Tarriffs

[I-5]

Parisan? Agreed! That doesn't equate one with the other, though. Different groups of people benefit from each party. They are not the same by a long shot.

[RiverDog]

Parisan? Agreed! That doesn't equate one with the other, though. Different groups of people benefit from each party. They are not the same by a long shot.

I don't understand the point you're making or what you're responding to. Of course, the two parties are partisan and different groups benefit from each, but an AG is supposed to be impartial and simply uphold the law (which is the argument against the US AG). Are you saying that the state AG is not hypocritical and partisan in the filing of so many lawsuits against Trump when he filed none against Obama?

[RiverDog]

This why I despise both parties. They are both ideologically driven idiots that use science when it suits their purposes and discard it when it doesn't. They just make crap up and pretend they're doing the right thing. So many morons running this country. Talk, talk, talk and do stupid things. It's annoying.

Monarchies have their good points, and this type of behavior by (small 'd') democratic politicians is one of them. The only problem is getting the right monarch.

[Aseahawkfan]

Monarchies have their good points, and this type of behavior by (small 'd') democratic politicians is one of them. The only problem is getting the right monarch.

Or we could admit that our system is effective as it is then hire people by resume rather public speaking to implement the systems rather than continuously change them to suit their personal ideologies. I would much rather read a resume at this point than listen to all this rhetoric that is more values based than administrating our high quality systems well.

[RiverDog]

Or we could admit that our system is effective as it is then hire people by resume rather public speaking to implement the systems rather than continuously change them to suit their personal ideologies. I would much rather read a resume at this point than listen to all this rhetoric that is more values based than administrating our high quality systems well.

Attorney General should be one of those "resume" positions rather than political appointee or elected official. The justice system they represent is supposed to be blind to such things as partisan politics. At the very least, they should be appointed by a committee with equal representatives from both political parties so as to ferret out the true hacks like Ferguson and Barr.

Having been involved in union/company grievances, the way we used to decide on an arbitrator was that we'd petition the NLRB for 5 administrative judges to select from to hear the case. After a flip of a coin, each side would strike off one name each until one remained. They ought to do something like that to eliminate extremists from both sides of the spectrum for non partisan positions like attorney general.

[I-5]

I couldn't agree more. AG should not be political in any way. It was wrong for JFK to hire his brother, as it is wrong for the Barr to be Trump's bootlicker.

[RiverDog]

I couldn't agree more. AG should not be political in any way. It was wrong for JFK to hire his brother, as it is wrong for the Barr to be Trump's bootlicker....

..or Ferguson to be Inslee's bootlicker.

[I-5]

Agreed

[Aseahawkfan]

Abuse of the justice system is one of the worst.

I'd be ok appointing trade deal negotiators, diplomats, and the like.

[Hawktawk]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-t ... 2019-09-27

In other news Stock market down almost a thousand for the week. Corporate stock buybacks that have propelled the market are slowing. We may be headed for a recession that will make 2007-2009 look like an economic boom and that's despite a huge tax cut and historic peacetime deficits of a Trillion plus a year. There's no hay in the barn thanks to the policies of this administration and China isn't likely to be in the mood to bail us out this time either.

Oh and one other thing. I got walked out of Genie industries Moses lake plant today after hiring on in a booming market 18 months ago despite perfect attendance, rave reviews, having invented processes etc. I went out the door along with about 200 other people in a massive downsizing as unsold inventory has been piling up for months with these insane trade wars conducted on twitter by a madman slowing the global economy to a crawl. The plant is at about half the employment it was 18 months ago, 500 jobs lost in Moses lake and more to come. Coupled with REC Silicone which shuttered a few months ago probably over 1000 good jobs gone locally due to trade disputes.Im cool, I can do a lot of things, I have a line on another golf course job, I've got a standing offer at the local radio station to do talk radio,I've done a little bit of everything I'll be OK. But lots of the people who walked out with me maybe not so much.

My America has not been made great, quite the opposite and it's going to be basically everyone's America soon enough other than the super rich who will just get richer. Meanwhile we get to hear the treasonous corrupt lunatic in chief spout off about a coup, civil war etc as good career public servants who have utterly lost their souls walk the plank for him....Not great...........

[RiverDog]

Oh and one other thing. I got walked out of Genie industries Moses lake plant today after hiring on in a booming market 18 months ago despite perfect attendance, rave reviews, having invented processes etc. I went out the door along with about 200 other people in a massive downsizing as unsold inventory has been piling up for months with these insane trade wars conducted on twitter by a madman slowing the global economy to a crawl. The plant is at about half the employment it was 18 months ago, 500 jobs lost in Moses lake and more to come. Coupled with REC Silicone which shuttered a few months ago probably over 1000 good jobs gone locally due to trade disputes.Im cool, I can do a lot of things, I have a line on another golf course job, I've got a standing offer at the local radio station to do talk radio,I've done a little bit of everything I'll be OK. But lots of the people who walked out with me maybe not so much.

Dang, that's tough. I hate to see anyone lose their job for any reason, especially when you're on the "back 9" of your career. I'm glad you have a viable Plan B. Let us know how it goes.

[Hawktawk]

Dang, that's tough. I hate to see anyone lose their job for any reason, especially when you're on the "back 9" of your career. I'm glad you have a viable Plan B. Let us know how it goes.

Yeah I'm about on the back 5 actually It was a bummer losing that job, I liked it very much and really did excellent at it as well.I was hoping to ride it out till 65.

Im meeting with the GM at legacy resort in potholes/ mardon resort about that golf course job on Friday and have a couple other irons in the fire. I've got decent unenjoyment bennies till late February if needed but Im sure Ill be doing something before then. Thanks for the kind words RD.

I dont like oversharing personal BS, just pointing out on a Tariffs forum that not every sector is doing well in this supposedly *greatest economy ever*. Manufacturing in general is in the dumpster.

[RiverDog]

Yeah I'm about on the back 5 actually It was a bummer losing that job, I liked it very much and really did excellent at it as well.I was hoping to ride it out till 65.

Im meeting with the GM at legacy resort in potholes/ mardon resort about that golf course job on Friday and have a couple other irons in the fire. I've got decent unenjoyment bennies till late February if needed but Im sure Ill be doing something before then. Thanks for the kind words RD.

I dont like oversharing personal BS, just pointing out on a Tariffs forum that not every sector is doing well in this supposedly *greatest economy ever*. Manufacturing in general is in the dumpster.

The good thing about your predicament is, regardless if we want to credit Trump with any of it or not, that it's a job hunter's dream for anyone that's willing and able to work. If your passion for work is anywhere close to your passion about politics, you'll do just fine. No economy has all sectors that are totally insulated. Changes in technology will cause some industries to thrive, others to struggle.

You're not oversharing your personal BS. To the contrary, it adds to the discussion to be able to give real life examples. And so long as we are on the subject of sharing personal stories, the friend of mine I told you guys about that had his promotion held up due to Trump's trade war finally got the job. He's now my former employer's international production manager, quite a journey for a guy who's first job for us 15 years (or so) ago was as a temporary trimming potatoes.

[Hawktawk]

The good thing about your predicament is, regardless if we want to credit Trump with any of it or not, that it's a job hunter's dream for anyone that's willing and able to work. If your passion for work is anywhere close to your passion about politics, you'll do just fine. No economy has all sectors that are totally insulated. Changes in technology will cause some industries to thrive, others to struggle.

You're not oversharing your personal BS. To the contrary, it adds to the discussion to be able to give real life examples. And so long as we are on the subject of sharing personal stories, the friend of mine I told you guys about that had his promotion held up due to Trump's trade war finally got the job. He's now my former employer's international production manager, quite a journey for a guy who's first job for us 15 years (or so) ago was as a temporary trimming potatoes.

Honestly between Genie and REC silicone in Moses having laid off over 1000 people recently in a community of 22K or whatever it's anything but a "job hunters dream" in my economic microclimate and at age 60 Im not relocating. My wife is younger and has an excellent job as an MRI tech at confluence health so we will stay here.

But I'm seeing that the slim pickings here averaging probably 13.50 per hour if that, which is tough unless youre college educated for management (I have no degree) or have a CDL(got rid of mine years ago and regret it now). I've spoken with the GM from potholes GC just today and it sounds promising. It's hard work relative to assembling ground boxes for genies but I am a pretty fit big strong extremely hard working dude every bit as intense when I work as when I talk politics or anything else I do. And with 33 year experience I can do it in my sleep and do it extremely well.

The radio show thing was almost 20 months ago since I've spoken to the manager so I dont know if the offer is still there. I love being on air, I've done it many times before as a guest of Dave Heaverlo on his sports talk show. It's just that to make a living doing it I've got to go sell advertising for my show which sounds intimidating . So we will see about that one.

We will see. I'll keep ya posted and GO HAWKS!!!!

[RiverDog]

Honestly between Genie and REC silicone in Moses having laid off over 1000 people recently in a community of 22K or whatever it's anything but a "job hunters dream" in my economic microclimate and at age 60 Im not relocating. My wife is younger and has an excellent job as an MRI tech at confluence health so we will stay here.

But I'm seeing that the slim pickings here averaging probably 13.50 per hour if that, which is tough unless youre college educated for management (I have no degree) or have a CDL(got rid of mine years ago and regret it now). I've spoken with the GM from potholes GC just today and it sounds promising. It's hard work relative to assembling ground boxes for genies but I am a pretty fit big strong extremely hard working dude every bit as intense when I work as when I talk politics or anything else I do. And with 33 year experience I can do it in my sleep and do it extremely well.

The radio show thing was almost 20 months ago since I've spoken to the manager so I dont know if the offer is still there. I love being on air, I've done it many times before as a guest of Dave Heaverlo on his sports talk show. It's just that to make a living doing it I've got to go sell advertising for my show which sounds intimidating . So we will see about that one.

We will see. I'll keep ya posted and GO HAWKS!!!!

I should have added the disclaimer that I did earlier, ie that it's tough to change careers so late in the game. Plus you're right, it's a lot easier said than done to sell your home, especially if you're having to move to an area where the real estate values and cost of living is higher. You're right, in a micro economy, layoffs like those can be devastating, and I didn't mean to sound insensitive.

I remember Dave Heaverlo, relief pitcher for the A's, and I remember that he'd gone into the radio business.

There's TONS of truck driving jobs out there. If you once had a CDL, it shouldn't take you much effort to get a new one.

Good Luck, My Friend!

[Hawktawk]

Yes Dave was affectionately known as" Tuna". I met him 35 years ago when he had just finished his playing career having had a cup of coffee with the mariners and a short stint working as a minor league coach. He was on KULE in ephrata at the time and I was running my first golf course Oasis park par 3 south of ephrata. I went on air with him many times including after he moved to KDRM in moses.He retired a few years ago and I haven't gone back on sports talk although I've had offers to sit in.

It was cool that I was on the air in the studio the friday before 48, correctly picked the Hawks win and was the only one in the listening area to predict we would score in the 40s which won the contest and a bunch of prizes.Then I went on air monday to revel in the win. Daves a 9ers fan so he wasn't quite as happy, especially after the NFC title game .

Unfortunately I did the same thing before and after 49 which was a whole different mood

I flirted with going into radio many times, was actually offered a piece of the action with KULE but was at my second course at Sun Lakes and didn't want to take a temporary pay cut.I've thought about that a lot of times. 35 years later it might still be there. If this Golf course opportunity doesn't work out I might give it a swing. Time will tell.