last 2 yrs trying to prove himself, and now he has. Also said that he did not give the Seahawks a discount when he played, but gave 100%. I thought that was a very intelligent insight. I think he could be replaced though with a similar vet, maybe Peppers? Not sure if Raji fits the mold (although he may for a 4-3), but I wonder who takes a look at him.

No, it's construed as trollish, because no one here has a problem with what he said, nor with him attempting to make as much money as possible. After browsing this thread I've seen everything from he's a funny guy, we would like him back but he has to do what he can to get as much money as possible, and almost everyone said they have no problem with what he said. Hence you are doing exactly what you are worried you might have your comments construed as.

Basically you are saying that this group of fans have an issue with something they have made clear they don't.

[4XPIPS]

Well according to this post he wants 10 mil a year. I just don't see us paying a "rotational d-lineman" that much loot. He is part of a committee, and quite frankly he is darn good and I would love to keep him, but at the end of the day I say let him make his 10 mil somewhere else and get fresh legs in there.

http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=292&sid=2457211

All of our D-linemen are rotational.

Exactly my point, we don't run a traditional D Line like most teams, full time D Lineman like Suh/Ware/Watt are out there pretty much all reps and get big contracts. I don't blame Bennett for wanting more than 5 mil, but trying to separate himself from the others that was a pure collective effort isn't going to help him stay. I wouldn't be surprised to see other lesser name D Line on our roster get more PT and fill in at a lesser price like a Michael Brooks who played in the Falcons Game.

[RiverDog]

The other thing that will benefit us in the FA market for DE's is our venue/12th man advantage and our Legion of Boom, plus unlike the Ravens a year ago, we'll in all likelihood be the favorite to return to the SB. Where else would a defensive end want to go to showcase his talent?

[HumanCockroach]

If he goes, he goes, sure I want him to return, that said I am excited to see what a player like Mayowa can do ( he does remind me of Bennett a little bit) as well as what can and will be brought in by the front office. I think some people expected fans to be up in arms about what he said, or how he feels, just simply isn't the case. Most understand it is a business, and as such players will make the best business decision for them. It does not mean they simply jump at the most dollars, no matter how some want or try so desperately to paint it, but they aren't going to pass up tens of millions of dollars. Players know the atmosphere in this locker room and this training facility, I am sure some will attempt to paint it as just another location, but it isn't, and a player like Bennett understands that far better than any fan could.

At the end of the day, the money PLUS everything else will be factored into the choice he makes, and it will be the right decision for him. No one can knock him for that choice one way or another.

[I-5]

All things being equal, clearly Bennett wants to be here. The Costco line means nothing, other than he expects the Seahawks to be competitive if they want to keep him, which is a big huge 'DUH'. I can't think of a smarter GM than Schneider to handle it exactly the right way, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

[Futureite]

Ok normally I wouldn't say this as it will be construed as "trollish", but are there really 10+ replies about Bennett's comnent? What happened to the whole "He was just being honest" or "But it's TRUE" line of thought? LolI guess the truth does piss people off when it's phrased a certain way.

I don't get what your point is. Are you attempting to make a statement about how much we are posting on a subject? I didn't know that there was a rule on this forum that was privy only to a 49er fan as to how many posts a topic should merit. It appears that you didn't read any of the comments. The vast majority, probably all if my memory serves from actually having read the comments, were that Bennett SHOULD get ask for his payday. To a member here it seems we would all think he deserves it and just about all of us would bear no grudge if he walked if he was offered a better deal. A couple of us commented that what he said rubbed us the wrong way, myself included, but that would be us being honest.

So yes, how else would your comment be construed but as trollish?

I read all of the comments. No doubt it rubbed you the wrong way and other people too in your fanbase (read NFL.Com or ESPN.Com re: posted to Bennet's comment). Anytime someone uses hyperbole to make a point like Bennett did, they are trying to elicit an emotional reaction. This is common sense. If it meant nothing, no one would have responded to give their opposing view .

But really, I was making a joke. I think you read way too much into it.

[Eaglehawk]

All things being equal, clearly Bennett wants to be here. The Costco line means nothing, other than he expects the Seahawks to be competitive if they want to keep him, which is a big huge 'DUH'. I can't think of a smarter GM than Schneider to handle it exactly the right way, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

In my heart I feel what you just said and agree.
But my head tells me anything can happen.

Remember Hutch? Different situation of course, but when people say the NFL is a business they ain't lying.

Hope it works out as you said!

[Zorn76]

If we let him go, how do we replace the pressure up the middle?
It's something we have needed for a few years now and considering he can also be effective on the edge, it's a lot of ability to have to replace.
I just hope they can come to an agreement that works for him and the team.

The Draft.

And this upcoming one is key, because it gives the Seahawks the opportunity to build for the future while keeping this current football machine rolling for 2014. All drafts are important, obviously, but this is the first one we've had going into as SB Champs.

Bennett's 29 anyway, so you gotta start thinking about his replacement anyhow. If he walks, he walks. IMO, he doesn't have half the leverage he thinks he does.

Do you have any names that I might look up for players in the draft that fit his profile? He was undrafted, but those are rare finds.

I don't, lol.

The article 4X linked did mention a FA named Everson Griffen, who played for Pete at USC and has spent the past several seasons in Minnesota.

They also talk about the fact that it's a saturated market in terms of FA's at the DE & DT positions, which bodes well for the Seahawks, since we're in need of both. It also means Bennett's leverage is considerably less than he thinks, as I mentioned before and is mentioned in the link.

OL is the main concern, IMO. It needs an upgrade. There's just no way around that if we want RW to stay healthy, along with being that much better of an offense. After that, I go DL/DE, along with WR. If we land a pass rushing specialist type, along with another burner at receiver to compliment Harvin, watch out.

But I think it's Percy's health, really, that's the Huge X-factor for next season. If the Seahawks increase their scoring by just 3 pts a game, it would make a big difference given the D that we have, even if there's a slightly different look to it in 2014.

[THX-1138]

Ok normally I wouldn't say this as it will be construed as "trollish", but are there really 10+ replies about Bennett's comnent? What happened to the whole "He was just being honest" or "But it's TRUE" line of thought? LolI guess the truth does piss people off when it's phrased a certain way.

I don't get what your point is. Are you attempting to make a statement about how much we are posting on a subject? I didn't know that there was a rule on this forum that was privy only to a 49er fan as to how many posts a topic should merit. It appears that you didn't read any of the comments. The vast majority, probably all if my memory serves from actually having read the comments, were that Bennett SHOULD get ask for his payday. To a member here it seems we would all think he deserves it and just about all of us would bear no grudge if he walked if he was offered a better deal. A couple of us commented that what he said rubbed us the wrong way, myself included, but that would be us being honest.

So yes, how else would your comment be construed but as trollish?

I read all of the comments. No doubt it rubbed you the wrong way and other people too in your fanbase (read NFL.Com or ESPN.Com re: posted to Bennet's comment). Anytime someone uses hyperbole to make a point like Bennett did, they are trying to elicit an emotional reaction. This is common sense. If it meant nothing, no one would have responded to give their opposing view .

But really, I was making a joke. I think you read way too much into it.

I'm being generous when I point out to you that you are being trollish.

You still have no reply to the fact that almost to a person we all bear no grudge to Michael Bennett should he seek greener pastures elsewhere. If you're not going to address the whole of the conversation, and need to be reminded more than once that you have missed the point, then perhaps you should reassess your ability to participate in a meaningful way.

In other words, much ado about nothing. Your "conflict" is non-existent.

[HumanCockroach]

LOL, so he saw the comments on these boards about people being upset with Bennetts non news, but somehow "missed" the conspiracy garbage floated by Niners fans on same said boards. This IS a PERFECT example of Futers "selective" reading, and thought process... LMAO.

[Futureite]

Just to clarify, I posted some people would view that comment as trollish. I though it was fine. The point that I didn't make but you have been trying to draw out of me is that that idiot Shernan runs his yap 24/7 with REAL "troll" attention grabbing comments, but 99.99% of your fans are just fine with it. That dumbF is still demeaning the Broncos after the Hawks destroyed them, claiming the Hawks had all his signals figured out and - oh duh - if Peyton had only looked their DBs off the Hawks woulda been screwed. But Mark Schlereth pointed out how stupid that comment was on ESPNRadio, as EVERY team knows what the other team does best, and Peyton had no time to look anyone off because Bennett and Avril et al were in his face before 2 seconds into his dropback. "But what he said is truuuuue!" No, 90% of what that idiot says is not true lol. The irony of you getting so hurt over a harmless joke that I made while rasta man yaps like a little dog needing attention 24/7 was the underlying point that I was making with that 2 FN sentence post that I made.

I did see the conspiracy post. The guy that wasted all the time putting that together is a moron too. I try to make it a habit of avoiding a moron's thesis. Sorry that dude doesn't represent our team, and the ones that have spoken out were lambasted for it (Culliver, Moss, T.O on and on). If a rotational guy with 8.5 sacks wants to break your team's bank and break out his standup comedy routine with snappy little comments - and you're down - hey, more power to ya. If he were a 49er I'd say hit the road "playa" and go get paid.

I could care less. I was making a joke troll.

[NorthHawk]

I hate to break this to you, but Sherman isn't trolling another teams website.

[monkey]

He has his ring. Now he's looking for as much scratch as a he can get before the clock strikes 12 and his carriage turns into a pumpkin. Can't say as I blame him. Slap the FT on him and keep him another year.

I don't see that working actually.
They can't afford the 11 million putting the tag on him would cost, I see Bennett as either one and done, or signing a four year deal similar to what Cameron Wake signed with the Dolphins. I don't really see any in-between, it's either we sign him to a three or four year deal or the Bears will.

[monkey]

Can't tag him. Tagging Bennett would cost 12.6 million against the cap. Need that money for Earl's extension. If he prices himself out, he prices himself out. Seahawks have to move on. They knew that was a possibility when they signed him for a 1 year mercenary deal.

Guess I should have kept reading before responding, Kalibane said the same thing I was trying to say.
One of these days I'll read the whole thread before replying.

[monkey]

I have no problem with Bennett wanting the biggest contract he can get. I'd be doing the same dmn thing and so would everyone else.

My question is: why did he have to be such a smart-ass about it with the Costco/Walmart cracks? The *team* wasn't asking him to give them a discount for Pete's sake.

I don't know- I guess he probably wasn't directing it at the team or fanbase, but it felt like he was to me.

I heard the interview where he said that, and he wasn't being a smartass, he was being funny.
He and his brother both are among the goofiest people you would ever want to meet, and I mean goofy in a nice way. They're truly funny and interesting people who say whatever goes through their heads, whenever it goes through.
When Bennett said that, it was in the context of explaining that he would like to stay in Seattle, that he loves the team the city and the players, but he also understands that it's a business, and he too isn't in the business of giving his talents away "like Costco".
In context, what he said was just funny, and in no way sounded as though he were wanting to leave or was being a smartass.

[Distant Relative]

LOL, so he saw the comments on these boards about people being upset with Bennetts non news, but somehow "missed" the conspiracy garbage floated by Niners fans on same said boards. This IS a PERFECT example of Futers "selective" reading, and thought process... LMAO.

Isn't that exactly what CP used to do?

[HumanCockroach]

Yep.

[depaashaas]

Well he want's to get paid, can't blame him for that. But he's been only a two year sack wonder with a torn rotator cuff. So he's got a ring and want's to get paid, you know jerad allen is a free agent and is a 10 year proven sack machine and has gotten paid already and he probably would like to have a ring before he retires, and he may do it for a discount. I wouldn't mind if he does come and improves his 2011 sack #'s.....Oh crap did I just wrote in favor of a vikings player to come play for the Hawks? Please disregard my post.

[Distant Relative]

He'll be 32 next year. I don't think that will be a PC move but I guess you never know. 11.5 sacks last year aint to shabby though.

[RiverDog]

He has his ring. Now he's looking for as much scratch as a he can get before the clock strikes 12 and his carriage turns into a pumpkin. Can't say as I blame him. Slap the FT on him and keep him another year.

I don't see that working actually.
They can't afford the 11 million putting the tag on him would cost, I see Bennett as either one and done, or signing a four year deal similar to what Cameron Wake signed with the Dolphins. I don't really see any in-between, it's either we sign him to a three or four year deal or the Bears will.

Yea, I've since reconsidered the wisdom of my wanting to slap the FT on Bennett. I don't think anyone will pay that kind of dough, and if they do, we have some cheaper options that are almost as good as resigning him. This is one occasion where my opinion has been influenced by what you guys have posted.

[Eaglehawk]

He has his ring. Now he's looking for as much scratch as a he can get before the clock strikes 12 and his carriage turns into a pumpkin. Can't say as I blame him. Slap the FT on him and keep him another year.

I don't see that working actually.
They can't afford the 11 million putting the tag on him would cost, I see Bennett as either one and done, or signing a four year deal similar to what Cameron Wake signed with the Dolphins. I don't really see any in-between, it's either we sign him to a three or four year deal or the Bears will.

Yea, I've since reconsidered the wisdom of my wanting to slap the FT on Bennett. I don't think anyone will pay that kind of dough, and if they do, we have some cheaper options that are almost as good as resigning him. This is one occasion where my opinion has been influenced by what you guys have posted.

I gotta agree with you all. Let him walk if he wants to.

Riv, as you said, I think we can get someone especially on the FA side that can be a beast like Bennett, does not break the bank and wants a ring to boot. I don't mind us turning into a free agency turnstile ala Patriots. They are in the playoffs every year and most of the time go deep as well. Now, don't get me wrong, their system aint perfect, and neither is ours, but we picked better picks 2013 all across the board. I'll take it.

[RiverDog]

We have to be the destination of choice for defensive linemen, playing in front of the Legion of Boom, LB's like Wagner and Wright, a defensive minded head coach like Pete, the undisputed best team and best defense in the league and the odds on favorite to repeat, and playing half their games with that split second jump the 12th man gives them. I'm OK if Bennett decides to turn all that down and go for the bigger payday. We'll find someone to replace him.

[NorthHawk]

He'll be 32 next year. I don't think that will be a PC move but I guess you never know. 11.5 sacks last year aint to shabby though.

Are you talking Clemons will be 32? Bennett will be 29 this November. Birth Date November 13th, 1985.

[mykc14]

I just don't see the market for him being that high. Honestly I would be surprised if he signed anywhere for over 8 mil a year. My gut feeling is that he hits free agency and doesn't find the deal he is looking for and we get him for under 8 a year, unless we have already signed somebody to take his spot. My other feeling is that the Hawks sign Jared Allen to a one year 5 or 6 mil contract after cutting Clemmons, but that is another story.

[THX-1138]

I could care less. I was making a joke troll.

I see you've moved on from troll to typical 49ers fan.

[Distant Relative]

He'll be 32 next year. I don't think that will be a PC move but I guess you never know. 11.5 sacks last year aint to shabby though.

Are you talking Clemons will be 32? Bennett will be 29 this November. Birth Date November 13th, 1985.

Nope, Jarred Allen. I know how old Bennett is. It was in response to a post about JA. I guess I forgot to click the "quote" button.

[monkey]

That dumbF is still demeaning the Broncos after the Hawks destroyed them, claiming the Hawks had all his signals figured out and - oh duh - if Peyton had only looked their DBs off the Hawks woulda been screwed.

I hate commenting on any of your posts, but the dumbF here is you! You need to do a better job of reading, because Richard Sherman did NOT EVER ONCE say that they stole "all" of his signals you freaking moron!!!!

And talking about Mark Schlereth explaining anything??? Stink?!? Seriously, you're quoting Stink??? My word...he's a complete moron, and ADMITS he is!
Mark Schlereth has no CLUE what Richard Sherman said, he was arguing against a straw man! He was arguing against something that Sherman NEVER BLOODY SAID!! (Though Schlereth was hardly the only incredibly lazy media member, or "journalist" who completely misquoted Sherman!!)

I challenge you, go back and read what Sherman ACTUALLY said, and then come back here and quote it IF YOU HAVE THE STONES, and either apologize for intentionally misquoting Sherman, or else own up to the fact that you've never actually read what he said!
It's one or the other, either you are INTENTIONALLY misquoting him, or you've never read what he said, and you are just going on hearsay.

I have the quote right here in front of me, so don't even TRY to misquote it or take it out of context or I will show you up for the troll you are.

[monkey]

You know what? Screw that, I'm not even going to bother waiting for some stupid troll to get his crap together and figure out where he's wrong, I'm just going to drop him right now.

"We knew what route concepts they liked on different downs, so we jumped all the routes. Then we figured out the hand signals for a few of the route audibles in the first half. ... If Peyton had thrown in some double moves, if he had gone out of character, we could've been exposed."
Did you get that? A "few" of his hand signals for the first half.
Does that look even REMOTELY like what he's been misquoted as saying???
Does it troll?

U still MAD BRO?
Cuz you try us with a sorry attempt at trolling like you did, that's the result you're going to get! You open your mouth to misquote Sherman I'm gonna shut it for you real quick.

[Eaglehawk]

Don't waste your breath on him Monkey.
F is not worth it.

[HumanCockroach]

Uh oh, looks like I am not the only one who see's you for what you are. Is the lying habitual, or just ignorance? Either way, you continue to do it, and that noose you keep tying just gets tighter and tighter. ( by the way, who the HELL brought Sherman into this discussion? Just because you have a personal bias and issue with the guy, doesn't mean he is relevant or an "excuse" for every troll like post you make).

What Sherman says or does has nothing to do with this topic in the least, so throwing him out there as a shield (especially if you are going to LIE about it) just solidifies your position on this board, which is a bearable troll, who likes to lie from time to time, and simply doesn't pass the "eye test" as far as knowledgeable football fans go.

Congrats Future, keep on keeping on the "good fight",Niners fans I am sure are really proud of you. LMFAO