This defense and it's place in history

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Re: This defense and it's place in history

Postby Eaglehawk » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:33 am

HumanCockroach wrote:Yeah Zorn I just texted that to my Brother in law, we all watched it and noticed it was louder than normal, but there are actual SEA-Hawks chants going on that are clear on the telecast, and the announcers are being drowned out. Kind of cool, certainly unique to the normal crypts that are SB's...

Can you imagine next year in Glendale? It'll be like a freaking home game!
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Re: This defense and it's place in history

Postby 1BAD GTS » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:54 pm

Guys as great a years as Seattle had to BEGIN to try to compare them to the Steeler D of the 70s isINSANITY Player for player the only Seattle player that could crack the Steeler starting lineup is Sherman .In 1976 for example the pro bowl def roster consisted of 8 Steelers (Of the starting Steeler D of the 70s 10 of 11 players made multiple pro bowls ) Pittsburgh DOMINATED for a decade not a year or 2 as evidenced by a COMBINED 75 PLUS years of probowl experiance (GREENE LAMBERT BLOUNT and HAM are considered amoung the best EVER at their positions .
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Re: This defense and it's place in history

Postby HumanCockroach » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:30 pm

T-iiiii-me is on their side, yes it is....

Much easier to look back, than forward. Seattle has dominated on defense for two years, we'll see where they are in another 8. Add in that Seattle ( NOT Pittsburgh) has the biggest point differential in back to back season compared to the league average, and they aren't playing in the seventies ( simply can't claim free agency has nothing to do with long term success on a unit, do you think without a Cap or Free agency, Seattle loses Bryant, Clemmons, Thurmond, Browner?) We'll see where they go, but last season DOES compare favorably with that team, and there is simply NO way to know whether the players on this defense are "considered" better than those, prior to their careers playing out, none. Thomas, Sherman, Wagner, Kam ALL have a shot to be considered in that same category, at the end of their careers. It doesn't mean they WILL just that they could.

By the way, I would LOVE to see what Thomas and Kam would have done in that defense, something tells me they would indeed have outperformed their counterparts ( if for no other reason than their speed, size and playmaking ability exceeds those in Pittsburgh, as well as the rules this defense HAS to play with, wouldn't exist, allowing them to be even MORE physical than they currently are that forced multiple rule changes to even the playing field).
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Re: This defense and it's place in history

Postby kalibane » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:40 pm

The 70's Steelers also played in an era with no salary cap where the headslap was legal, there was no five yard chuck rule, Offensive linemen couldn't extend their arms to block and QBs weren't treated like porcelin dolls.

If Richard Sherman was allowed to play the way Mel Blount did, do you think anyone would complete a pass on him? If Kam Chancellor was allowed to hit the way Ronnie Lott did, do you think that any WR in the league would venture across the middle? Would Michael Bennet not live in opposing teams' backfields if the guys blocking him couldn't extend their arms?Aside from the fact that your contention that no Seahawk could crack the lineup is pure conjecture on your part with nothing but nostalgia to back it up, It's stupid to compare teams from different eras directly. What you have to do is compare how the teams fared against the opposition in their respective era. What the Seahawks defense did in this era where passing offenses are on steroids is unmatched and unprecedented.

Besides that, one of the best defenses in History was called the no name defense because of the lack of perennial pro-bowlers kind of negates your entire argument.
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Re: This defense and it's place in history

Postby burrrton » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:49 pm

Besides that, one of the best defenses in History was called the no name defense because of the lack of perennial pro-bowlers kind of negates your entire argument.


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