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Sherman at a loss for words

Postby #37 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:29 am

Talk with us, Richard, is what I keep hearing. Man, take this time to reflect, and then walk the walk. Talk is just that. - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2198 ... o-chargers

What Richard did say, drew negative feedback from troll land- http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/09/m ... apasmurfss
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby RiverDog » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:41 am

#37 wrote:Talk with us, Richard, is what I keep hearing. Man, take this time to reflect, and then walk the walk. Talk is just that. - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2198 ... o-chargers

What Richard did say, drew negative feedback from troll land- http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/09/m ... apasmurfss


I asked this on another forum and didn't get an answer: As shown in the video above, Sherman is caught doing a complete 360 in biting for a very slight fake to the sideline, creating tons of separation between him and the receiver. He looked like Russell Wilson avoiding a pass rush, and he did it more than once. WTF is he doing? That wasn't a good enough fake to get him to bite that hard. Was he expecting inside help or something? Gawd, he looked awful.

As far as the cat getting his tongue, it serves him right. Maybe he'll learn his lesson and not use every single opportunity to jack his jaws to the nearest open mike. That was the worst games I've seen him play since he's been with us, and he has a lot of making up to do in terms of his quality of play if he wants to re-establish himself as the preeminent corner in the game today.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby HumanCockroach » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:40 am

I agree it was indeed Sherman's worst performance as a Hawk, and I also agree he should have bit the bullet and talked afterwards. That said, what kind of talent are you talking about when a corner is tragetted six times, allows three catches for under forty yards? It is saying something when that performance is his "worst game by far". Sherman doesn't have the greatest footwork ( something I have mentioned numerous times in various threads, his hips aren't fluid) however, he is still the best corner in this league, of that I have little doubt.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby burrrton » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:51 am

Things I knew were coming:

1. Sherman was going to have a bad game.
2. People were going to LET HIM HAVE IT when it happened.

Comes with the territory when you're a talker.

Now let's see if Sunday was a 120 degree anomaly or something we're going to have to get used to.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby Long Time Fan » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:09 am

If there were one player who was primed to stumble at some point this season, it was to be Sherman. The NFC championship aftermath, Madden cover, Espy's, contract, et al; all pretty heady stuff. Pride surely comes before the stumble. While loving his play, I have never much cared for his talk. For example, that he feels the need to call out the likes of Bayless and Crabtree, I attribute to his youth (26yo). But once you purport yourself as a talker and then you fall silent when you trip when tested, you will be called out for your shrinkage.

Part of the fun of center stage is watching these performers grow into men. Just as RS was most likely to stumble at some point this year, I think he too is most likely to recover. By career's end, I think he will be more statesman than bombastic lightening rod.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby Hawktawk » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:17 am

Ive been on the shut up and play bandwagon for a while and Ive caught plenty of flak for taking that position. I was embarrassed as a fan that loquacious Sherm wasn't man enough to face the music and I agree with RD that maybe it will be good for Sherman and help him learn to zip it and play.

Officially the stat line was 4 for 4 on passes targeting Sherman according to an article I read on Fox Sports. He gave up first downs on almost all of them. He looked silly and got abused Sunday and bypassing the microphone then skirmishing on Twitter talking about yards and explosive plays made him look even more foolish.

The bulls eye is big enough guys! It aint 2013 anymore and people are fed up with the cocky non stop trash talk.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby HumanCockroach » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:35 am

Interesting, everything I've read has it At 3 for 6, and I guarantee it wasn't four for four, as Sherman knocked away a pass in the endzone ( the one time they tested him over seven yards) and a second pass was thrown over the receivers head out of bounds against him as well, so to me, that is simply inaccurate, attention grabbing stuff.

http://beta.sportingnews.com/article/46 ... google.com

Somehow, Sherman was still the fourth highest rated Corner last week according to PFT which doesn't in the least sound like He couldn't cover anyone. The article does mention Seattle being poor inside ten yards( does anyone question that? SD dumped the ball off all day, and seldom threw the ball further downfieldown field than ten or twelve yards).
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby kalibane » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:17 am

That's the defense's M/O. They give up underneath stuff but not the RAC. That's what killed them Sunday all the RAC yards they gave up. Those 3rd and 9s when they'd complete the play underneath short of the marker but the play ends up going for 15 and extending the drive.

Rivers played great, made no mistakes, defense was exhausted. This is what happens when you don't execute.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby HumanCockroach » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:00 pm

Yep, this defense is based on "swarming" to the ball, and Sunday, they weren't doing that well. They ran more blitzes than typical with Wagner, Wright, Irvin and Smith, and lacked a short presence within the first ten yards.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby kalibane » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:02 pm

Wright also struggled big time in coverage. I've never seen that before. Usually he is awesome at smothering TEs but both he and Kam seemed like they were always a step behind Gates.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby obiken » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:45 pm

The problem is the loss of WT3, cost us our depth, and Richard did bring some of this on himself. There are a few that can walk the walk and talk the talk. Ali, being one of them. Sherman was classless in not showing up for the media after the game. However, he did not get torched. IF they want to throw his way as a hawks fan, I say, go ahead make my day. As Matt Staub how that worked out for him.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby kalibane » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:10 pm

Agreed. Dissapointed in Sherman not facing the media, that's the price of talking the way he does.

Still have no problem with him talking though.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby Agent 86 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:20 pm

#37 wrote:Talk with us, Richard, is what I keep hearing. Man, take this time to reflect, and then walk the walk. Talk is just that. - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2198 ... o-chargers

What Richard did say, drew negative feedback from troll land- http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/09/m ... apasmurfss



So according to Pete, who is on Sirius right now, he asked Sherm what the deal was with not talking to the media. Sherm told him he showered up, went back to his locker, and no one came to interview him. So he signed some autographs and what not, and left.

Not sure how accurate it is, but why the heck would Pete lie about this, or Sherm for that matter.

Much ado about nothing.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby HumanCockroach » Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:12 pm

I don't know man, something seems fishy there to me. No one went to interview Sherman? Really? The dude has his own podium after practices, something usually reserved for QB's, something tells me there is a touch more to this story.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby Agent 86 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:30 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:I don't know man, something seems fishy there to me. No one went to interview Sherman? Really? The dude has his own podium after practices, something usually reserved for QB's, something tells me there is a touch more to this story.


That was my first thought too HCR. It does seem weird. My guess is that Sherm took a little extra time after the game gearing down and showering probably knowing he was gonna get grilled. Reporters had maybe left the scene thinking he wasn't gonna make himself available maybe??
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby NorthHawk » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:32 pm

I don't know if something is fishy or not, but if he is asked, I hope he just says something like the Charges played well and although he didn't give up any big plays he wasn't as sharp as he should have been.
I think something like that could diffuse much of any criticism.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby RiverDog » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:47 pm

obiken wrote:The problem is the loss of WT3, cost us our depth, and Richard did bring some of this on himself. There are a few that can walk the walk and talk the talk. Ali, being one of them. Sherman was classless in not showing up for the media after the game. However, he did not get torched. IF they want to throw his way as a hawks fan, I say, go ahead make my day. As Matt Staub how that worked out for him.


Yea, I'll take my chances with Sherman, too. If other QB's around the league think they can repeat Rivers' success, then go for it.

Our problem last Sunday was that we didn't get any turnovers. The Chargers put the ball on the ground a couple of times but got it back. Rivers was flawless, and got lucky on a couple of prayers. That's not going to happen all the time.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby Zorn76 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:18 pm

Live by the sword...

I dunno. It's hardly shocking RS declined post game stuff, then tweets what he could have said in person later.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby c_hawkbob » Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:13 am

"I thought that was pretty hilarious," Sherman said. "You know when a guy wants to get his name in the paper he has to say something crazy ... you've got little guys like the Chargers guys saying they've exposed something. They had 60 and 50 yards.

(Antonio) Gates, Hall of Famer, had a fantastic game and Philip (Rivers) had a great game, and the rest of the guys were there. You see stuff like that and it makes you laugh."



Sherman this morning on NFL AM.
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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

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Re: Sherman at a loss for words

Postby rottweiler » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:32 am

Let's piss him off.

It's all your fault because you SUCK, Rick. :twisted:
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