Watching the 49er's game now

[savvyman]

They suck

[mykc14]

I don't think they suck, but they haven't looked good this Pre-Season. On a another note that stadium looks pretty empty. Also, they acted like they won the SB when they finally scored a TD, LOL.

[HumanCockroach]

Not good when Yo Gabba Gabbert looks like the better QB..... all I can guess is he is working so hard on learning to work through his progression that he isn't playing his game.... ? So through three games, this upgraded 1st string offense has still scored what? Three points?

[HumanCockroach]

LOL, Harbaugh "threw Colin in front of Erin Andrews to explain first string offenses problems" What? What? What? Who does that? Any coach ever done that that you guys remember?

[jshawaii22]

Man, were there a lot of injuries in this game. The Charger's in game #2 just got a little easier.

js

[Zorn76]

SF's OL didn't look too hot in the first. I think the 1st string gets more than the usual work in game 4.

[HumanCockroach]

SF's OL didn't look too hot in the first. I think the 1st string gets more than the usual work in game 4.

Was pretty surprised they didn't stick with the starters through at least the half, seemed pretty odd to me.

[savvyman]

3 points by their starters in three games? (Yes they maybe have played only a total of 4-5 quarters)

A defense that has allowed three straight teams to steamroll their way to the endzone against their 1's in the first three games?

I will say it again

They Suck.

[RiverDog]

LOL, Harbaugh "threw Colin in front of Erin Andrews to explain first string offenses problems" What? What? What? Who does that? Any coach ever done that that you guys remember?

Harbaugh is clumsy and out of place in front of a camera. It just isn't his bag. If I were that unsure of myself, I'd recruit a stand in, too, probably pay him to do it.

[HumanCockroach]

LOL, Harbaugh "threw Colin in front of Erin Andrews to explain first string offenses problems" What? What? What? Who does that? Any coach ever done that that you guys remember?

Harbaugh is clumsy and out of place in front of a camera. It just isn't his bag. If I were that unsure of myself, I'd recruit a stand in, too, probably pay him to do it.

Plenty of coaches uncomfortable in front of the camera, never seen one tell a reporter to ask the QB DURING a game to explain the issues with the offense before, never, no matter how uncomfortable they were. Came across as he was blaming Kaepernik, which IMHO is pretty damn stupid. Wouldn't have been difficult to say the protection hasn't been good and we need to shore that up, would it? IMHO it was unique and out of place.

[Zorn76]

Like I said elsewhere, it's gonna be real interesting for the 49ers this year.

It's SB or bust, just like it has been for the last 3 years now. They got to one recently, now they gotta close the deal.

Harbaugh's lame duck status may not improve unless he wins a Lombardi. His style is difficult to deal with, especially in a FO context. I still think he's a better HC than Trent Baalke is a GM, but another postseason failure may be too much for either side to handle.

[NorthHawk]

I wonder if his attitude has at some level a basis in him not yet getting a new contract and what was reported last year (trade talk to the Browns followed by reports he wanted SB winning coach's money).

[jshawaii22]

ObS... but it's Practice, damit, practice! I can't believe you're talkin bout Practice!

js

[Futureite]

No, he's just a slab sided horbstrunk. He can't talk to the media because he has no real answers. He is flying by the seat of his pants, and has no sense of direction. Its a one in four that he will pilot the ship into the ground.

Of course I know nothing, so this is only a fan's poop. But, I do know for sure that I am most happy to have señor Carroll as the head coach. Harbaugh seems to be leading with a sense of the frantic, while Carroll has a feel for the system.

I apologize in advance for this rant, but there is a qualitative difference between our head coach and that of the Niners, that reflects definitely in the response of the players. It was amazing to see our team play at a midseason level in this game against the Bears. Almost no penalties, crisp offense, stifling defense, excellent special teams. Meanwhile, our main rival, San Fran, is failing to score, is looking sad, and Is trying to make scary faces.

What's to think?

Sorry, I've had 3 gin and tonics.

Lol!! To read this post you'd never know this team averaged 12 wins the past 3 yrs. "No sense of direction . . Everybody's sad". Why apologize? You probably echoed the thoughts of most in your region .

[NorthHawk]

No, he's just a slab sided horbstrunk. He can't talk to the media because he has no real answers. He is flying by the seat of his pants, and has no sense of direction. Its a one in four that he will pilot the ship into the ground.

Of course I know nothing, so this is only a fan's poop. But, I do know for sure that I am most happy to have señor Carroll as the head coach. Harbaugh seems to be leading with a sense of the frantic, while Carroll has a feel for the system.

I apologize in advance for this rant, but there is a qualitative difference between our head coach and that of the Niners, that reflects definitely in the response of the players. It was amazing to see our team play at a midseason level in this game against the Bears. Almost no penalties, crisp offense, stifling defense, excellent special teams. Meanwhile, our main rival, San Fran, is failing to score, is looking sad, and Is trying to make scary faces.

What's to think?

Sorry, I've had 3 gin and tonics.

Lol!! To read this post you'd never know this team averaged 12 wins the past 3 yrs. "No sense of direction . . Everybody's sad". Why apologize? You probably echoed the thoughts of most in your region .

Are you suggesting the 49ers have looked good this preseason?

[RiverDog]

No, he's just a slab sided horbstrunk. He can't talk to the media because he has no real answers. He is flying by the seat of his pants, and has no sense of direction. Its a one in four that he will pilot the ship into the ground.

Of course I know nothing, so this is only a fan's poop. But, I do know for sure that I am most happy to have señor Carroll as the head coach. Harbaugh seems to be leading with a sense of the frantic, while Carroll has a feel for the system.

I apologize in advance for this rant, but there is a qualitative difference between our head coach and that of the Niners, that reflects definitely in the response of the players. It was amazing to see our team play at a midseason level in this game against the Bears. Almost no penalties, crisp offense, stifling defense, excellent special teams. Meanwhile, our main rival, San Fran, is failing to score, is looking sad, and Is trying to make scary faces.

What's to think?

Sorry, I've had 3 gin and tonics.

Lol!! To read this post you'd never know this team averaged 12 wins the past 3 yrs. "No sense of direction . . Everybody's sad". Why apologize? You probably echoed the thoughts of most in your region .

Are you suggesting the 49ers have looked good this preseason?

The Seahawks have looked great this preseason. Russell Wilson hasn't thrown an interception in 3 games and is playing at mid season form, Percy Harvin has looked fantastic as he gets incorporated into our offense, and our defense, even without guys like Bobby Wagner and Bruce Irvin and the departure of a couple of key players, looks like it hasn't lost a step. We were leading Denver at halftime when it was starters vs. starters, then blew away our next two opponents.

In the meantime, the Niners offense is sputtering, scoring just 3 points in their first two games and not looking a lot better in the game they won vs. the Chargers.

I don't put a lot of weight in preseason games and there's obviously things can change pretty rapidly, but you would have to be an ignoramus not to take into account the contrast between the two rivals during the preseason. If I were a Niners fan, I wouldn't be jumping out any windows but nevertheless, I'd be concerned. It is not homerism, it's realism.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

You've pretty much summed it up for me, River. One of my best friend's is one of the 49ers faithful, and even he is concerned. No fan in their right mind would not be at least a little worried about their performance thus far, especially in the 3rd preseason game. My friend is hoping it is just them not wanting to show their hand right now. That could be, but, he acknowledged that if they come out flat against Dallas, then their is serious reason for concern.

Personally, I'm banking on them turning it around; there's too much talent on that team for them not too. They just may not hit the ground running come week 1.

[Futureite]

The Seahawks have looked great this preseason. Russell Wilson hasn't thrown an interception in 3 games and is playing at mid season form, Percy Harvin has looked fantastic as he gets incorporated into our offense, and our defense, even without guys like Bobby Wagner and Bruce Irvin and the departure of a couple of key players, looks like it hasn't lost a step. We were leading Denver at halftime when it was starters vs. starters, then blew away our next two opponents.

In the meantime, the Niners offense is sputtering, scoring just 3 points in their first two games and not looking a lot better in the game they won vs. the Chargers.

I don't put a lot of weight in preseason games and there's obviously things can change pretty rapidly, but you would have to be an ignoramus not to take into account the contrast between the two rivals during the preseason. If I were a Niners fan, I wouldn't be jumping out any windows but nevertheless, I'd be concerned. It is not homerism, it's realism.[/quote]

I honestly don't care how good Seattle looks in preseason. Obviously I'd prefer they suck, but I have no idea how Carroll runs things and I did not see them play. I know they reprtedly ran no huddle and multiple formations last game. I don't know that any team is prepared for that on D in the preseason. Their success could be a harbinger of a dominant O or it could mean next to nothing.

I am not jumping out of a window because I have seen JT O'Sullivan light up the preseason to which Isaac Bruce predicted our O would average over 50 pts/game during the season. Didn't really turn out that way in 2008 as I remember. There are countless examples of this.

Our team consistently plays better in the regular season that it does during the preseason on O, and better in the postseason than the regular season. They hold something back at each level. Though I am interested, I don't really worry about how Carroll runs his team or treats preseason.

[Futureite]

No, he's just a slab sided horbstrunk. He can't talk to the media because he has no real answers. He is flying by the seat of his pants, and has no sense of direction. Its a one in four that he will pilot the ship into the ground.

Of course I know nothing, so this is only a fan's poop. But, I do know for sure that I am most happy to have señor Carroll as the head coach. Harbaugh seems to be leading with a sense of the frantic, while Carroll has a feel for the system.

I apologize in advance for this rant, but there is a qualitative difference between our head coach and that of the Niners, that reflects definitely in the response of the players. It was amazing to see our team play at a midseason level in this game against the Bears. Almost no penalties, crisp offense, stifling defense, excellent special teams. Meanwhile, our main rival, San Fran, is failing to score, is looking sad, and Is trying to make scary faces.

What's to think?

Sorry, I've had 3 gin and tonics.

Lol!! To read this post you'd never know this team averaged 12 wins the past 3 yrs. "No sense of direction . . Everybody's sad". Why apologize? You probably echoed the thoughts of most in your region .

Are you suggesting the 49ers have looked good this preseason?

At times the first team O has. I thought it was great on the only drive it had in Baltimore, decent in moving into scoring positions on both drives V Denver, and terrible V Chargers.

I just don't put stock into this. I saw the 2010 49ers go 4-0 in preseason and 6-10 in the regular season. Saw Kory Dheets kead prseason in rushing one yr and then get cut. I will worry if our entire first team O prepares for a revular season game and can't perform. They've added a lot on O, guys like V. McDonald are coming into their own, and they've only lost 1 gaurd (potentially). I don't see any way that they are not better than the O that was putting yds and pts on the road agaunst the Cards and Panthers' Ds to end the yr.

[NorthHawk]

If I were a 49ers fan, I would be concerned about the OL on passing plays.
Kaep got hit a couple of times last game that I would worry about.
He wasn't holding onto the ball too long, rather the Defense just broke down the OL protection packages.
We've had that problem for a while, but SF has had a pretty stout OL the last few years.

[HumanCockroach]

If I was a Niner fan I would be concerned with a lot more than that line. The team in general, hasn't looked consistently good in any aspect offensively or defensively for the entire pre season, it doesn't mean they won't when the bell rings, just that to this point they haven't, and whether some want to acknowledge that or not, is beside the point. There HAS been a LOT of off season distractions, a coach who ISN'T happy, and players facing injuries, hold outs, suspensions, and court dates. At some point the constant distraction good or bad, can cause teams to lose focus, and that is what I have seen so far, a team with no focus, consistently throughout the pre season. Again it doesn't mean they won't find it, but they better hurry up.

[RiverDog]

I just don't put stock into this. I saw the 2010 49ers go 4-0 in preseason and 6-10 in the regular season. Saw Kory Dheets kead prseason in rushing one yr and then get cut. I will worry if our entire first team O prepares for a revular season game and can't perform. They've added a lot on O, guys like V. McDonald are coming into their own, and they've only lost 1 gaurd (potentially). I don't see any way that they are not better than the O that was putting yds and pts on the road agaunst the Cards and Panthers' Ds to end the yr.

I don't put a lot of stock into preseason records, either. We went 4-0 in the Mora year, the worst year this franchise has had since Behring owned the team. Nevertheless, I'd much rather look in sync and ready for the regular season rather than the opposite. There have been occasions where teams looked great in the preseason and it carries right over into the regular season like it did for us in 2012 and 2013 where we went 4-0 and 3-1 respectively. I'm just saying that if it were me, I wouldn't be quite so cavalier about my team's problems as you appear to be, especially when you contrast it to the way the Hawks have looked.

[burrrton]

I know they reprtedly ran no huddle and multiple formations last game. I don't know that any team is prepared for that on D in the preseason.

Well, multiple formations is done by everyone (that's what preseason is for), but no huddle? I don't recall seeing that at all except maybe practicing 2-minute drills.

And yeah, I care a little how the team/players look coming into a season, but I don't give two squirts about the record.

[Futureite]

I just don't put stock into this. I saw the 2010 49ers go 4-0 in preseason and 6-10 in the regular season. Saw Kory Dheets kead prseason in rushing one yr and then get cut. I will worry if our entire first team O prepares for a revular season game and can't perform. They've added a lot on O, guys like V. McDonald are coming into their own, and they've only lost 1 gaurd (potentially). I don't see any way that they are not better than the O that was putting yds and pts on the road agaunst the Cards and Panthers' Ds to end the yr.

I don't put a lot of stock into preseason records, either. We went 4-0 in the Mora year, the worst year this franchise has had since Behring owned the team. Nevertheless, I'd much rather look in sync and ready for the regular season rather than the opposite. There have been occasions where teams looked great in the preseason and it carries right over into the regular season like it did for us in 2012 and 2013 where we went 4-0 and 3-1 respectively. I'm just saying that if it were me, I wouldn't be quite so cavalier about my team's problems as you appear to be, especially when you contrast it to the way the Hawks have looked.

I wouldn't say I am cavalier. I am just rejecting the recurring mantra that we are on the decline. I hear this literally every yr. And every preseason I hear this exact same thing.

I base my opinion on talent, history and what happened duting the actual games. A lot of people are drawing conclusions bssed upon a sliver sample size. Our QB is way down the list of passes attempted in the preseason by starting QBs. Other than the last game, our first team Oline has been great in run blocking. Hard to draw a real concludion of our pass game, and I guess our run game looks good. But I am not going to be like everyone else and take the obvious, surface level position - on football or anything in life. There is no way to tell anything about the type of team we'll be from this preseason.

I am not worried about Seattle because they are not my team. I'll watch Thursday because that is going to be a great game snd they are our division rival. Other than that I don't really care what they've done in preseason.

[HumanCockroach]

I just don't put stock into this. I saw the 2010 49ers go 4-0 in preseason and 6-10 in the regular season. Saw Kory Dheets kead prseason in rushing one yr and then get cut. I will worry if our entire first team O prepares for a revular season game and can't perform. They've added a lot on O, guys like V. McDonald are coming into their own, and they've only lost 1 gaurd (potentially). I don't see any way that they are not better than the O that was putting yds and pts on the road agaunst the Cards and Panthers' Ds to end the yr.

I don't put a lot of stock into preseason records, either. We went 4-0 in the Mora year, the worst year this franchise has had since Behring owned the team. Nevertheless, I'd much rather look in sync and ready for the regular season rather than the opposite. There have been occasions where teams looked great in the preseason and it carries right over into the regular season like it did for us in 2012 and 2013 where we went 4-0 and 3-1 respectively. I'm just saying that if it were me, I wouldn't be quite so cavalier about my team's problems as you appear to be, especially when you contrast it to the way the Hawks have looked.

I wouldn't say I am cavalier. I am just rejecting the recurring mantra that we are on the decline. I hear this literally every yr. And every preseason I hear this exact same thing.

I base my opinion on talent, history and what happened duting the actual games. A lot of people are drawing conclusions bssed upon a sliver sample size. Our QB is way down the list of passes attempted in the preseason by starting QBs. Other than the last game, our first team Oline has been great in run blocking. Hard to draw a real concludion of our pass game, and I guess our run game looks good. But I am not going to be like everyone else and take the obvious, surface level position - on football or anything in life. There is no way to tell anything about the type of team we'll be from this preseason.

I am not worried about Seattle because they are not my team. I'll watch Thursday because that is going to be a great game snd they are our division rival. Other than that I don't really care what they've done in preseason.

Not a whole lot of people saying "decline", they look unfocussed ( meaning the talent is there, but for whatever reason, they all are not on the same page, or pulling in the same direction) OBVIOUSLY people voted them as the primary competition for the Seahawks in this division, so the respect for the talent is still there, however, they have looked pretty damn bad so far, and that isn't indicative of a team "ready for the regular season". Win loss records are irrelevant, quality of execution and consistency ARE relevant however, and they haven't looked good, any way you slice it.

[c_hawkbob]

I'll say it, the Niners are on the decline. they've got a coach with a shelf life that is nearing it's expiration and internal strife at or near the top of the organization is beginning to erode the beast below.

That's not to say they'll suddenly crash to a sub .500 team (though there is also that capacity) but i do not believe they will ever be a better team, under this administration, than the one they fielded last year. They may well still win it all (the only reason they didn't last year was us) and they may still be a formidable opponent for a good while, but on the decline? I think so; when you're as good as they have been the last 3 years with such a volatile coach and a divided front office, I don't think they can maintain that level of play for long.

[RiverDog]

I'll say it, the Niners are on the decline. they've got a coach with a shelf life that is nearing it's expiration and internal strife at or near the top of the organization is beginning to erode the beast below.

That's not to say they'll suddenly crash to a sub .500 team (though there is also that capacity) but i do not believe they will ever be a better team, under this administration, than the one they fielded last year. They may well still win it all (the only reason they didn't last year was us) and they may still be a formidable opponent for a good while, but on the decline? I think so; when you're as good as they have been the last 3 years with such a volatile coach and a divided front office, I don't think they can maintain that level of play for long.

I thought that the Niners would implode last season to be surpassed by the Rams and for awhile, it looked like that might happen after we clobbered them in the opener and the Colts beat them on their home field. I'm not quite as cocky with my implosion forecast this season, especially now that Bradford has gone down, meaning there's one less team to pose a serious challenge.

I wish we got them early instead of both games coming in the 2nd half of the season. They might be getting off to a slow start again this year while we're looking like gang busters.

I'm not sure about the rest of you guys, but I can't wait until Thursday.

[Futureite]

I'll say it, the Niners are on the decline. they've got a coach with a shelf life that is nearing it's expiration and internal strife at or near the top of the organization is beginning to erode the beast below.

That's not to say they'll suddenly crash to a sub .500 team (though there is also that capacity) but i do not believe they will ever be a better team, under this administration, than the one they fielded last year. They may well still win it all (the only reason they didn't last year was us) and they may still be a formidable opponent for a good while, but on the decline? I think so; when you're as good as they have been the last 3 years with such a volatile coach and a divided front office, I don't think they can maintain that level of play for long.

I thought that the Niners would implode last season to be surpassed by the Rams and for awhile, it looked like that might happen after we clobbered them in the opener and the Colts beat them on their home field. I'm not quite as cocky with my implosion forecast this season, especially now that Bradford has gone down, meaning there's one less team to pose a serious challenge.

I wish we got them early instead of both games coming in the 2nd half of the season. They might be getting off to a slow start again this year while we're looking like gang busters.

I'm not sure about the rest of you guys, but I can't wait until Thursday.

Hell. I am almost excited as you for Thursday. Sonetimes I wonder if I had a choice to watch all 17 weeks of the yr in 17 straight days but lose 4 months of my life if I would take it. I was honestly wondering about that last night.

[savvyman]

I'll say it, the Niners are on the decline. they've got a coach with a shelf life that is nearing it's expiration and internal strife at or near the top of the organization is beginning to erode the beast below.

That's not to say they'll suddenly crash to a sub .500 team (though there is also that capacity) but i do not believe they will ever be a better team, under this administration, than the one they fielded last year. They may well still win it all (the only reason they didn't last year was us) and they may still be a formidable opponent for a good while, but on the decline? I think so; when you're as good as they have been the last 3 years with such a volatile coach and a divided front office, I don't think they can maintain that level of play for long.

I thought that the Niners would implode last season to be surpassed by the Rams and for awhile, it looked like that might happen after we clobbered them in the opener and the Colts beat them on their home field. I'm not quite as cocky with my implosion forecast this season, especially now that Bradford has gone down, meaning there's one less team to pose a serious challenge.

I wish we got them early instead of both games coming in the 2nd half of the season. They might be getting off to a slow start again this year while we're looking like gang busters.

I'm not sure about the rest of you guys, but I can't wait until Thursday.

Hell. I am almost excited as you for Thursday. Sonetimes I wonder if I had a choice to watch all 17 weeks of the yr in 17 straight days but lose 4 months of my life if I would take it. I was honestly wondering about that last night.

From what I have observed of the 49er's they have not looked good in preseason. Only their reputation is what is keeping experts from forecasting the 49ers as an 8-8 team.

However I do not wish for the demise of the 49er's - and do not understand Seahawks fans who do - I like how epic this rivalry has become and both fan bases have the 2 games marked as "An event" each year.

But based on only what I have observed in the pre-season it does not appear that the 49ers are the second best team any longer. We will see if the 49er's can successfully flip on the performance switch once the season starts.

[Futureite]

Lol so the talent and coaching plays no role in a prediction? You have rarely even seen the team that will play on Sundays in the preseason. If there is not a bias that creeps into one's mind with this analysis I'd be shocked. If you are predisposed to believing one thing, it will not take much to validate that belief.

[mykc14]

I wouldn't be to worried about the inner O yet. I have a feeling that they will be feeling pretty good about their 'O' after week 1. They are playing one of, if not the worst defense in the NFL and everybody will be talking about how dynamic their offense is going to be this year again. The reality will probably be somewhere in the middle though; much better than the preseason would indicate but not as good as they will look in week 1.

[HumanCockroach]

I wouldn't be to worried about the inner O yet. I have a feeling that they will be feeling pretty good about their 'O' after week 1. They are playing one of, if not the worst defense in the NFL and everybody will be talking about how dynamic their offense is going to be this year again. The reality will probably be somewhere in the middle though; much better than the preseason would indicate but not as good as they will look in week 1.

Yeah, I doubt they look the same against the boys, they weren't a dynamic offense last season either, maybe the extended absence of Smith and Bowman costs them a game or two, but unless that offense improves over what they have shown to this point the early season could be a problem for them. Last year was the same thing with a game against a woeful defense in GB, will be interesting to see how they fair over the long haul, facing D's like Seattle, Arizona and St Louis twice, along with several quality defenses outside the division ( Denver, Saints, KC etc) I do think they improved their weapons, just not sure that that will be enough to offset the losses on the defense at this point...