Aldon Smith at it again

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Re: Aldon Smith at it again

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:28 pm

Lets see where do I begin? WOW. I'm not remotely surprised about Smith. I said he wouldn't change, that he was a danger, a sociopath. Hes been arrested for guns, multiple dui's, harassing a TSA officer, now another vehicular assault involving a teammates girlfriend. He will never learn. I am stunned by the amount of highly intelligent respected Seahawks fans on this board who would even entertain the notion of this complete POS on our roster. GOD NO!!

And one other thing. I have absolutely zero sympathy for JIm Tomsula. It has been reported he actively undermined Harbaugh by going behind his back to owners and lobbied for the job before it was open. Maybe thats why he got hired with absolutely NO experience as a head coach at any level of football. It might also help explain why so many great talented 9ers decided it was time to leave in FA or hang up the cleats. Why get a concussion for this?

If the 9ers never win a game again It wont bother me in the least.
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Re: Aldon Smith at it again

Postby jshawaii22 » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:44 pm

I have absolutely zero sympathy for JIm Tomsula. It has been reported he actively undermined Harbaugh by going behind his back to owners and lobbied for the job before it was open.

Wow, I'm sorry, but that's one load of BS if I ever heard it. I read the SF 49'ers web sites a lot and have never seen that one.

More BS then Aldon's arrest, which after you look past the initial PFT reports and begin to see what seems to have happened, the 3 crimes he was charged with are way out of bounds. The only charge that may stick is leaving the scene of an accident. And he came back 30 minutes or less later, with the Police still there. When he was released and he stopped to be interviewed on the Police Station steps, he didn't seem in the least intoxicate or hung over and that was after only 2 hours. Eyes were open, he looked directly at the cameras, answered all the questions coherently. Maybe that's not the only way to tell, but I've seen drunk and hungover persons quite a lot, and that just didn't look like one. By the way, I'm not justifying any of it. There is probably a lot more to the story then we know, just like Russell, Percy and Doug. We just don't know.
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Re: Aldon Smith at it again

Postby RiverDog » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:18 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:The only charge that may stick is leaving the scene of an accident. And he came back 30 minutes or less later, with the Police still there. When he was released and he stopped to be interviewed on the Police Station steps, he didn't seem in the least intoxicate or hung over and that was after only 2 hours. Eyes were open, he looked directly at the cameras, answered all the questions coherently. Maybe that's not the only way to tell, but I've seen drunk and hungover persons quite a lot, and that just didn't look like one. By the way, I'm not justifying any of it. There is probably a lot more to the story then we know, just like Russell, Percy and Doug. We just don't know.


Did you read Cbob's post that contained the police report? If not, here it is:

On Thursday, August 6, 2015, at about 8:46 PM., Santa Clara Officers were dispatched to Moreland Way to investigate a disturbance involving a collision. On arrival, officers learned Aldon Smith was parking his vehicle and collided with a parked vehicle. After the collision, Smith exited his vehicle and caused additional damage to the parked vehicle with his car door.

Smith then left the area not reporting the collision or leaving his identifying information at the scene. He later returned to the parking area where he was contacted by officers. Smith displayed objective symptoms of being under the influence of an alcoholic beverage. Officers administered a field sobriety test to Smith.


That's not proof, but it is some pretty compelling evidence, and based on his past history, he is unlikely to get the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Aldon Smith at it again

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:41 pm

[quote="jshawaii22"]I have absolutely zero sympathy for JIm Tomsula. It has been reported he actively undermined Harbaugh by going behind his back to owners and lobbied for the job before it was open.

Wow, I'm sorry, but that's one load of BS if I ever heard it. I read the SF 49'ers web sites a lot and have never seen that one.

Well I saw it and I dont think its BS. That truth is that Tomsula somehow made the leap from position coach to HC with no experience as a HC. The rumors were reported around the time of Harbaughs resignation.Sorry if you missed it but dont call me a liar buddy.

The rest of your comments make me wonder if you are part of the idiotic "black lives matter" cops are bad crowd.You absolutely are justifying his behavior and blaming cops.
If Smith were some slob off the street he would be doing hard time by now.
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Re: Aldon Smith at it again

Postby jshawaii22 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:56 am

Black Lives Matter?.. probably to the 200 or so blacks that live here in Paradise? Luckily, you don't have to be politically correct to live here. I don't like to see anyone die without cause. Black, White, Hawaiian, Samoan, Japanese. or whatever. If that's wrong, so be it. I also don't like to see cops killed like the couple that were murdered in that coffee shop, by some jackoff with with a gun.

Since you asked, I've never understood the Supreme Court making the dying process 'humane' -- let 'em die the way they killed. When he pulled the trigger on those cops, his rights should of been cut-off. Firing Squad would work for me. On the other side of the coin, I also think they should tighten up the "Probable Cause" laws. Getting pulled over and then dying because you had a license plate light out, or the cop thinks your Tint is too dark or any number of older "Profiling" laws should all be retooled. They ended it in the Airports for the drug runners, they need to do it on the streets.

As for Tomsula, I would believe the opposite might of happened, that the GM went behind the Coaches back and told him to start preparing to maybe run the team, but not the other way. If that got out, that Tomsula groveled behind the coach's back and then they HIRED him...in a couple of years, when he's fired from the 49'ers he would never get hired by any team, anywhere, anytime again as an assistant coach, which is probably all he could hope for at that point.

By the way RD, so you don't believe that the Police would claim that he was DWI, so the ends justify the means as far as his arrests go? and do you think that they did the field sobriety test that Aldon submitted to without a camera? Where is the video? He also submitted to a blood-test before he left the police station. We'll see

Maybe he really did bang into Kaep's car and bang the door because he was pissed when he found out his ex girl was banging on the QB. Now that's on the SF boards right now.
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Re: Aldon Smith at it again

Postby RiverDog » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:45 am

jshawaii22 wrote:By the way RD, so you don't believe that the Police would claim that he was DWI, so the ends justify the means as far as his arrests go? and do you think that they did the field sobriety test that Aldon submitted to without a camera? Where is the video? He also submitted to a blood-test before he left the police station. We'll see

Maybe he really did bang into Kaep's car and bang the door because he was pissed when he found out his ex girl was banging on the QB. Now that's on the SF boards right now.


When there's a possible DUI arrest in progress, cops usually call for multiple back-ups so they can have several witnesses when the field sobriety test is given as it is a subjective test. Displaying objective signs mean things like slurred speech, breath, and redness of eyes, which also would have been witnessed by several. It occurred in a parking lot at 8:46pm, so we can assume that there were multiple bystanders, all equipped with cell phone video that cops are all too aware could cost them if they make the simplest procedural mistake. He was booked into jail, which unless he refused, means he was given a BAC. Fabricating an arrest at that point would have taken the cooperation of a number of officers, all of whom would be putting their jobs at risk.

There's also the issue of the vandalism charge. Vandalism means his actions were intentional, so they must have some sort of evidence, like an eye witness(es) or security camera footage, to base their charges on, which would mean they probably can link that evidence with the DUI charge.

And lastly, the Niners didn't waste any time in releasing him, so they must have felt that the evidence was very compelling if they acted that quickly in dumping an extremely valuable asset without so much as attempting to trade him.

All of this makes me think that although it is possible that the cops conspired to cover up an arrest, I feel it is highly unlikely.
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Re: Aldon Smith at it again

Postby Hawktawk » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:50 am

JSHawaii22
Thats a reasonable response and mirrors my sentiments. My thing with cop bashing is that we fail to account for the fact that for many of them all they encounter is violent POS on a daily basis. Sometimes they snap. Sometimes they get a quick trigger. Who can blame them? They want to go home at night. They are enraged by the lawless squalor in some of these neighborhoods.They are targets and many live in fear.Now we are attacking their self esteem by painting them all with the same brush because of a few incompetent cops or bad apples.

The problem isn't cops, its jackwagons like Smith who seem to have a chronic problem following the law. X50 in the inner city.
Quit bashing cops people the lawlessness in this nation has made them who they are.
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Re: Aldon Smith at it again

Postby Hawktown » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:12 am

Hawktawk wrote:JSHawaii22
Thats a reasonable response and mirrors my sentiments. My thing with cop bashing is that we fail to account for the fact that for many of them all they encounter is violent POS on a daily basis. Sometimes they snap. Sometimes they get a quick trigger. Who can blame them? They want to go home at night. They are enraged by the lawless squalor in some of these neighborhoods.They are targets and many live in fear.Now we are attacking their self esteem by painting them all with the same brush because of a few incompetent cops or bad apples.

The problem isn't cops, its jackwagons like Smith who seem to have a chronic problem following the law. X50 in the inner city.
Quit bashing cops people the lawlessness in this nation has made them who they are.


I could also say that the overly applied laws have made the people who they are and feel the way they do toward authority! Not defending smith here at all BTW.
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