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Well, We Now Know the $$$ -- 25m

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:07 pm
by jshawaii22
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -a-figure/

From Russell himself. Didn't exactly say it was the top, or his demand, but it came from his mouth. I'll take it as a demand or where they are at. I think if that's a average over 5 years, it's easy to understand the teams belief that it's too much. That's tough on the Cap, but if the Cap goes up 10+ million a year, he eats it for the next few years. And to those that revile that this may be PFT, it came in an interview with Russell and ESPN, so it's not that easy to blow off.

js

Re: Well, We Now Know the $$$ -- 25m

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:44 pm
by NorthHawk
Not so sure he meant that as his goal or demand.
I don't know him, but some people will throw a seemingly high figure to make a point.
I'm sure he wouldn't turn it down, but I'm not convinced that is what he wants or expects.

Then again, it might have been their opening bid in this process so he used that number.

Re: Well, We Now Know the $$$ -- 25m

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:48 pm
by jshawaii22
I don't know either. But, he mentioned 1.5m in the same sentence and Russell, he's a very, very smart young man. An interview like this that he had time to prep for... sorry, I'm tilting to 25m being said for a specific reason. It also could mean that his agent is asking for more and Russell was communicating indirectly to JS to let him know the 'floor'. Who knows?

js

Re: Well, We Now Know the $$$ -- 25m

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:52 pm
by NorthHawk
If they had put 25 million in their opening proposal, it would be something that wouldn't shock the FO, however starting proposals aren't normally what they realistically expect to get.

Re: Well, We Now Know the $$$ -- 25m

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:21 am
by RiverDog
NorthHawk wrote:If they had put 25 million in their opening proposal, it would be something that wouldn't shock the FO, however starting proposals aren't normally what they realistically expect to get.


Yea, that's just it. Negotiations start out very high on the one side, very low on the other, and after a series of give and take, they end up somewhere in-between. Besides, as the article pointed out, Russell could have just plucked a number out of the air without giving it too much thought, so I won't agree with the OP that "we now know the $$$".

Plus there's other details besides the annual number, in particular, the term and the amount of the guarantee.

Re: Well, We Now Know the $$$ -- 25m

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:38 am
by c_hawkbob
jshawaii22 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/29/russell-wilson-mentions-a-figure/

From Russell himself. Didn't exactly say it was the top, or his demand, but it came from his mouth. I'll take it as a demand or where they are at. I think if that's a average over 5 years, it's easy to understand the teams belief that it's too much. That's tough on the Cap, but if the Cap goes up 10+ million a year, he eats it for the next few years. And to those that revile that this may be PFT, it came in an interview with Russell and ESPN, so it's not that easy to blow off.

js


You really took that to be a target per-year figure? I think he's talking about just next year: "No matter how much I’m getting paid, whether it’s $25 million or $1.5 million. I’ll be ready to go" ... in 2015. $25m salary plus signing bonus if a deal is done seems a pretty conservative figure no matter the rest of the contract structure.

Besides, what is most clear is his point that he'll be the same guy on the field regardless of contract status. (I'd expect nothing less)

So many people making so much of so little actually said ...

Re: Well, We Now Know the $$$ -- 25m

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:42 am
by burrrton
I think he's talking about just next year: "No matter how much I’m getting paid, whether it’s $25 million or $1.5 million. I’ll be ready to go" ... in 2015.


Yeah, watch the video- that number was just some theoretical 'off the top of my head' maximum to bookend the range of possible salaries.

Just because he picked a realistic number rather than saying "whether I'm making $1.5M or a hundred trillion" doesn't indicate it's any more of a 'demand' of his.

RW, Schneider, and Carroll- just get a contract negotiated and signed already so we can quit talking about this.

Re: Well, We Now Know the $$$ -- 25m

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:30 am
by Anthony
c_hawkbob wrote:
You really took that to be a target per-year figure? I think he's talking about just next year: "No matter how much I’m getting paid, whether it’s $25 million or $1.5 million. I’ll be ready to go" ... in 2015. $25m salary plus signing bonus if a deal is done seems a pretty conservative figure no matter the rest of the contract structure.

Besides, what is most clear is his point that he'll be the same guy on the field regardless of contract status. (I'd expect nothing less)

So many people making so much of so little actually said ...


More of the same nothing but people reading into stuff, conjecture and assumptions.