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Is the Iranian missile attack on Israel real or saving face?

Postby Aseahawkfan » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:14 am

Iran launched missiles at Israel. Doesn't seem any hit or did much. Iran is 80 million strong. It has a supposedly huge military. It can't seem to launch a real attack on Israel that does any damage.

Are they saving face or do they really want war with Israel? If they were to launch a real attack with ground troops on Israel, does the United States deploy? Who would back Iran in the war? Russia has its hands full with Ukraine. Would China supply Iran? I don't think they would as their economy is not going great, though if Iranian money wanted to buy weapons they would probably sell.

We're 35 trillion and growing in debt. Can we afford a prolonged war on two fronts again supporting Ukraine and deploying to the Middle East? Can anyone really afford war any more? Or will it decimate the intertwined world economy?

I don't see how any of these nations can really afford the scale of war some of them are pretending they want. Iran can't afford it. Russia is barely keeping up in Ukraine. China has too many economic connections to the West and economic problems domestically that if they cut off Western markets supporting Iran, they would be hammered. How much more debt can the United States accrue before we're paying so much interest and it is so high that even we're on a path to insolvency.

I don't know how any of these people can continue economically these wars. The world economy is already dealing with supply problems and we started a shore workers strike on the East Coast.

What a bad time for weak leadership and ridiculous infighting in America.
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Re: Is the Iranian missile attack on Israel real or saving f

Postby c_hawkbob » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:29 am

Really? You're questioning this as some sort of conspiracy theory already?
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Re: Is the Iranian missile attack on Israel real or saving f

Postby Aseahawkfan » Tue Oct 01, 2024 1:25 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:Really? You're questioning this as some sort of conspiracy theory already?


No. I am saying Iran is not really escalating. They are saving face launching missiles that won't really hit. They know they won't hit. They have no intention of invading or starting a war. Just like the last missile attack they launched, it's nothing more than a show they know won't be successful.

Explain to me why the second time that Iran has launched missiles nothing hits? If Iran is really intent on attacking Israel, why are they landing nothing? Are they just that bad and outclassed or do they know these attacks are useless and are just doing it to save face?

Usually launching missiles on someone is an act of war and opens you to attack. But Iran has done this before and landed nothing, then everyone just seems to forget about it.

Why do they do this c-bob? This is the second time Iran has launched missiles claiming an escalation that has done nothing. Or did you forget this is the second time Iran has launched missiles in the last year?

I'm starting to see an SNL skit of an Iranian general telling his soldiers to load the missiles with fireworks to launch at Israel because that's about as effective as Iran's rockets have been in this so called second attempt to land a rocket against Israel.

Explain why Israel hasn't seriously retaliated against Iran? If some nation launched missiles on America, America would retaliate.
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Re: Is the Iranian missile attack on Israel real or saving f

Postby c_hawkbob » Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:48 pm

I think it's too early to say they've hit nothing. Watching the light show over Tel Aviv it looked to me like they were scoring about 50% knocking down the incoming missiles. I do think Iran is targeting military assets (as opposed to Russia's attacks) to keep the rest of the world from escalating retaliation, but I doubt they are hitting nothing.
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Re: Is the Iranian missile attack on Israel real or saving f

Postby Aseahawkfan » Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:55 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:I think it's too early to say they've hit nothing. Watching the light show over Tel Aviv it looked to me like they were scoring about 50% knocking down the incoming missiles. I do think Iran is targeting military assets (as opposed to Russia's attacks) to keep the rest of the world from escalating retaliation, but I doubt they are hitting nothing.


Ok. We will see. So far it looks like nothing. Sounds like Israel gave he go ahead to return to normal, but if Iran keeps launching then it may be more of a real attempt by Iran to escalate.

To me Iran doesn't really want a war as they know what happens.

Russia would love Iran to invade because they know we'll deploy. Then we pull resources and attention from Ukraine to a ground war with Iran. But does Iran want that? I'm doubtful.

Their economy is already not great. I'm sure Russia would support them as best they can just to give the U.S. a middle finger, but would Iran would suffer huge losses and likely lose with Russia making the biggest gains selling weapons to Iran to finance their war with Ukraine and screw with the United States.

I would think China would stay mostly uninvolved.

It will be an interesting few days at least as we wonder what Iran is really doing with this missile launch. Saving face or truly want an escalation?

I hope it is just saving face as a real escalation in the Middle East by Iran that draws the United States into a ground war in the Middle East would not be great.
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Re: Is the Iranian missile attack on Israel real or saving f

Postby c_hawkbob » Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:29 am

You may be right Asea, there have been no reports of casualties so far ...
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Re: Is the Iranian missile attack on Israel real or saving f

Postby Aseahawkfan » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:09 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:You may be right Asea, there have been no reports of casualties so far ...


And Iran just put a statement they are done. I think they wanted to save face as they have to look like they care to maintain their position as the ones standing up to Israel and the United States.

Which is good. No one wanted an escalation in the Middle East. Iran as much as they try to position to be the home base for Islam isn't stupid enough to escalate to their destruction.
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