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Re: Draft Thread

Postby monkey » Thu May 08, 2014 9:24 pm

ROFL!!
From Twitter: Jim Harbaugh on 49ers draft pick "He'll compete at the nickel."

It may work, he's a strong safety they're going to try to convert to slot corner, who should be a serious hitter, and will probably bring up the level of physicality in the secondary...but seriously?!? With a first round pick???

ROFL!!!
Good one Niners! :lol:


EDIT: It get's better. Matt Millen called this a "good pick!" He was dead serious too!
If Millen really likes the pick you just KNOW it's a bust!
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Futureite » Thu May 08, 2014 9:30 pm

monkey wrote:Here's some good names still left at the two spots most of us think we need most WR and O-Line

Marquise Lee
Cody Latimer
Jordan Matthews
Donte Moncrief
Martavis Bryant
(Plus several others we should be able to get much later like Jerred Abbrederis for example).

Morgan Moses
Cyrus Koundijio
Joel Bitonio
Xavier Su'a Filo
David Yankey

(And more that should still be available later on such as Billy Turner, who I would LOVE to get in the fourth, if still there).

Plenty of truly top notch talent left guys! This just couldn't have gone any better!


You can't be surprised these guys are still there. This draft was good in one way for us but a curse in another. As deep as it was I knew you were going to have a chance to draft a very talented wr regardless of how the 1st rd went. Rich get richer!
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Thu May 08, 2014 9:41 pm

I feel pretty sure Botonio or Moses are early choices ( though it could go any way as the Hawks have shown) I like Mocrief with a possible trade down again at the end of the fourth for a third round pick.... still some decent speed / size receivers available as well as some decent DT depth. One of the nice things about everyone trying to copy the Hawks formula is that players that are no longer a serious need, are being snapped up at crazy rates allowing positions of actually need slide down giving them multiple choices, and allowing movement with out severely limiting the possibilities.

I'm a "happy" guy with how this draft is playing out.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Futureite » Thu May 08, 2014 9:50 pm

monkey wrote:ROFL!!
From Twitter: Jim Harbaugh on 49ers draft pick "He'll compete at the nickel."

It may work, he's a strong safety they're going to try to convert to slot corner, who should be a serious hitter, and will probably bring up the level of physicality in the secondary...but seriously?!? With a first round pick???

ROFL!!!
Good one Niners! :lol:


EDIT: It get's better. Matt Millen called this a "good pick!" He was dead serious too!
If Millen really likes the pick you just KNOW it's a bust!


I am reading that Hawks were going to pick him if he fell a couple slots. Don't know if that is true but if so . . . .he cannot be that bad.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby monkey » Thu May 08, 2014 10:07 pm

Futureite wrote:
monkey wrote:ROFL!!
From Twitter: Jim Harbaugh on 49ers draft pick "He'll compete at the nickel."

It may work, he's a strong safety they're going to try to convert to slot corner, who should be a serious hitter, and will probably bring up the level of physicality in the secondary...but seriously?!? With a first round pick???

ROFL!!!
Good one Niners! :lol:


EDIT: It get's better. Matt Millen called this a "good pick!" He was dead serious too!
If Millen really likes the pick you just KNOW it's a bust!


I am reading that Hawks were going to pick him if he fell a couple slots. Don't know if that is true but if so . . . .he cannot be that bad.
I HIGHLY doubt that report. Seattle CLEARLY has no need of a safety, much less one who likely may not even beat out the backups we already have, and who has ZERO chance to start.
If they take a safety/CB it will be late, as always.

No, the name the Seahawks wanted was Dominick Easley DT from Florida who ended up in New England.
Dan Quinn obviously had connections with him, and Easley is one of those high character (team captain, and a bit goofy in a fun way) guys with a super high motor who had Seahawks type of player written all over him, and only dropped because of the knee problems.
Once New England grabbed him, then trading back was inevitable.

Not surprisingly New England snagged him...leave it to the Patriots to know when a good thing falls in their laps.
This is why the Patriots are always so good...
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Thu May 08, 2014 10:17 pm

I googled it, hasn't even shown up of SFGATE so I think he was attempting to make a joke? I hope at least, nothing I saw even hinted at Hawks interest in him.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Eaglehawk » Thu May 08, 2014 10:18 pm

Mid rounders seem to be our sweet spot anyway. PC likes guys that are coachable, smart and have talent. Let's see what happens next round.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Thu May 08, 2014 10:23 pm

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/ ... id=2543741
Futureite wrote:
monkey wrote:ROFL!!
From Twitter: Jim Harbaugh on 49ers draft pick "He'll compete at the nickel."

It may work, he's a strong safety they're going to try to convert to slot corner, who should be a serious hitter, and will probably bring up the level of physicality in the secondary...but seriously?!? With a first round pick???

ROFL!!!
Good one Niners! :lol:


EDIT: It get's better. Matt Millen called this a "good pick!" He was dead serious too!
If Millen really likes the pick you just KNOW it's a bust!


I am reading that Hawks were going to pick him if he fell a couple slots. Don't know if that is true but if so . . . .he cannot be that bad.


http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/ ... id=2543741

9 teams showed interest per the report out of the bay area, and Ward, none of those teams interested resides in the northwest.

http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_257 ... mie-wardst.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Futureite » Thu May 08, 2014 10:39 pm

I did read it - from other idiots posting that on blogs ;). Lighten up guys it's only day 1 of the draft.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby jshawaii22 » Thu May 08, 2014 10:44 pm

...couldn't of gone any better... Well, we could of held out to get our third round Percy pick back instead of their fourth. That would of been icing. :D
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Zorn76 » Thu May 08, 2014 11:00 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:I feel pretty sure Botonio or Moses are early choices ( though it could go any way as the Hawks have shown) I like Mocrief with a possible trade down again at the end of the fourth for a third round pick.... still some decent speed / size receivers available as well as some decent DT depth. One of the nice things about everyone trying to copy the Hawks formula is that players that are no longer a serious need, are being snapped up at crazy rates allowing positions of actually need slide down giving them multiple choices, and allowing movement with out severely limiting the possibilities.

I'm a "happy" guy with how this draft is playing out.


Excellent point, HC. Well said, and something that's easy to overlook, just like I did:)

I'm liking the way this draft is going, too. I was happy to see our Seahawk logo disappear next to the time clock, with the Viking logo taking over the last spot for the first round. Real curious to see if we do it again at #40 tomorrow. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Eaglehawk » Thu May 08, 2014 11:49 pm

Zorn76 wrote:
HumanCockroach wrote:I feel pretty sure Botonio or Moses are early choices ( though it could go any way as the Hawks have shown) I like Mocrief with a possible trade down again at the end of the fourth for a third round pick.... still some decent speed / size receivers available as well as some decent DT depth. One of the nice things about everyone trying to copy the Hawks formula is that players that are no longer a serious need, are being snapped up at crazy rates allowing positions of actually need slide down giving them multiple choices, and allowing movement with out severely limiting the possibilities.

I'm a "happy" guy with how this draft is playing out.


Excellent point, HC. Well said, and something that's easy to overlook, just like I did:)

I'm liking the way this draft is going, too. I was happy to see our Seahawk logo disappear next to the time clock, with the Viking logo taking over the last spot for the first round. Real curious to see if we do it again at #40 tomorrow. Wouldn't surprise me at all.


Yeah depends on how far they want to slide down to. The hawks are playing this draft at a very high level and other teams are starting to take notice.
Great point HC and Z76. Its our methods, these other teams are still trying to figure it out. Not picking at 32 also saved us 1million a year? Not bad.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby NorthHawk » Fri May 09, 2014 3:45 am

Here are some of Gil Brandt's list of players remaining.

Kony Ealy DE
Marquise Lee WR
Cyrus Kouandjio OT
Derek Carr QB
Xavier Su'a-Filo OG
Stephon Tuitt, DT
Ra'Shede Hageman DT/DE
Morgan Moses OT
Tim Jernigan DT
Louis Nix DT
Joel Bitonio OG/OT
Jimmy Garropolo QB
DeMarcus Lawrence DE
Tom Savage QB
Jordan Matthews WR
Ego Ferguson DT
Austin Sefarian-Jenkins TE
Jeremy Hill, RB
Carlos Hyde RB
Cameron Fleming OT
Cody Lattimer WR
Allen Robinson WR

With 2 picks out of the next 32, we should be able to get a player that can improve the team.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Steady_Hawk » Fri May 09, 2014 8:59 am

North,

A lot of good quality players are in that list.

I wonder if they're trying to get back into the third round?

If not, one of the two should be Mosses, Bitonio or Kouandjio. I would still love to have Austin Sefarian-Jenkins too, but I doubt he makes it to the end of the second round. Louis Nix was a monster before he got hurt, might be a risky pick that pays off big.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby NorthHawk » Fri May 09, 2014 9:21 am

Steady_Hawk wrote:North,

A lot of good quality players are in that list.

I wonder if they're trying to get back into the third round?

If not, one of the two should be Mosses, Bitonio or Kouandjio. I would still love to have Austin Sefarian-Jenkins too, but I doubt he makes it to the end of the second round. Louis Nix was a monster before he got hurt, might be a risky pick that pays off big.


That's just part of Gil Brandt's list.
I read in PFT that they wanted Easley so it shows that DT and DL is high on their list, too.
An article earlier in the week showed the Seahawks have not shied away from drafting players coming off injury and have fallen, so Nix or Tuitt might be their next target.
As well, there were comments that Schneider might move down again from 40. If not, maybe at 64 if enough talent is left.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Fri May 09, 2014 1:55 pm

I could definitely see another trade down to get a third back. Wouldn't be surprised in the least, or as NLB said on another thread trading a couple compensatory picks from next years draft to move back in ( of which there should be several).
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Steady_Hawk » Fri May 09, 2014 2:49 pm

HC,

I thought you couldn't trade compensatory picks???
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby briwas101 » Fri May 09, 2014 3:01 pm

Steady_Hawk wrote:HC,

I thought you couldn't trade compensatory picks???

You cannot trade comp picks, nor can a team trade back a pick that you traded to them, so it would've been impossible to get back our 3rd from the vikings.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Fri May 09, 2014 3:10 pm

Sorry I wasn't clear, I meant we could trade picks from next years draft BECAUSE of the large amount of compensatory picks we will have. Sorry if I made it seem the other way, which reading that post I certainly did. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Steady_Hawk » Fri May 09, 2014 3:13 pm

No need to apologize, I just wanted to make sure I understood compensatory picks correctly.

Briwas,

I actually did not know you couldn't trade a pick back. Good to know!
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby I-5 » Fri May 09, 2014 5:25 pm

Seahawks select 6'1" 175lb Colorado WR Paul Richardson in 2nd round at #45


http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/1 ... t-Seahawks
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Fri May 09, 2014 5:56 pm

Steady_Hawk wrote:No need to apologize, I just wanted to make sure I understood compensatory picks correctly.

Briwas,

I actually did not know you couldn't trade a pick back. Good to know!


Didn't know that either. Makes sense when you think about their trade down.....
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby I-5 » Fri May 09, 2014 6:07 pm

Assuming coaches like more than just his speed when they Richardson, it is interesting to note that Richardson's 40-yard dash time is 4.33, compared to 4.41 for Percy Harvin. Now let's see how he competes and how coachable he is.

Like everyone else, I assumed the Hawks wanted and needed a big, tall WR, and maybe they still will get one, but you can see how Richardson fits into their 'unique qualities' filter that they prize so much. Blazing blazing speed, and decent hands from what I can see. I assume they chose him for his toughness as well.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Futureite » Fri May 09, 2014 6:15 pm

Richardsion is a baller. Great acceleration and flat out speed. Fluid catching the ball and transitioning to football moves. Watch some Youtube clips and you'll be thrulled to have him. He is definitely a playmaker.
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby Zorn76 » Sat May 10, 2014 11:10 pm

Well, another draft in the books.

And at the end of the day, I liked what we ended up doing, particularly today (Saturday). Seems like we got some good value. I think we bring in yet more OL prospects as UDFA's coming up, and we should. It will be huge if we put together any kind of line that's decent in pass protection. We don't need to be lights out, just give RW a bit more time and cut the sacks down by 10 or more for the year:)
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Re: Draft Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat May 10, 2014 11:57 pm

http://vimeo.com/m/81855220

Future's right, watch some video of this kid and people are going to forget about the other receivers available at the time of the pick, and quite possible several taken before him. That pick wasn't a "value" issue, because the Hawks just fleeced the other 31 teams IMHO by taking this guy....
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