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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby RiverDog » Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:48 am

Hawktawk wrote:No doubt RD. Manning is one of the best. But a good sign for the Hawks is that his postseason performance is not nearly as impressive as his regular season record. Hes a career .500 guy in the postseason who was possibly the worst player on the roster of many loaded teams in critical moments in the postseason. He seems looser this year and so we will see. The Chargers diagnosed him fairly well this year. Still to compare him to some of the stiffs Seattle has faced this year is ridiculous. So we will see. But I am certain that the Seattle Seahawks are well aware and prepared to deal with the challenges he represents


Agreed, which is the main reason why so many people are characterizing this game as being the biggest of Manning's career, suggesting that he needs another SB win to cement his legacy as the greatest QB ever.

Don't get me wrong, I'm optimistic that we're going to shut him down. I like our matchups between their WR's and our DB's. So long as the refs allow our DB's to play the aggressive style we're known for, as they have in all the previous playoff games, and if we can get consistent pressure by rushing 4, I think we shut down Peyton...plus we've been damn good at neutralizing opponent's running attacks lately, save for the scrambling and read options Kaepernick burned us with, something that obviously won't be a worry in this game. In that respect, Denver will be an easier team to defend than the Niners.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:17 am

RiverDog wrote:
HumanCockroach wrote:And plenty of great QB's we have made look pedestrian, works both ways. You can say those qb's looked great, my feeling is if you actually looked at what they produced, you might be surprised. No QB, and I repeat NO QB has created a "nightmare" for the Seattle defense, including but not limited to the examples you listed.

I have little doubt that Manning is better than some of those QB's (Mike Glennon, Kellen Clemens, and Matt Schwab), maybe even better than all of them, however, I know what I have seen, sometimes expectations skew opinions, and in this case, I believe that is what has happened with you, you expect greatness, and as such, actual ok games look far better than they actually were. There is a REASON that Brady had a passer rating BELOW 70, there is a reason, the same happened to Rodgers, Romo etc, etc, etc, and it wasn't good fortune.


Manning is "maybe" better than Glennon, Clemens, and Schwab? LOL! You have to be the only person on the planet that harbors this doubt.

It's one thing to make quarterbacks like Brees, Brady, Rodgers, and Romo look pedestrian IN OUR HOUSE with the benefit of the biggest home field advantage in the league and quite another to make a quarterback who is perhaps the greatest to have ever played the game look pedestrian on a neutral field in what many are calling the biggest game of his career.

Don't kid yourself. This is going to be the biggest challenge this defense has faced in the 4 years Pete has been here. I'm with you in expressing confidence that we're going to meet that challenge, but let's not go overboard by equating Peyton Manning with the aforementioned "pedestrian" quarterbacks.


Sorry, I meant maybe better than the exceptional QB's the Hawks have made pedestrian ( you know Rodgers, Bree's and the like) don't remember posting Glennon etc, I was referencing the great QB's the Hawks have made look bad, not your silly assertion of worry over the examples you posted.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. The difference you and I have is the worry, I don't spend time worrying about QB's, simply don't do it, worry and fret is in your nature, not mine. Based on what I have seen of this defense ANY QB in history is going to have a subpar game, and that doesn't change for me, based on the points scored by the Broncos. Manning CAN win, but shred this D? Nah, not going to happen.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby monkey » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:22 am

You know, something that hasn't been talked about much, even though the media tried to make a mountain out of a mole hill after Richard Sherman's piece in MMQB rating the QB's by intelligence, is the fact that Manning's arm strength has in fact gone the way of the dodo.

They can all laugh about his "wounded ducks" and dismiss them as "who cares so long as they arrive on time and at the right place" (which I at least partly agree with BTW), BUT there's a problem with so quickly dismissing this fact.
You see, when we were facing Colin Kaepernick, we actually had to account for two things that Manning cannot do that Kaep can: 1. Obviously Kaep can run like nobody's business, and 2. Kaep throws HARD! His fastballs are insane, just ask Earl Thomas who actually tipped the ball that ended up as a touchdown because of how hard that ball was thrown. That was some serious heat, and is something Manning no longer has.

Since Manning can neither run, nor throw hard, what he will have to do to beat us is dink and dunk.
He cannot challenge Earl Thomas deep the way Kaepernick can, and we don't need to use a spy to account for him either. Those are big advantages for Seattle's defense. We free up an extra defender, no longer needing to use a spy, AND Earl can be used more freely to come up and defend passes as well.

Manning may very well dink and dunk us to death, he will have to settle for taking whatever we give him, time after time, always throwing to the most open player, but he CANNOT make any mistakes, or those wounded ducks underneath WILL end up going the other way!
Can he win by dink and dunking us to death? Yes, he's certainly capable of that!
That is in fact how he'll have to do it if he wants to win, because he HAS no other way of doing it.
If he tries challenging our secondary by making tough throws into tight windows, then he will throw INT's.

Now here's where the Seahawks defense has yet another huge advantage, the philosophy of our defense, and the reason that we consistently use the cover 3 single safety deep hybrid look we use, is because our defense is DESIGNED to allow underneath stuff if a QB is patient, while taking away the deep stuff and tightening up in the red zone.
So you can move the chains between the twenties on Seattle, teams have done it all year, but the yards that QB's put up against our defense means spit, because we ALLOW it, in order to NOT allow deep stuff and touchdowns in the red zone.
What we make QB's do is be patient, throw more often, giving our defense more time and chances to make stops on third downs, make big hits, and make big picks or fumbles.

My point is, our defense is DESIGNED to match up with QB's like Manning! Manning relies on timing, relies on his receivers being in the right place at the right time...our defense STOPS that by being more physical than any other.
So while he is the most heady QB I've ever seen play the game, and he won't make a lot of mistakes, he ALSO won't make many BIG plays either, he won't because he cannot throw with enough velocity to throw into tight windows, and because he won't be able to throw deep with Earl Thomas roaming around deep, he just doesn't have the arm strength to do that.
He's going to have to be patient and wait for our defense to make a mistake in coverage, so that he can exploit it. Meanwhile, our defense will be doing the EXACT same thing, patiently allowing him to dink and dunk, waiting for him to make a mistake, or to throw one of his wounded ducks into a window just a little too tight, so we can take it back the other way.

This is why I've been saying all season long, there's not another team in the NFL better suited to destroy the Broncos.

And don't even get me started on how much of an advantage we have over Denver's defense, when they are among the leagues WORST at tackling, especially in their secondary, and we have the top THREE players in the NFL at breaking tackles and getting yards after contact, Lynch, Tate and Harvin.

I've been pulling for the Broncos all year because of the way we match up with them, HOPING they make the Superbowl so we can win, AND no one can say we got lucky and played a bad team (though if they knew just how poorly they match up with us, they might rethink that!).
Everyone will have to admit that we ran the gauntlet, we beat the Saints, then the Niners, who are easily the best two NFC teams after Seattle, (we also beat the Panthers in game one) and finally we will beat Denver.
No one will be able to say the best team didn't win. No one will be able to say we didn't beat the best to become the best.

Small aside: It's my opinion that the Niners, would have beaten the Broncos, probably quite easily, if they had matched up with them instead of us, because they are the one team in the league most similar to the Seattle Seahawks, and they are the second best team in the league hands down. NOT the Broncos! The Broncos would have had a difficult time beating either the Saints or the Panthers if they had played in the NFC, they're not as good as the media would have you believe they are or as most people think.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:25 am

monkey wrote:You know, something that hasn't been talked about much, even though the media tried to make a mountain out of a mole hill after Richard Sherman's piece in MMQB rating the QB's by intelligence, is the fact that Manning's arm strength has in fact gone the way of the dodo.

They can all laugh about his "wounded ducks" and dismiss them as "who cares so long as they arrive on time and at the right place" (which I at least partly agree with BTW), BUT there's a problem with so quickly dismissing this fact.
You see, when we were facing Colin Kaepernick, we actually had to account for two things that Manning cannot do that Kaep can: 1. Obviously Kaep can run like nobody's business, and 2. Kaep throws HARD! His fastballs are insane, just ask Earl Thomas who actually tipped the ball that ended up as a touchdown because of how hard that ball was thrown. That was some serious heat, and is something Manning no longer has.

Since Manning can neither run, nor throw hard, what he will have to do to beat us is dink and dunk.
He cannot challenge Earl Thomas deep the way Kaepernick can, and we don't need to use a spy to account for him either. Those are big advantages for Seattle's defense. We free up an extra defender, no longer needing to use a spy, AND Earl can be used more freely to come up and defend passes as well.

Manning may very well dink and dunk us to death, he will have to settle for taking whatever we give him, time after time, always throwing to the most open player, but he CANNOT make any mistakes, or those wounded ducks underneath WILL end up going the other way!
Can he win by dink and dunking us to death? Yes, he's certainly capable of that!
That is in fact how he'll have to do it if he wants to win, because he HAS no other way of doing it.
If he tries challenging our secondary by making tough throws into tight windows, then he will throw INT's.

Now here's where the Seahawks defense has yet another huge advantage, the philosophy of our defense, and the reason that we consistently use the cover 3 single safety deep hybrid look we use, is because our defense is DESIGNED to allow underneath stuff if a QB is patient, while taking away the deep stuff and tightening up in the red zone.
So you can move the chains between the twenties on Seattle, teams have done it all year, but the yards that QB's put up against our defense means spit, because we ALLOW it, in order to NOT allow deep stuff and touchdowns in the red zone.
What we make QB's do is be patient, throw more often, giving our defense more time and chances to make stops on third downs, make big hits, and make big picks or fumbles.

My point is, our defense is DESIGNED to match up with QB's like Manning! Manning relies on timing, relies on his receivers being in the right place at the right time...our defense STOPS that by being more physical than any other.
So while he is the most heady QB I've ever seen play the game, and he won't make a lot of mistakes, he ALSO won't make many BIG plays either, he won't because he cannot throw with enough velocity to throw into tight windows, and because he won't be able to throw deep with Earl Thomas roaming around deep, he just doesn't have the arm strength to do that.
He's going to have to be patient and wait for our defense to make a mistake in coverage, so that he can exploit it. Meanwhile, our defense will be doing the EXACT same thing, patiently allowing him to dink and dunk, waiting for him to make a mistake, or to throw one of his wounded ducks into a window just a little too tight, so we can take it back the other way.

This is why I've been saying all season long, there's not another team in the NFL better suited to destroy the Broncos.

And don't even get me started on how much of an advantage we have over Denver's defense, when they are among the leagues WORST at tackling, especially in their secondary, and we have the top THREE players in the NFL at breaking tackles and getting yards after contact, Lynch, Tate and Harvin.

I've been pulling for the Broncos all year because of the way we match up with them, HOPING they make the Superbowl so we can win, AND no one can say we got lucky and played a bad team (though if they knew just how poorly they match up with us, they might rethink that!).
Everyone will have to admit that we ran the gauntlet, we beat the Saints, then the Niners, who are easily the best two NFC teams after Seattle, (we also beat the Panthers in game one) and finally we will beat Denver.
No one will be able to say the best team didn't win. No one will be able to say we didn't beat the best to become the best.

Small aside: It's my opinion that the Niners, would have beaten the Broncos, probably quite easily, if they had matched up with them instead of us, because they are the one team in the league most similar to the Seattle Seahawks, and they are the second best team in the league hands down. NOT the Broncos! The Broncos would have had a difficult time beating either the Saints or the Panthers if they had played in the NFC, they're not as good as the media would have you believe they are or as most people think.


This is one hell of a great post, perhaps the best post in Monkeys long history. Worth a second read.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby Hawktawk » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:46 pm

Looking at Denver's #s they have definitely played better on defense the last 4 games, not giving up more than 17 points in any of them. They were also respectable against the run giving up 101 PG for the season. I do not underestimate their ability. Also one more Caveat. Manning will not be running around but I could see something like a 39 naked bootleg in a goal-line situation, simply because its the last thing to expect. I hope so Id love to see Manning get absolutely lit up a half dozen times. If that happens its ours.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby monkey » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:02 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Looking at Denver's #s they have definitely played better on defense the last 4 games, not giving up more than 17 points in any of them. They were also respectable against the run giving up 101 PG for the season. I do not underestimate their ability. Also one more Caveat. Manning will not be running around but I could see something like a 39 naked bootleg in a goal-line situation, simply because its the last thing to expect. I hope so Id love to see Manning get absolutely lit up a half dozen times. If that happens its ours.

Denver's defense has played just well enough for four games...that's not exactly a ringing endorsement.
I would say that, they HAD to play better because what they were doing beforehand was nowhere NEAR good enough to win in the playoffs.

Don't make the mistake so many are making of looking at recent trends and trying to project anything based on that, trends are just trends, they don't necessarily mean ANYTHING.
Trends end as quickly as they start, especially when teams run up against the Seahawks!
Just ask the Saints, and the Niners, BOTH of whom were the NFL's hottest team when we beat them.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby Eaglehawk » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:31 pm

monkey wrote:
Hawktawk wrote:Looking at Denver's #s they have definitely played better on defense the last 4 games, not giving up more than 17 points in any of them. They were also respectable against the run giving up 101 PG for the season. I do not underestimate their ability. Also one more Caveat. Manning will not be running around but I could see something like a 39 naked bootleg in a goal-line situation, simply because its the last thing to expect. I hope so Id love to see Manning get absolutely lit up a half dozen times. If that happens its ours.

Denver's defense has played just well enough for four games...that's not exactly a ringing endorsement.
I would say that, they HAD to play better because what they were doing beforehand was nowhere NEAR good enough to win in the playoffs.

Don't make the mistake so many are making of looking at recent trends and trying to project anything based on that, trends are just trends, they don't necessarily mean ANYTHING.
Trends end as quickly as they start, especially when teams run up against the Seahawks!
Just ask the Saints, and the Niners, BOTH of whom were the NFL's hottest team when we beat them.


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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby RiverDog » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:46 pm

Sorry, I meant maybe better than the exceptional QB's the Hawks have made pedestrian ( you know Rodgers, Bree's and the like) don't remember posting Glennon etc, I was referencing the great QB's the Hawks have made look bad, not your silly assertion of worry over the examples you posted.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. The difference you and I have is the worry, I don't spend time worrying about QB's, simply don't do it, worry and fret is in your nature, not mine. Based on what I have seen of this defense ANY QB in history is going to have a subpar game, and that doesn't change for me, based on the points scored by the Broncos. Manning CAN win, but shred this D? Nah, not going to happen.


Actually I'm the one that should be apologizing. I should have deduced that you mis-spoke and I shouldn't have rubbed your nose in something that was an obvious slip up.

You are right about me fretting about the opposing QB. Like you, I like our matchup in this game, and there is a school of thought that says Manning and the Broncos will be easier to prepare for than Kaepernick and the Niners as we don't have to worry about Manning running for 100+ yards. We won't have to worry about putting a spy on him, which means one more pass rusher or one more DB than we had when we played the Niners. He also doesn't have as good an OL and he doesn't have Frank Gore to hand the ball off to (sorry, Cbob, but Moreno isn't what I call a "great back").

But if we screw up anything at all, Manning is going to find it and exploit it like no one else can. That's what I'm worried about. Our defense is going to have to play a nearly perfect game.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby monkey » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:01 pm

RiverDog wrote: Our defense is going to have to play a nearly perfect game.

That's just what I was thinking Manning would need to beat this awesome defense, a nearly perfect game.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:12 pm

RiverDog wrote:
Sorry, I meant maybe better than the exceptional QB's the Hawks have made pedestrian ( you know Rodgers, Bree's and the like) don't remember posting Glennon etc, I was referencing the great QB's the Hawks have made look bad, not your silly assertion of worry over the examples you posted.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. The difference you and I have is the worry, I don't spend time worrying about QB's, simply don't do it, worry and fret is in your nature, not mine. Based on what I have seen of this defense ANY QB in history is going to have a subpar game, and that doesn't change for me, based on the points scored by the Broncos. Manning CAN win, but shred this D? Nah, not going to happen.


Actually I'm the one that should be apologizing. I should have deduced that you mis-spoke and I shouldn't have rubbed your nose in something that was an obvious slip up.

You are right about me fretting about the opposing QB. Like you, I like our matchup in this game, and there is a school of thought that says Manning and the Broncos will be easier to prepare for than Kaepernick and the Niners as we don't have to worry about Manning running for 100+ yards. We won't have to worry about putting a spy on him, which means one more pass rusher or one more DB than we had when we played the Niners. He also doesn't have as good an OL and he doesn't have Frank Gore to hand the ball off to (sorry, Cbob, but Moreno isn't what I call a "great back").

But if we screw up anything at all, Manning is going to find it and exploit it like no one else can. That's what I'm worried about. Our defense is going to have to play a nearly perfect game.


I agree if they screw up, Manning will find it, and attack it. I have immense respect for Manning, please don't mistake my confidence for not doing so. Just IMHO, every QB in the NFL ( including Manning) are going to have a "lesser" performance. Maybe that means less than 300 and only 2 versus 400 and 7, or whatever, but for me, it boils down to this defense "rises to the occasion" and this is THE occasion. Even IF he finds that weakness, the Hawk defense WILL respond, it's what they have done for two years.... And I believe they will do it again.

I find it fascinating that people believe the Broncos scoring will go up over what they have averaged against MEDIOCRE to bad defenses they have faced the last 6 weeks. For all the fretting, Seattle has averaged 23.8 ( against ALL TOP 10 D'S) while Denver averaged 25.8 against bottom half D's. To me it isn't hard to see Seattles total going UP and Denver's going DOWN.....

Hence my prediction Seahawks 33 Denver 24.

( by the way, I wasn't to upset with getting my "nose rubbed in it" as it was me that erroneously posted that. Also sorry I was a little snide in my response, I did try to be polite, but at this point I am getting pretty amped)

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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby RiverDog » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:14 pm

monkey wrote:
RiverDog wrote: Our defense is going to have to play a nearly perfect game.

That's just what I was thinking Manning would need to beat this awesome defense, a nearly perfect game.


Would it be fair to say that the truth probably lies somewhere in between?
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby monkey » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:34 pm

RiverDog wrote:
monkey wrote:
RiverDog wrote: Our defense is going to have to play a nearly perfect game.

That's just what I was thinking Manning would need to beat this awesome defense, a nearly perfect game.


Would it be fair to say that the truth probably lies somewhere in between?


NO!

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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby Hawktawk » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:41 pm

The truth of the matter is that the Donks haven't cracked the 30 point barrier since blowing out the titans in week 14. At that point Manning came out and said anyone who didn't think he could play in cold weather could kiss his ass. They got beat at home in week 15 and have scored in the mid 20's for a month despite playing some pedestrian teams. The more I research the better I feel.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby Eaglehawk » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:32 am

NO!
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HIlarious! Monkey being Monkey :lol:
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby Futureite » Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:55 am

HumanCockroach wrote:
Futureite wrote:
HumanCockroach wrote:Your definition of "nightmare" and mine vary greatly. How quickly people equate points to success in today's world. Ryan didn't have some amazing game, nor did Luck. They played "well" based on what this D can do, however BOTH had horrible halves against this D,don't expect you to remember it, but that is indeed what happened. Brees threw for 300 + yards on them as well in the playoffs, course he had 79 or something like it headed into the fourth quarter, suppose he was a nightmare as well? In that D has given up over 24 points in something like 4 of there last 52 games, you figure it out....


And how many of those 52 games were played on a nuetral field against an O that put up over 600 pts? You have a hell of a D, but there's no D on earth that is going to stop them if you keep giving Peyton the ball. Just heard Herm Edwards talking about his Eagle D of the 1980 season that gave up 13.6 ppg and was the league's best and could not stop Oakland. The Seahawks are not the 2000 Ravens. I am picking them becauae they are the better all around team - O, D and ST. If they rely on their D to win this though I can almost gurantee they will lose IMO.


Whatever. The Seahawks have been proving you wrong for two years, what's one more game? The defense doesn't NEED to stop him, just slow him down ( which they HAVE been doing regularly week in and week out for a LONG time). Use whatever excuse you want to use, to express their "neutral field issues" with Manning, we'll all get to see. My guess would be he will still throw for 300 and probably 2tds ( a good game by this defenses standard for an offensive player) my guess is though he will also turn the ball over 2 or 3 times, which in my book, isn't a "nightmare" as for the Ravens D comparison, you are right, they are actually BETTER ( only team since 85' bears to lead in all three major statiscal Some of what Kap said today is rididiculous ) and doing so in an era where it is skewed to "help" the offense score as much as possible. Denver will score less than they average, the Seattle O will score more than they average, and Lynch starting fast really matters little in the equation. He typically doesn't, he beats up a D and then tears their heart out, you have seen it enough, you would think you would remeber[/quote

Better than a Ravens D that in the postseason didn't allow a TD and gave up around 200 yds in 4 postseason.games. Lol you go to such lengths to prove everything is "the best". It just gets comical sometimes. But whatever.

The Hawks have not been proving me wrong, they've been proving me right beginning with the 2012 gane I picked them to beat the Pats. They are proving me right prib 80% of the time, and though I was wrong, my prediction of a Niner win by a fg in the NFCCCG was a HELL if a lot closer than nearly every prediction on this board, even right down to total pts scored. Which proves again that my judgment is far less clouded by geography than yours or anyone else that's called me out here.

Yes, I am picking Seattle by 10+. If I am wrong I am wrong. Seattle 36 Denver 21. That IS my pick. But yes, if Lynch does not get going, Peyton will dominate, game set match. No way on god's green earth your D can slow him down if your O does not at least string together a couple chain moving drives within the first 2 qrts. If you rely on your D, you lose. Period. I think Seattle wins in a total team effort, bolstered by great STs.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby RiverDog » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:00 am

( by the way, I wasn't to upset with getting my "nose rubbed in it" as it was me that erroneously posted that. Also sorry I was a little snide in my response, I did try to be polite, but at this point I am getting pretty amped)

GO HAWKS!


I'm getting pretty amped, too. No true 12th man wouldn't be amped up about now. As soon as my eyes opened this morning, I thought Super Bowl.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby monkey » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:53 am

My prediction has changed a few times as we get nearer the game, and as I realize more that when you put a #1 vs a #1 almost never do they cancel each other out, one of the other breaks, and it usually leads to a blow out.
My prediction is almost exactly what Futureites is...WTF...but he's right, we're going to win by more than 10.
Hell if it were the Niners playing, I'd have them EASILY beating the Broncos by ten +. The Niners, no matter how much I hate them, are easily the second best team in football right now, and when playing at home....

I honestly feel that if the Broncos had played in the NFC this year, they'd have won maybe ten games. Teams like the Saints and Panthers are just as good as the Broncos are, and the Niners IMO are a helluva lot better. That Niners team really is ridiculously good! Gotta give it to them! But that just goes to show how good this Seahawks team really is. We lose sight of what they've done this year, because the media wants us to focus only on the playoffs or the more recent games.

Seahawks 37 Broncos 22
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby Eaglehawk » Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:06 am

RiverDog wrote:
( by the way, I wasn't to upset with getting my "nose rubbed in it" as it was me that erroneously posted that. Also sorry I was a little snide in my response, I did try to be polite, but at this point I am getting pretty amped)

GO HAWKS!


I'm getting pretty amped, too. No true 12th man wouldn't be amped up about now. As soon as my eyes opened this morning, I thought Super Bowl.

Well Im going to sleep now. But when I wake up I will be thinking SUPER BOWL!!!
Enjoy the game!!
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Postby THX-1138 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:00 pm

This topic sure looks like the work of genius.
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Re: Finally, more people pointing out the elephant in the ro

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:04 pm

monkey wrote:Denver's defense is just NOT that good! http://www.fieldgulls.com/football-breakdowns/2014/1/30/5358638/super-bowl-2014-48-broncos-defense-seahawks-nfl-terrance-knighton
I don't care what the bobbleheads are trying to convince everyone of, (seriously had anyone even heard of "Pot Roast" before he got a sack on a broken play, and it turned out his nickname was sort of funny??? Exactly!) the Broncos defense vs. the Seahawks offense, (a top ten offense BTW) is a HUGE mismatch favoring Seattle!!!

Now when some idiot starts telling you how easy this game will be for Denver, because of how terrific their defense really is, you can just link that article from Field Gulls. It breaks it down very well. It's a terrific read!


I have to say, Monkey, you were dead on with your observations/prediction.
I had my doubts, but they were proven wrong by half way through the first quarter.
Good call.
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