idhawkman wrote:That's bunk and you know it. Religious ideology is not dictated or swayed by money at that level.
Yes. It is. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. So tell me how the House of Saud came to power? Explain it to me Mr. I Know What I'm Talking About.
If you understood terrorism and what fuels it at all, you would understand better why this money is backing them. There is a marriage between the religious zealots and the powerful leaders of the Middle East. Saudi Arabia is a prime example of this relationship that exists. The leadership makes deals with these religious zealots to accept and fund their religious extremism in return for these groups acknowledging their power. This relationship is a fundamental part of the Middle Eastern power structure. Look up what schools in Saudi Arabia teach, funded by the Saudi oil money and what that leads to.
I was clueless as to how this worked as well before I actually took time to study it. It was a pretty fascinating read if you ever feel like really knowing what's going on over there and why the terrorism and religious zealotry seems endless. It all dates back to how Islam rose, how Middle Eastern leaders take power, hold power, and exercise power. Islam is an inherent part of the culture over there and the leaders have to develop relationships with various religious leaders to maintain their power or they will be the focus of the terrorism and religious violence. Something they do not want.
It would be near impossible to elucidate this relationship in a few paragraphs, but suffice it to say you are way off. The funding for terrorism comes from "allied" nations. They don't tell you this and keep it out of the media because if the American people knew and understood how it worked, they wouldn't want anything to do with it (until the gas prices rose of course). It would take way too long to explain all the relationships in the Middle East to the American people they would understand or accept. They wouldn't be able to explain that Saudi money is funding instability in Yemen, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, and Somalia under the guise of Islamic Jihad as part of their relationship with the Wahhabi power brokers they made a deal with a long time ago to hold power in Saudi Arabia. And that America allows this because Saudi Arabia helps them maintain control over oil.
It's not a conspiracy. That's the funny part. It's literally documented history anyone could read if they felt like it. That's the part I find so astounding.
This information if you ever feel like trying to understand the religious insanity we have involved ourselves in to maintain power over oil is out there for your consumption. To put it simply, imagine if the American president lived in a nation surrounded by hardcore Christian conservatives that would murder him if they felt he went against Christianity. That is the situation many Middle Eastern leaders live in. They have to maintain that relationship to maintain power and any reasonable stability in their nation. Fortunately a few a few nations like Egypt maintain power and stability through a highly effective military that checks the religious extremism, but they know Saudi money is trying to mess them up and they keep them out.
If you feel like maintaining your ignorance, have at it. You and the majority of America have done it for years. It's why you think stuff like "religious ideology doesn't matter at that level." It very much does in the Middle East. They are at a stage in their cultural evolution similar to Europe when the Catholic and Protestant churches held real power that kings feared.
At some point, the right was going to get someone with a backbone to stand up and fight with the same vigor that the left has been using for decades now. The division and difference everyone sees is actually the right finally having a belly full and saying enough. There's only so far you can push a person or group of people before they stand up and fight and that is what everyone is calling "division." I suspect that by "leader" stepping up you mean someone who continues to cave to the idiotic ideas of the left just to make nice with them. Well, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
No. I mean someone that doesn't build his reputation on birtherism, then gets mad when they make up some BS on him after he spent much of his time making some BS up on the previous president. That doesn't respond in an immature manner on Twitter to every perceived insult. Someone that manages the nation in a mature fashion in line with our Constitution, not grandstanding and abusing his position by commenting on every little thing he disagrees with. Someone that can determine the difference between science and ideology enough that he doesn't dismiss all science as some kind conspiracy and push his own ideology as truth. Someone that doesn't have a history of sleeping around on every wife and sitting on a gold throne.
Someone that doesn't attract mindless zealots like yourself with no interest whatsoever in truth or values. People that seem to want to back some guy they think is part of the winning team without regard to the real effect on the nation. Your lot are as tiresome to me as the mindless left wing zealots. There are better ways to do things.
As far your sad little narrative of getting kicked around by the left. I see very little evidence that Trump has stopped it. In fact, I think he has empowered them further and it will be even worse when the left sends the real lunatic fringe into power as an answer against Trump. Then I guess you'll be to your impotent whining. I'll be looking to move somewhere quiet from the overly numerous fools supporting these two ridiculous and awful ideological shifts.
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:03 am
