Official Post Game Thread

[savvyman]

Playoffs look much more unlikely after today's game.

I appreciate the effort the players gave. There are just too many weaknesses in the current team - especially on offense - for the Hawks to be considered a superbowl threat at this time.

Again our defensive coordinator cannot call a game plan that get's the opposing team offense off the field on third down.

Key play of the game? 2nd and goal on the 4 with the score 24-20 - Seahawk's called a pass play where Baldwin was tackled for no gain setting up a third and 4 - if the Hawks felt they were in 4 down territory at that point then second, third and if needed 4th down should have been BEAST, BEAST & BEAST.

Not impressed with the Hawks offensive and defensive schemes and play calling most of this year.

[Anthony]

Playoffs look much more unlikely after today's game.

I appreciate the effort the players gave. There are just too many weaknesses in the current team - especially on offense - for the Hawks to be considered a superbowl threat at this time.

Again our defensive coordinator cannot call a game plan that get's the opposing team offense off the field on third down.

Key play of the game? 2nd and goal on the 4 with the score 24-20 - Seahawk's called a pass play where Baldwin was tackled for no gain setting up a third and 4 - if the Hawks felt they were in 4 down territory at that point then second, third and if needed 4th down should have been BEAST, BEAST & BEAST.

Not impressed with the Hawks offensive and defensive schemes and play calling most of this year.

Agreed I would add, very unimpressed with the dline
oline was okay till 4th qtr then were horrible
Why cant our WR get open, and why when they do is it after Wilson has had to run?
On offense we have 2 playmakers Wilson and Lynch we need more

[Zorn76]

We knew this would be a tough game going in. I always predict Seahawk victories as a homer, but knew this would be a big task for our team.

FG's on the road are a Killer. Kearse dropped what should've been a TD. OL was terrible, as usual, in pass protection. We ran the ball well, but the D coughed up 159 yds to Charles.

Bevell did not mix it up well on his play calls, particularly on the final drive. We needed RW to run some naked bootlegs to keep chains moving. It was not necessary to throw on early downs every time.

We played hard, but have to be smarter. Very little margin for error, especially in a place like Arrowhead.

Beyond that, we're still in this thing playoff wise. Gotta go a minimum of 4-2 to get there, though.

3 at home, 3 on the road. We must win out at The Clink, then maybe steal one away in Philly. We host Az next week, while SF hosts a really bad Washington team. Gotta keep pace.

It is possible, but it's going to be difficult. We missed a chance today.

On a positive note - we do get Wagner back next game, which is Huge.

Hang in there, folks. It ain't over till it's over.

Go Seahawks!!!

[monkey]

Disappointed with the final result, but not the effort...well...for the most part anyway. There was one particular drive KC had where they ran four plays, went 80 yards and got a first down, first down, first down, touch down. That's PATHETIC! It was as if they took that whole drive off completely.

Wilson looked terrific today, his accuracy was back and he kept things alive even when plays were ridiculously broken.
Makes me wonder what he could do in a real offense, with better receivers and a real offensive coordinator?
The offensive line is completely one dimensional right now, they move the run game along quite nicely, but pass protection STINKS! I should have never said nice things about Sweezy, as soon as I did, he gave up a HUGE sack on that last drive, getting beat badly one vs. one. That was ugly.

The amazing part was, even on that last play, where Britt got beaten around the corner, and Wilson had to scramble for his life, he STILL managed to make exactly the right read, and make a pretty good throw under the circumstances. If only Richardson makes that catch...

At the moment, the only things we have going offensively are Lynch and Wilson, the receivers are NOT getting open.
I would have liked to see Maeoki get into the game more, we saw him that one TD play, then, virtually nothing. I'd also like to see Norwood in the game a LOT more than we have. We need a big body possession receiver SO BADLY, and I keep thinking that Norwood could be that guy. Apparently he's not ready yet.

As irritating as certain parts of the offense can be, the defense was what was killing me today! Where were they? For that matter, where have they gone almost all year? Frustrating to say the least.

[Seahawks4Ever]

Money that went to Harvin should have been spent on Golden Tate, we develop him then let him go, is Schneider emulating the Mariners??? I am so sick of Darrell Bevel and his bubble screens and other passes that go for a yard or worse. I also want to trade the next idiot who decides to run the ball from deep in the end zone and giving RW an extra long filed to work with.

They should have had kept Clinton McDonald and/or Red Bryant to keep that great rotation up and/or in case a guy like Mebane goes down, but NOOO just had to waste that money on Harvin. Or, maybe, just maybe they could have drafted a run stopper, but that's right, the wasted all of those picks on PH. Or how about all of the other wasted high draft round picks. I have said until I was blue in the face that it would come back to bite us and it has.

But I can understand our defense not being able to stop anybody because so many are out with injury.

Still though, there is NO PASS RUSH to speak of, NADA, NOTHING! Oh, and I am sick of guys who can't tackle to save their lives. Tell me again why we kept those bozos yet let guys who could tackle go ???

I gushed about Poe back when he was in the draft, but NOOOO we had to draft Bruce Irvin who disappears for games on end. Sometimes good, sometimes not, some times great, most times not. If we were going to reach we could have reached and drafted Poe., I know I know he wasn't 1st. round material, but then neither was Irvin now was he?

I don't think I have EVER witnessed a worse tackling Seahawk team than he one I witnessed today.

I am more POed than I have been in a long long time.

I have to believe that PC and JS have maxed out what ever they brought to the table and PA should think about bringing in a coach that can actually coach on game day and pick assistants that know what they are doing and JS needs to learn how to judge talent other than calling up Ron Wolf and asking him what he would do...

Oh, and I see one more Richard Sherman "Mama's Boy" soup commercial I am going to puke. He is not a "shut down" corner and it is pure horse hockey the reason they give why he doesn't take out a team's best receiver. He doesn't follow the opposing team's best receiver because he will get burned. He is happy to stay on the left side and take on the other team's 3rd. receiver.

[HumanCockroach]

Wow. Just wow.

[curmudgeon]

At least we got one Lombardi before I take my dirt nap........

[burrrton]

Now that the Cards took care of business yet again and we've pissed down our legs, what's the over/under on how many weeks before Zona clinches and starts resting guys?

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And let's be honest- with our inability for guys to stay on the field and/or perform when they're there, with STL beating Denver tonight, we could be staring down the barrel of a last place finish in our division, couldn't we?

[NorthHawk]

Money that went to Harvin should have been spent on Golden Tate, we develop him then let him go, is Schneider emulating the Mariners??? I am so sick of Darrell Bevel and his bubble screens and other passes that go for a yard or worse. I also want to trade the next idiot who decides to run the ball from deep in the end zone and giving RW an extra long filed to work with.

They should have had kept Clinton McDonald and/or Red Bryant to keep that great rotation up and/or in case a guy like Mebane goes down, but NOOO just had to waste that money on Harvin. Or, maybe, just maybe they could have drafted a run stopper, but that's right, the wasted all of those picks on PH. Or how about all of the other wasted high draft round picks. I have said until I was blue in the face that it would come back to bite us and it has.

But I can understand our defense not being able to stop anybody because so many are out with injury.

Still though, there is NO PASS RUSH to speak of, NADA, NOTHING! Oh, and I am sick of guys who can't tackle to save their lives. Tell me again why we kept those bozos yet let guys who could tackle go ???

I gushed about Poe back when he was in the draft, but NOOOO we had to draft Bruce Irvin who disappears for games on end. Sometimes good, sometimes not, some times great, most times not. If we were going to reach we could have reached and drafted Poe., I know I know he wasn't 1st. round material, but then neither was Irvin now was he?

I don't think I have EVER witnessed a worse tackling Seahawk team than he one I witnessed today.

I am more POed than I have been in a long long time.

I have to believe that PC and JS have maxed out what ever they brought to the table and PA should think about bringing in a coach that can actually coach on game day and pick assistants that know what they are doing and JS needs to learn how to judge talent other than calling up Ron Wolf and asking him what he would do...

Oh, and I see one more Richard Sherman "Mama's Boy" soup commercial I am going to puke. He is not a "shut down" corner and it is pure horse hockey the reason they give why he doesn't take out a team's best receiver. He doesn't follow the opposing team's best receiver because he will get burned. He is happy to stay on the left side and take on the other team's 3rd. receiver.

Not every year can be like 2013 when everything came together. There's a reason why champions rarely repeat in the NFL.
The nucleus is still good, but some quality additions are required to return to last years level of success.

[HumanCockroach]

Yes finally some elbow room in this bandwagon. See you guys in a few weeks. SMH.

This stuff is hilarious, put down the razor blades, ropes, guns and cyanide, it ain't over yet. Good lord.

[mykc14]

Yes finally some elbow room in this bandwagon. See you guys in a few weeks. SMH.

This stuff is hilarious, put down the razor blades, ropes, guns and cyanide, it ain't over yet. Good lord.

I agree. A win would have been nice but not the end of the world. Everybody knew it would be difficult to get a W at Arrowhead. Cards D played very well today and will be tough next week but we still are in a position to get to the playoffs. This team isn't out of it until its out (mathamatically).

[HumanCockroach]

Yep. It ain't over til' it's over. For all any of us know they are going to real off six, pass the Cards ( someone tell me again how "good" Stanton is?) And have the one seed. Thing about the future is it is always changing, and there is simply no way to know what the next week brings. Ellington was injured today, how serious was it? Can they even score 14 a game with Stanton staring down his targets all game and attempting to throw five interceptions?Can the Card D carry the offense for the rest of the year? How will SF fare against teams like Seattle? Who are NOT the Giants, or Skins or whatever rubbish they play this week. Can Philly win with Sanchize getting worked week in and week out? How long will Murray hold up at the pace they are setting? Romo? Will the D show it's true talent level or continue to do just enough to win? Can the Rams cause problems for the big three in the division moving forward? Can the Lions beat a winning team not named GB? Is GB's suspect D still an issue.....

So many questions, and NONE can be answered until these teams play the games. It sucks that Seattle created an eenvironment where no real wiggle room is left, but anyone thinking that the division is completely lost isn't paying attention, much less there is zero chance at the playoffs, for really any of the teams still mathematically alive, hell currently the FALCONS are the number four seed in the playoffs, if nothing else, this clearly demonstrates how "unknown" the final cut is.

Just get IN the playoffs, and see where it goes.Experience in the postseason matters, so just get there.

[BelizeHawk]

This was one you kind of penciled in at the beginning of the season as a loss. Early game at Arrowhead against a playoff caliber team. We are now on the outside looking in as far as the playoffs but some of the teams in front of us have potential to start backsliding so if we can take care of business at home and steal at least one on the road we have a shot at the wild card. Unfortunately it looks like the Cards are out in front far enough that we probably wont catch them. Snag that wild card spot though and anything can happen in the playoffs.
That being said is this not the worst set of pass catchers we have ever seen on a Hawks team? That Harvin mess and the corresponding middle finger to Golden Tate sure put this team at a disadvantage.

[monkey]

Yes finally some elbow room in this bandwagon. See you guys in a few weeks. SMH.

This stuff is hilarious, put down the razor blades, ropes, guns and cyanide, it ain't over yet. Good lord.

Wow, no kidding!!! Richard Sherman "isn't a lock down corner?" Apparently "lock down" corner means a cornerback who never ever ever gives up a single pass ever?

Seriously, Seahawks4ever sounds as if he's been betrayed personally or something.
It's a GAME! A GAME. It's a game that the Seahawks were the champions of just last year, and apparently now we get upset when they lose what...because we just expect and demand they win every week???

If the thinking was that we would just roll over everyone every week, that was some ridiculous thinking. Kansas City in Arrowhead has ALWAYS been a tough matchup for us. Historically, it's been a place we only very rarely win.

Take a breath people. Even if they don't make the playoffs this year, we have a young team with a young superstar QB and a young core that we can build around every year.

[Hawk Sista]

So, we all knew that it would be a tough matchup in a tough environment, and so it came to pass that we did in fact lose a hard fought game in said environment. So, now the season is over an everybody sucks?? Really? I understand blowing off steam (trust me, I do). It is a challenge to lose a game and not find and hang the culprit - I challenge y'all to do just that.

The ONLY part of this game that made me disbelieve in our chances down the line was the injury to Unger.

[Agent 86]

Yep. It ain't over til' it's over. For all any of us know they are going to real off six, pass the Cards ( someone tell me again how "good" Stanton is?) And have the one seed. Thing about the future is it is always changing, and there is simply no way to know what the next week brings. Ellington was injured today, how serious was it? Can they even score 14 a game with Stanton staring down his targets all game and attempting to throw five interceptions?Can the Card D carry the offense for the rest of the year? How will SF fare against teams like Seattle? Who are NOT the Giants, or Skins or whatever rubbish they play this week. Can Philly win with Sanchize getting worked week in and week out? How long will Murray hold up at the pace they are setting? Romo? Will the D show it's true talent level or continue to do just enough to win? Can the Rams cause problems for the big three in the division moving forward? Can the Lions beat a winning team not named GB? Is GB's suspect D still an issue.....

So many questions, and NONE can be answered until these teams play the games. It sucks that Seattle created an eenvironment where no real wiggle room is left, but anyone thinking that the division is completely lost isn't paying attention, much less there is zero chance at the playoffs, for really any of the teams still mathematically alive, hell currently the FALCONS are the number four seed in the playoffs, if nothing else, this clearly demonstrates how "unknown" the final cut is.

Just get IN the playoffs, and see where it goes.Experience in the postseason matters, so just get there.

I don't know if Stanton has to even "good". He just has to be average and hit some throws when he needs to. Reason being, the Cards D is playing unreal this season. Reminds me of what the Hawks were last year. Flying around the field, great pass rush, good secondary, someone always there when a catch is made, solid tackling. Campbell is just a beast. The interior pass rush they get just reminds of how bad the Hawks has been this year ( something I know you have eluded to HCR, such a big difference from last year).

A 3 game lead looks like it will be safe, the Cards are playing with a swagger now and a lot of confidence, and it comes from their D. I would think a split with them is most likely a best case scenario, but we all know it's the NFL and anything can happen.

I am little bummed out tonight cause I am coming down from north of the border for next week's game and was so hoping it would be for the division lead. This game today was winnable, not sure what the heck that play call was on the 4th down and goal to Baldwin?

Still a great chance to make the post season though, I still feel confident about it, but things need to get cleaned up and guys are needed back from injury. The schedule is tough no doubt with 5 division games and the Eagles, so if they do make the post season, they will be going in confident and will have earned it.

Wonder what RW3 would be like with a little time and some receivers who got open. Ya know, I don't think he trusts anyone out there to throw up a 50/50 ball. That's why he's running so much and looking "inaccurate". He refuses to throw a costly INT, so I think on some passes, he puts it more in a spot where if the catch is made, it would be a heck of a catch. One only his receiver could make?....maybe I'm wrong in thinking this, but there is just too many times where he drops back to pass and ends up running or least scrambling out of the pocket. Is it the O-line, or is it the WR's not getting open?...probably a combo.

[Anthony]

Wonder what RW3 would be like with a little time and some receivers who got open. Ya know, I don't think he trusts anyone out there to throw up a 50/50 ball. That's why he's running so much and looking "inaccurate". He refuses to throw a costly INT, so I think on some passes, he puts it more in a spot where if the catch is made, it would be a heck of a catch. One only his receiver could make?....maybe I'm wrong in thinking this, but there is just too many times where he drops back to pass and ends up running or least scrambling out of the pocket. Is it the O-line, or is it the WR's not getting open?...probably a combo.

Agreed on both and wonder what he would look like too with a decent oline and WRs I am sure he winder as well.

[Zorn76]

IMO, it's a must win game next week, because if we drop to 6-5, that means 4-1 the rest of the way to make the playoffs, provided 10 W's gets you in.

I understand if some out there roll there eyes or shake their heads to that statement, but that's how I see it. This season is what it is, and it's nothing like last season, especially with all the injuries we've had to get through.

That said, we get Wagner back. That's Big. We get to host the Cards for our 1st matchup against them, another bonus. Then it's a short week before playing on Thanksgiving vs SF, who haven't proved that their new digs is a big HFA to this point.

The key is the timing of wins and losses. Getting the victory next Sunday gives us a bit more breathing room, and would help take the pressure off a little moving forward. Beat AZ next week, then we have to finish 3-2 the rest of the way. Big difference than having to go 4-1.

No matter how you slice it, I really believe we have to win out at home, then win another on the road.

I understand there's plenty of games left, but the NFC is an incredibly competitive conference this year.

There are also more desirable situations than others. For instance, it would serve us better to have Detroit and Dallas win their respective divisions, since we hold the tiebreaker against the Packers, and hopefully will have the same advantage against the Eagles, provided we beat them down the road.

We'll see how it shakes out. We are capable of going on a run, but we need to afford ourselves the best opportunity possible. That starts next Sunday vs the Cards.

We Need That Game.

Badly.

Go Seahawks!!!

[obiken]

NO the Cards have too many weapons and are playing at a high level. We would have to win 4 of the last 6 to have a chance all of them against Playoff teams except the Rams, great teams don't put themselves in that position. We lost to the Rams, Chargers, and Dallas, all games we should have won and we would be 9-1 like the Cards. As the Big Tuna said you are what your record is.

[HumanCockroach]

Aren't you the guy professing Dallas "unbeatable" at home as well? I think I'll wait to see how it all plays out before doubting the team I root for. The Cards have some weapons, no one that is effective getting the ball to them, but it will only be a week before we see first hand how amazing those great Cards are. SMH. People never,ever learn that anything can happen, anything, including Seattle winning out, and Cards losing out, SF making the playoffs, with Seattle and Arizona sitting at home, hell even the fricken RAMS could still win the damn division. Probable, and likely, isn't the same as "will" happen.

People writing stories before the author is even in the room.

[depaashaas]

Although this was a tough loss but most people seem to forget that KC is playing some damn good football and with the injury bug hitting Unger again it was a damn close game and I for one am still puzzled by bevel is calling a run up the middle on 4th and 1 with your back up center?? Some people call it guts but I call it good or no good arrogant and stupid.

This year looks like a it is becoming a regroup year as they have lost just a few to many peaces through either free agency or injuries and after the season they will have to fill in the weak spots. Don't get me wrong there is just to much football left to throw in the towel at this point but the Hawks are just having a few to many issues this season. But I always have a silver lining KC is not the bad team it has been for the last decade, I think they are actually good and they are going to make it to SB and with the Hawks still having the opportunity to make it there and if they get that far you will have that revenge factor, and revenge always makes good games

[Hawktawk]

As quite often this year the play calling was awful. PCs decision to forgo the FG at about the 7 minute mark coupled with a very low percentage play call on 4th down was terrible coaching. Bottom line Seattle is beat up and Bevell wasn't in the sweet spot and it was still right there. Reid has all my respect, that's an excellent team.

I dont think 10 wins is going to yield a playoff spot, I think the # to be safe is 11 which means 1 more loss the rest of the way. Without Unger its going to be tough and we saw what losing Mebane means too but If they can get a win somehow next week the division title is still on life support. Either way I'm proud of how the guys fought. Lynch and RW my God hearts of champions.

[Futureite]

As quite often this year the play calling was awful. PCs decision to forgo the FG at about the 7 minute mark coupled with a very low percentage play call on 4th down was terrible coaching. Bottom line Seattle is beat up and Bevell wasn't in the sweet spot and it was still right there. Reid has all my respect, that's an excellent team.

I dont think 10 wins is going to yield a playoff spot, I think the # to be safe is 11 which means 1 more loss the rest of the way. Without Unger its going to be tough and we saw what losing Mebane means too but If they can get a win somehow next week the division title is still on life support. Either way I'm proud of how the guys fought. Lynch and RW my God hearts of champions.

I think 11 "may" do it. I am not of the opinion that Cards lose the division. I think it's basically locked. The reason for that is due as much to Seattle/SF's up and down play as it is to AZ. We are both flawed teams that can drop a game to anyone, and AZ only needs to go 3-3 the rest of the way to effect all of the tiebreakers.

Seattle has the toughest schedule left in the Div by far, but they also own the conference record tiebreaker with us (2 of your losses came v the AFC). That worries me, and makes Thanksgiving an almost must win for us. If we can win that game I am assuming we get to 9-4, with the Redskins and Raiders games sandwhiched before and after. But I prob shouldn't even assume that. I still believe we could post 11 wins and not qualify.

This Cards game will be tough. Actually a very exciting and intruiging matchup. Thinking they win the div, I guess I have to root for AZ. But if I am betting, prob leaning toward Seattle at home. These div games are going to make for a wild race to the 5th and 6th seeds down the stretch. You win next two and you are in the driver's seat for one of those slots.

[HumanCockroach]

Sorry man that isn't accurate. If Cards go 3-3 Seattle goes 6-0 Seattle wraps the division. Yes it is unlikely ( really almost impossible) but THAT is what makes football great. The Cards surprise me, in that they win games like yesterday. Stanton plays pretty horribly, and they still win 14-6... Who knows if it will Continue? I like Seattle's chances if they make the post season, I honestly do ( and skip the "homer" reteric) they have experience, and clutch players. Health is a concern, but there isn't a team in the NFC I feel it would be impossible for Seattle to beat on the road in the playoffs. It wouldn't be easy, or a given, but name the team that is "unbeatable" at home? Philly with Sanchise? Cards with Stanton? Dallas who can't win at home? GB? Maybe? The team that falls in the post season at home almost every year? NO? ATL? Car? Detroit? Who is the unstoppable home playoff team in this division?

That said, whether they make it or not, is still very much up in the air. We'll see how the Cards handle the final six, something tells me 3-3 might be their highwater mark for those six, 2-4 is more likely.

[Seahawks4Ever]

Stick a fork in the Seahawks, they are done. I can hear it now, the win in Super Bowl 48 was a fluke, an aberration. One and DONE is what "they" will say.

Sadly, it didn't have to be this way, but the seeds were planted last season, Y'all know what I am talking about so I won't reiterate.

Yeah, whoever said this is now a retool year is correct, but then, who is going to make those retool decisions? Same guys who can't draft an O-Lineman? Same guys who throw away top draft picks as if they mean nothing?? Same guys who trade for injury prone mega pricks???

I feel fortunate to have lived to see our Seahawks to win a Super Bowl, my brother only lived to see them lose one. because I doubt we will see them in the big dance with the current regime in charge. That is a prediction, a prediction I am loathe to make but one I worry may come true. Pete and John have taken this team as far as they can take it. I know people are going to deride me for "jumping off of the bandwagon but I saw the pattern before after 2005. You remember 2005? We all thought they would be back to the Super Bowl under Mike Holmgren but we know now that the powers that be had already missed any opportunity to strengthen the team. That window of opportunity we thought would be still open was in fact closed. That's what I am saying, the window of opportunity that was opened by PC and JS has already been closed because of their failure to draft competently and trade competently. Sure, they got lucky a few times with certain UDFA"s and their 4th.-7th. draft picks but they consistently whiffed with their 1st.-3rd. draft picks and gave away other picks with certain trades that we now scratch our heads at.

Oh, and I now understand why I got so worked up at LTF in his "Trade Wilson for Luck" thread. It was because subconsciously I agreed with it.

What's wrong with Wilson? Well, what's wrong can't be fixed because what is wrong is that he is too short to be QB in the NFL. What's that? he is too short? You don't know what you are talking about 99.9% of you will tell me. Well, I too drank the kool aid qwith the way he played his first two seasons. But, a pattern has now been set and that pattern shows that Wilson can't see his open receivers down field and can't "throw open" receivers because he is TOO SHORT to see defenders that are just licking their chops hoping he does throw the ball. Sure, all QB's need throwing lanes but Wilson doesn't trust his throwing lanes because. here it comes, WILSON IS TOO SHORT!!! Instead Wilson has to wait until he can see that his receiver is open (something we used to accuse T-Jack of doing btw.) and by that time it is too late to throw the ball because the receiver is no longer open. This leads Wilson to do three things, the first is that he will still throw the ball but to the receivers feet or behind them leading to incomplete passes. Wilson will sail the ball leading to an imcomplete pass. 3rd. and most likely he will tuck the ball under his arm and make a great play with his feet. Now, most of us have been blaming the O-Line for not giving Wilson enough time to throw, and while that is the case some of the time the COLD HARD TRUTH is that most of the time they have given Wilson plenty of time but it has been indecision by Wilson himself that has caused the problem. Oh, and there is a fourth thing that happens, Wilson will throw the ball but the defender makes a play on the ball. The only reason Wilson has not had more ints. is because most of the time the defender has either dropped a sure interception ot our receiver knocks the ball away.

Russell Wilson is great, with his feet. Russell Wilson reads defenses as great as PM and TB. Russell Wilson is as great a leader especially at a young age. Unfortunately though Russell Wilson is TOO SHORT TO PLAY QB IN THE NFL and I am sorry if the truth hurts but that is the COLD HARD TRUTH!!!!!

Go ahead, rip me to pieces, I desperately hope I am wrong, but I have a sick feeling I am right and our team is going to sink to mediocrity and that just sucks.

[Hawktawk]

Dude....Back away from the ledge. Cripes. I have been watching this team since their inception and in probably 25 of their seasons I would have been overjoyed with them sitting at 6-4 after 10 games. They were 6-5 in 2012.They have lost one game by more than a TD in the last 2.5 seasons so they always have a chance, despite being a mash unit much of the past 2 seasons.

And then when you start ragging on Wilson you lose everyone. You sound like a complete idiot right now.

Stick a fork in the Seahawks, they are done. I can hear it now, the win in Super Bowl 48 was a fluke, an aberration. One and DONE is what "they" will say.

Sadly, it didn't have to be this way, but the seeds were planted last season, Y'all know what I am talking about so I won't reiterate.

Yeah, whoever said this is now a retool year is correct, but then, who is going to make those retool decisions? Same guys who can't draft an O-Lineman? Same guys who throw away top draft picks as if they mean nothing?? Same guys who trade for injury prone mega pricks???

I feel fortunate to have lived to see our Seahawks to win a Super Bowl, my brother only lived to see them lose one. because I doubt we will see them in the big dance with the current regime in charge. That is a prediction, a prediction I am loathe to make but one I worry may come true. Pete and John have taken this team as far as they can take it. I know people are going to deride me for "jumping off of the bandwagon but I saw the pattern before after 2005. You remember 2005? We all thought they would be back to the Super Bowl under Mike Holmgren but we know now that the powers that be had already missed any opportunity to strengthen the team. That window of opportunity we thought would be still open was in fact closed. That's what I am saying, the window of opportunity that was opened by PC and JS has already been closed because of their failure to draft competently and trade competently. Sure, they got lucky a few times with certain UDFA"s and their 4th.-7th. draft picks but they consistently whiffed with their 1st.-3rd. draft picks and gave away other picks with certain trades that we now scratch our heads at.

Oh, and I now understand why I got so worked up at LTF in his "Trade Wilson for Luck" thread. It was because subconsciously I agreed with it.

What's wrong with Wilson? Well, what's wrong can't be fixed because what is wrong is that he is too short to be QB in the NFL. What's that? he is too short? You don't know what you are talking about 99.9% of you will tell me. Well, I too drank the kool aid qwith the way he played his first two seasons. But, a pattern has now been set and that pattern shows that Wilson can't see his open receivers down field and can't "throw open" receivers because he is TOO SHORT to see defenders that are just licking their chops hoping he does throw the ball. Sure, all QB's need throwing lanes but Wilson doesn't trust his throwing lanes because. here it comes, WILSON IS TOO SHORT!!! Instead Wilson has to wait until he can see that his receiver is open (something we used to accuse T-Jack of doing btw.) and by that time it is too late to throw the ball because the receiver is no longer open. This leads Wilson to do three things, the first is that he will still throw the ball but to the receivers feet or behind them leading to incomplete passes. Wilson will sail the ball leading to an imcomplete pass. 3rd. and most likely he will tuck the ball under his arm and make a great play with his feet. Now, most of us have been blaming the O-Line for not giving Wilson enough time to throw, and while that is the case some of the time the COLD HARD TRUTH is that most of the time they have given Wilson plenty of time but it has been indecision by Wilson himself that has caused the problem. Oh, and there is a fourth thing that happens, Wilson will throw the ball but the defender makes a play on the ball. The only reason Wilson has not had more ints. is because most of the time the defender has either dropped a sure interception ot our receiver knocks the ball away.

Russell Wilson is great, with his feet. Russell Wilson reads defenses as great as PM and TB. Russell Wilson is as great a leader especially at a young age. Unfortunately though Russell Wilson is TOO SHORT TO PLAY QB IN THE NFL and I am sorry if the truth hurts but that is the COLD HARD TRUTH!!!!!

Go ahead, rip me to pieces, I desperately hope I am wrong, but I have a sick feeling I am right and our team is going to sink to mediocrity and that just sucks.

[The POPE]

Oh my son you have lost the faith. Might I ask what qualifies you to make these statements regarding Mr. Wilson. Have you watched the coaches tape, recognized the defensive scheme, and made your judgement based upon knowledge or have fallen into Satans grip and are starting a campaign to take Saint Russell down. In terms of an NFL QB hes is short. The question is --is the inability to get the passing game going all because of his height or might it be a combination of mediocre receivers, bad line play and poor play calling.
Do we have any coaches out there who have watched the coaches film and can enlighten us as to the true problem.
Truth before condemnation.

Peace out

The Pope

[HumanCockroach]

Stick a fork in the Seahawks, they are done. I can hear it now, the win in Super Bowl 48 was a fluke, an aberration. One and DONE is what "they" will say.

Sadly, it didn't have to be this way, but the seeds were planted last season, Y'all know what I am talking about so I won't reiterate.

Yeah, whoever said this is now a retool year is correct, but then, who is going to make those retool decisions? Same guys who can't draft an O-Lineman? Same guys who throw away top draft picks as if they mean nothing?? Same guys who trade for injury prone mega pricks???

I feel fortunate to have lived to see our Seahawks to win a Super Bowl, my brother only lived to see them lose one. because I doubt we will see them in the big dance with the current regime in charge. That is a prediction, a prediction I am loathe to make but one I worry may come true. Pete and John have taken this team as far as they can take it. I know people are going to deride me for "jumping off of the bandwagon but I saw the pattern before after 2005. You remember 2005? We all thought they would be back to the Super Bowl under Mike Holmgren but we know now that the powers that be had already missed any opportunity to strengthen the team. That window of opportunity we thought would be still open was in fact closed. That's what I am saying, the window of opportunity that was opened by PC and JS has already been closed because of their failure to draft competently and trade competently. Sure, they got lucky a few times with certain UDFA"s and their 4th.-7th. draft picks but they consistently whiffed with their 1st.-3rd. draft picks and gave away other picks with certain trades that we now scratch our heads at.

Oh, and I now understand why I got so worked up at LTF in his "Trade Wilson for Luck" thread. It was because subconsciously I agreed with it.

What's wrong with Wilson? Well, what's wrong can't be fixed because what is wrong is that he is too short to be QB in the NFL. What's that? he is too short? You don't know what you are talking about 99.9% of you will tell me. Well, I too drank the kool aid qwith the way he played his first two seasons. But, a pattern has now been set and that pattern shows that Wilson can't see his open receivers down field and can't "throw open" receivers because he is TOO SHORT to see defenders that are just licking their chops hoping he does throw the ball. Sure, all QB's need throwing lanes but Wilson doesn't trust his throwing lanes because. here it comes, WILSON IS TOO SHORT!!! Instead Wilson has to wait until he can see that his receiver is open (something we used to accuse T-Jack of doing btw.) and by that time it is too late to throw the ball because the receiver is no longer open. This leads Wilson to do three things, the first is that he will still throw the ball but to the receivers feet or behind them leading to incomplete passes. Wilson will sail the ball leading to an imcomplete pass. 3rd. and most likely he will tuck the ball under his arm and make a great play with his feet. Now, most of us have been blaming the O-Line for not giving Wilson enough time to throw, and while that is the case some of the time the COLD HARD TRUTH is that most of the time they have given Wilson plenty of time but it has been indecision by Wilson himself that has caused the problem. Oh, and there is a fourth thing that happens, Wilson will throw the ball but the defender makes a play on the ball. The only reason Wilson has not had more ints. is because most of the time the defender has either dropped a sure interception ot our receiver knocks the ball away.

Russell Wilson is great, with his feet. Russell Wilson reads defenses as great as PM and TB. Russell Wilson is as great a leader especially at a young age. Unfortunately though Russell Wilson is TOO SHORT TO PLAY QB IN THE NFL and I am sorry if the truth hurts but that is the COLD HARD TRUTH!!!!!

Go ahead, rip me to pieces, I desperately hope I am wrong, but I have a sick feeling I am right and our team is going to sink to mediocrity and that just sucks.

LMFAO. You're right, why not find another team?

You compare this team to the 05' team without acknowledging any of the glaring differences, jump back on the Wilson is to short train ( LMFAO, you were ALSO the guy claiming he couldn't win one to begin with, and that no scrambling QB had ever won one ever, and that they couldn't do it with the short QB).

No one needs to "rip you to pieces" as you have done a thorough job of that all by yourself. As for "desperately" hoping to be wrong, you are, and will be repeatedly, as you have done with your worry wart, nervous rantings in the past, then you'll show up and profess your undying loyalty after you are. Same ol' same ol'.

Be my guest, the Cards bandwagon is that a way, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Keyriste I hate this "can't be happy, unless we are miserable" Seattle fan base crapola. The world is ending, the sky is falling garbage makes me want to puke. Suck it up ladies, it isn't going to be easy, and if it was, it wouldn't be football.

[Long Time Fan]

Dude....Back away from the ledge. Cripes. I have been watching this team since their inception and in probably 25 of their seasons I would have been overjoyed with them sitting at 6-4 after 10 games. ]

Wow 4Ever, your post is so sad. I don't think that you will continue to feel this way in the weeks to come. Wear that moniker "4Ever" with a little resolve.

To Tawk's point, I think that we are victims of heightened expectations. Ok, now back to earth.

Pete and John have taken this team as far as they can take it. ........ our team is going to sink to mediocrity and that just sucks.

This is the part of the post that must be countered. Our Seahawks have only been to the summit because of JS and PC. Franchises mire in mediocrity because they either can't find or jettison too early those that are capable of getting a team to the top. This ability to find the proper helmsmen is the scarcest of all critical elements in building a title contender. The single worst thing that the powers that be could do is to cut loose JS or PC. Pointless consideration because Paul Allen would never consider such a move.

Now buck up man! This season's best days are ahead. We are well positioned for years of success. Success may not mean Superbowl titles every year but playoff contenders that can go all the way when the pieces fall into place (Schedule, injuries, hot at right time ect...)

Let us know how you feel in a few weeks.

[HumanCockroach]

This is the part of the post that must be countered

Just that part??? LOL

[Anthony]

Stick a fork in the Seahawks, they are done. I can hear it now, the win in Super Bowl 48 was a fluke, an aberration. One and DONE is what "they" will say.

Sadly, it didn't have to be this way, but the seeds were planted last season, Y'all know what I am talking about so I won't reiterate.

Yeah, whoever said this is now a retool year is correct, but then, who is going to make those retool decisions? Same guys who can't draft an O-Lineman? Same guys who throw away top draft picks as if they mean nothing?? Same guys who trade for injury prone mega pricks???

I feel fortunate to have lived to see our Seahawks to win a Super Bowl, my brother only lived to see them lose one. because I doubt we will see them in the big dance with the current regime in charge. That is a prediction, a prediction I am loathe to make but one I worry may come true. Pete and John have taken this team as far as they can take it. I know people are going to deride me for "jumping off of the bandwagon but I saw the pattern before after 2005. You remember 2005? We all thought they would be back to the Super Bowl under Mike Holmgren but we know now that the powers that be had already missed any opportunity to strengthen the team. That window of opportunity we thought would be still open was in fact closed. That's what I am saying, the window of opportunity that was opened by PC and JS has already been closed because of their failure to draft competently and trade competently. Sure, they got lucky a few times with certain UDFA"s and their 4th.-7th. draft picks but they consistently whiffed with their 1st.-3rd. draft picks and gave away other picks with certain trades that we now scratch our heads at.

Oh, and I now understand why I got so worked up at LTF in his "Trade Wilson for Luck" thread. It was because subconsciously I agreed with it.

What's wrong with Wilson? Well, what's wrong can't be fixed because what is wrong is that he is too short to be QB in the NFL. What's that? he is too short? You don't know what you are talking about 99.9% of you will tell me. Well, I too drank the kool aid qwith the way he played his first two seasons. But, a pattern has now been set and that pattern shows that Wilson can't see his open receivers down field and can't "throw open" receivers because he is TOO SHORT to see defenders that are just licking their chops hoping he does throw the ball. Sure, all QB's need throwing lanes but Wilson doesn't trust his throwing lanes because. here it comes, WILSON IS TOO SHORT!!! Instead Wilson has to wait until he can see that his receiver is open (something we used to accuse T-Jack of doing btw.) and by that time it is too late to throw the ball because the receiver is no longer open. This leads Wilson to do three things, the first is that he will still throw the ball but to the receivers feet or behind them leading to incomplete passes. Wilson will sail the ball leading to an imcomplete pass. 3rd. and most likely he will tuck the ball under his arm and make a great play with his feet. Now, most of us have been blaming the O-Line for not giving Wilson enough time to throw, and while that is the case some of the time the COLD HARD TRUTH is that most of the time they have given Wilson plenty of time but it has been indecision by Wilson himself that has caused the problem. Oh, and there is a fourth thing that happens, Wilson will throw the ball but the defender makes a play on the ball. The only reason Wilson has not had more ints. is because most of the time the defender has either dropped a sure interception ot our receiver knocks the ball away.

Russell Wilson is great, with his feet. Russell Wilson reads defenses as great as PM and TB. Russell Wilson is as great a leader especially at a young age. Unfortunately though Russell Wilson is TOO SHORT TO PLAY QB IN THE NFL and I am sorry if the truth hurts but that is the COLD HARD TRUTH!!!!!

Go ahead, rip me to pieces, I desperately hope I am wrong, but I have a sick feeling I am right and our team is going to sink to mediocrity and that just sucks.

Garbage post no facts all hate worthless.

[Seahawks4Ever]

I am Seahawks4Ever since I don't plan on ever rooting for any other team and I don't have "2nd, & 3rd." teams like some in here do. I also don't play fantasy football so I don't have divided loyalties on game days like some "fans" do. None in here I am sure but I have heard people rooting on certain opponents playing our Seahawks because they are on their fantasy teams on other boards, never in here though.

What I am no longer doing is buying the B.S. that Pete and company are selling. Tom Cable might be good at coaching an O-Lineman but he can't draft one to save his life. Cable is great at turning a D-Lineman into an O-lineman but he can't seem to be able to scout anybody good who actually plays the position in college.

They had a great thing going with their D- line rotation then blow it up yet expect the same production.

I have been waiting ever since Pete got here for two things, a pass rush and a reduction in penalties, Pete has delivered on neither and I have given up him ever providing either.

Russell Wilson, I love the guy, but dude struggles to throw for 200 yards and now is struggling to get over a buck fifty. It is NOT all the O-Line's or receiver's fault. he can't throw over the middle (hardly ever anyway) and is now having trouble throwing out patterns. He does throw those bubble screens though, top notch...

The defense won Super Bowl 48 and the NFC Championship game, left to Wilson and we would still be waiting for the Seahawks to win their first championship.

Did I say I love the guy, I absolutely love Russell Sherman, but I am sick of not having a passing game. Hasselbeck had more 300 passing games in his first year as a starter than RW has had in his first two and a half seasons.

Like I said earlier, I hope I am wrong but if I am not you are going to get a big I told you so from if I am!

[Hawktawk]

I am Seahawks4Ever since I don't plan on ever rooting for any other team and I don't have "2nd, & 3rd." teams like some in here do. I also don't play fantasy football so I don't have divided loyalties on game days like some "fans" do. None in here I am sure but I have heard people rooting on certain opponents playing our Seahawks because they are on their fantasy teams on other boards, never in here though.

What I am no longer doing is buying the B.S. that Pete and company are selling. Tom Cable might be good at coaching an O-Lineman but he can't draft one to save his life. Cable is great at turning a D-Lineman into an O-lineman but he can't seem to be able to scout anybody good who actually plays the position in college.

They had a great thing going with their D- line rotation then blow it up yet expect the same production.

I have been waiting ever since Pete got here for two things, a pass rush and a reduction in penalties, Pete has delivered on neither and I have given up him ever providing either.

Russell Wilson, I love the guy, but dude struggles to throw for 200 yards and now is struggling to get over a buck fifty. It is NOT all the O-Line's or receiver's fault. he can't throw over the middle (hardly ever anyway) and is now having trouble throwing out patterns. He does throw those bubble screens though, top notch...

The defense won Super Bowl 48 and the NFC Championship game, left to Wilson and we would still be waiting for the Seahawks to win their first championship.

Did I say I love the guy, I absolutely love Russell Sherman, but I am sick of not having a passing game. Hasselbeck had more 300 passing games in his first year as a starter than RW has had in his first two and a half seasons.

Like I said earlier, I hope I am wrong but if I am not you are going to get a big I told you so from if I am!

Hasslebeck didn't win a playoff game until his 6th season in Seattle. I loved Hass but Wilson wins games on his own. Hass was never on the level RW is on. And everyone who wants to criticize Wilson's passing numbers ignore the fact that he is the most dangerous dual threat QB in the league. As for last seasons success it is utterly ridiculous to say RW wasn't a huge part of Seattle's wins. He probably should have been the SB MVP. Man you gotta take a deep breath. You remind me of the type of fan I was 20 years ago.

[HumanCockroach]

LOL no "pass rush" delivered. LMFAO to bad you missed all of last season. Cracks me up this guy. Holy sh!t that is insane ( Psst. Seattle had the BEST pass rush in the league, and it wasn't even close). This stuff cracks me up.

[Anthony]

I am Seahawks4Ever since I don't plan on ever rooting for any other team and I don't have "2nd, & 3rd." teams like some in here do. I also don't play fantasy football so I don't have divided loyalties on game days like some "fans" do. None in here I am sure but I have heard people rooting on certain opponents playing our Seahawks because they are on their fantasy teams on other boards, never in here though.

What I am no longer doing is buying the B.S. that Pete and company are selling. Tom Cable might be good at coaching an O-Lineman but he can't draft one to save his life. Cable is great at turning a D-Lineman into an O-lineman but he can't seem to be able to scout anybody good who actually plays the position in college.

They had a great thing going with their D- line rotation then blow it up yet expect the same production.

I have been waiting ever since Pete got here for two things, a pass rush and a reduction in penalties, Pete has delivered on neither and I have given up him ever providing either.

Russell Wilson, I love the guy, but dude struggles to throw for 200 yards and now is struggling to get over a buck fifty. It is NOT all the O-Line's or receiver's fault. he can't throw over the middle (hardly ever anyway) and is now having trouble throwing out patterns. He does throw those bubble screens though, top notch...

The defense won Super Bowl 48 and the NFC Championship game, left to Wilson and we would still be waiting for the Seahawks to win their first championship.

Did I say I love the guy, I absolutely love Russell Sherman, but I am sick of not having a passing game. Hasselbeck had more 300 passing games in his first year as a starter than RW has had in his first two and a half seasons.

Like I said earlier, I hope I am wrong but if I am not you are going to get a big I told you so from if I am!

Ahh yeah first Hass did not have any 300 yards passing games his first year as a starter so that would be wrong. He did in his 2nd year as a starter however he also threw the ball 419 times that year and only played 12 games. And of course though his 2nd year as a starter it was his 4th year in the league.

Now lets look at that. Hass was in a pass first offense, with a passing coach, his oline was ranked 12th in pass blocking, He had Robinson who was a 100 ayd WR, and Engram, and Jackson. All of who are better than what we have now.

Now lets look at when Hass had his 300 yard games in 2002 he had 4 of them and in every game he threw the ball between 36-55 times with an avg of 45 times. Now lets see how many times Wilson got to throw the ball 45 times that would be NONE, ZERO. However despite this Wilson this year alone has 1 game over 300 yards but only threw the ball 36 times to do it, He has gotten over 35 attempts only twice all year. FYI Hass never threw for more than 300 yards with out at least 36 attempts. FYI Hass in 2005 his 2nd best year went over 300 once and he took 38 attempts to do it. IN 2007 his best year he went over 300 twice and he needed 43+ attempts to do it. So lets do some math if Rw got 43 attempts at his 7.79 YPA career avg he would get 335 yards. Hmm he gets the attempts you get the 300 yards Also you need the players, attempts and plays to throw over 300 yards consistently something RW does not have.

To put it in perspective for you if he got the highest YPA so far this year he would need 34 attempts to get 300 yards something he has only gotten twice all year, and oh by the way that QB with the highest YPA is Rodgers who has one of the top WR corps in the NFL and a pass blocking oline ranked higher than ours and a passing offense.

So as I showed you need 34+ attempts to get 300 yards. This offense is not designed (play calling), or equipped (WRs and Oline) for that. Wilson has never avg over 30 attempts a season let alone 34+.

Amazing what happens when you look at the facts huh

[HumanCockroach]

I am Seahawks4Ever since I don't plan on ever rooting for any other team and I don't have "2nd, & 3rd." teams like some in here do. I also don't play fantasy football so I don't have divided loyalties on game days like some "fans" do. None in here I am sure but I have heard people rooting on certain opponents playing our Seahawks because they are on their fantasy teams on other boards, never in here though.

What I am no longer doing is buying the B.S. that Pete and company are selling. Tom Cable might be good at coaching an O-Lineman but he can't draft one to save his life. Cable is great at turning a D-Lineman into an O-lineman but he can't seem to be able to scout anybody good who actually plays the position in college.

They had a great thing going with their D- line rotation then blow it up yet expect the same production.

I have been waiting ever since Pete got here for two things, a pass rush and a reduction in penalties, Pete has delivered on neither and I have given up him ever providing either.

Russell Wilson, I love the guy, but dude struggles to throw for 200 yards and now is struggling to get over a buck fifty. It is NOT all the O-Line's or receiver's fault. he can't throw over the middle (hardly ever anyway) and is now having trouble throwing out patterns. He does throw those bubble screens though, top notch...

The defense won Super Bowl 48 and the NFC Championship game, left to Wilson and we would still be waiting for the Seahawks to win their first championship.

Did I say I love the guy, I absolutely love Russell Sherman, but I am sick of not having a passing game. Hasselbeck had more 300 passing games in his first year as a starter than RW has had in his first two and a half seasons.

Like I said earlier, I hope I am wrong but if I am not you are going to get a big I told you so from if I am!

Big deal. People like you spend the entire time bashing teams/players in hope that you'll be able to do just that ( kind of like the Wilson bashing you did for two seasons, only to fall dormant when he was on his way to winning a SB, and this is simply your way of saying "I told you so" slowly. If Wilson struggles, or flames out, you'll be crowing about it, so what's the difference?).

Guys that bash their team, or coaches, or specific players crack me up. It's the throw enough sh!t at the wall see if anything sticks and yell see I told you so theory.

[monkey]

Unfortunately though Russell Wilson is TOO SHORT TO PLAY QB IN THE NFL and I am sorry if the truth hurts but that is the COLD HARD TRUTH!!!!!

Yeah, clearly he is too short
He hasn't been too short all through his outstanding collegiate career, and he hasn't been too short through the first two seasons of professional football, when he put up the GREATEST FIRST TWO SEASONS BY A QB EVER
and helped the team win a Superbowl in just his second season. But yeah, clearly now suddenly because you've told us all the COLD HARD TRUTH!!!!!, he's too short.
Strangely enough, he is no shorter than Drew Brees or Doug Flutie or Fran Tarkenton who all did quite well to one degree or another, but Wilson...well, COLD HARD TRUTH!!!!
All those stats he's put up, all the wins he's racked up are meaningless, because even though there have been other QB's his size to do it, Seahawks4Ever has told us all the COLD HARD TRUTH!!!!!
Do you have any idea how many teams would KILL to have Wilson QBing their team right now?
Thanks for the laugh though.

[HumanCockroach]

Shouldn't that name be seahawksfan4everonlyifthereisenoughtobitchabout or seahawksfan4everaslongastheyalwayswinmyway ? Maybe to many letters? SMDH.

Truly unfortunate that this hiccup has created an environment where trolls, negative skewed people, and people who get off on trashing the FO or players can once again show their true colors, for a few months they lay dormant, first sign of true adversary and look who comes to the party? Uggh. Back to the good old days, until the Hawks can right the ship.

[monkey]

Shouldn't that name be seahawksfan4everonlyifthereisenoughtobitchabout or seahawksfan4everaslongastheyalwayswinmyway ? Maybe to many letters? SMDH.

Truly unfortunate that this hiccup has created an environment where trolls, negative skewed people, and people who get off on trashing the FO or players can once again show their true colors, for a few months they lay dormant, first sign of true adversary and look who comes to the party? Uggh. Back to the good old days, until the Hawks can right the ship.

Apparently everyone thought that it would just be easy, and that this team would suddenly become invulnerable to injuries, and to the ramifications of the salary cap. So now suddenly Pete Carroll is "selling us BS" and Russell Wilson is "TOO SHORT (and that's the COLD HARD TRUTH!!!!! lol!) and we're just ANGRY that the Seahawks cannot win every single game every single time just because we want them to, etc...

Whatever, I hope they all break their ankles jumping off the bandwagon LOL!

[Hawktawk]

I didn't know how to act coming into this season. Never as a Hawks fan have any of us been in this position, defending champs. And after last years somewhat improbable journey from dark horse favorite to champs this has been trying at times.But that's a good problem. If this regime flames out and goes by the wayside WE STILL GOT ONE!!! And did it in style too... I guess for me its like OBS said earlier. At least they got a Lombardi before i take my dirt nap. Honestly I think this current group of players and FO are far from done regardless of how this year winds up. This team has a lot of winners, heart of a lion type guys. They aren't going down without a fight. I still like their chances doom and gloom be damned. Now if they lose next week the conversation might change but I think they will win next week.The schedule is scary from our perspective but name me the team on the list of the last 6 that is going to feel safe lining up against Seattle in Nov and Dec?Its a scary schedule for our opponents too..........