Official Seahawks vs Rams Game Thread

[Hawkstar]

Fine these guys $100 for every yard of penalty they commit. Triple it if it nullifies a TD. MAYBE then they'll get the point.

[monkey]

Russell Wilson...wow.

[savvyman]

Team Wilson Baby!

[savvyman]

Quinn - You ___________ - - -- - - You had better unleashed the hounds on 2nd and 3rd down this series.

[HumanCockroach]

Worst officiating I've seen overall since Feb. 2005. Long, long time. Hitting QB's in slide, PI on a blatant offensive PI, TD called back on a non hold, a punch thrown and landed to a face that does not result in an ejection.... lot of ugly, ugly stuff. Seahawks D has been abused this game, but NO excuse for the lopsided penalty totals, NONE.

[Hawkstar]

Russell Wilson...wow.

Right. He's something else.

[savvyman]

Did you see that stat? Ausitn is 17 for 19

Quinn should be ashamed of himself. Allowing that kind of production form a 3rd string QB

[Hawkstar]

Did you see that stat? Ausitn is 17 for 19

Quinn should be ashamed of himself. Allowing that kind of production form a 3rd string QB

Embarrassing!

We can't seem to tackle him.

[savvyman]

2nd and long agains a 4 man rush?? Almost another 1st?

[Hawkstar]

Sherman has made some great plays today!

[savvyman]

Game Set Match

[Zorn76]

What. A. Joke.

[savvyman]

Rams should never had the opportunity for 4th and short. On 2nd and 10 if Quinn would have sent a 5th pass rusher - Just like on the Dallas game when it was 3rd and 17 and quinn only sent 4 - then both those play would have been QB sacks and game would be ours.

[savvyman]

I am so pissed about quinn's play calling costing us these games I am not going to capitalize the Q whenever I write quinn's name

[Hawkstar]

WTF just happened??

[Hawk Sista]

Wow! Just wow.

[Hawkstar]

What was the call on the fumble? Did they say their lineman recovered it? If anything either Sherman or Burley (I think it was him) had it.

It's as if they don't want a team to repeat. For F&#Ks sake, that was horrid way to end a putrid game. The ST's coach had his ASS handed to him.

[Zorn76]

Take your pick - but Special Teams had as much to do with this loss as either the D or offense.

Fisher is notorious for doing stunts like this - and he's done them plenty against us, practically every time we play these guys.

The punt return was inexcusable, and the fake punt was equally bad. You HAVE to account for ANY eligible receiver for the punt team in this case.

It's a team loss, but special teams played a significant role in dropping a key division game.

[Hawk Sista]

There's a lot to like about Wilson & sherman. Moving forward - we have big problems w/ depth (or lack thereof). We are not alone though. We just got beat by a third string QB.

[FolkCrusader]

They ruled that Mason was down by contact before the fumble. Replay showed the ball was clearly out before he was down. They never did say who recovered the ball but it appeared it was under Sherman the last I saw of it. The replay official should have stopped play and reviewed it, but they did not.

[FolkCrusader]

There's a lot to like about Wilson & sherman. Moving forward - we have big problems w/ depth (or lack thereof). We are not alone though. We just got beat by a third string QB.

Fourth string Sista

[Hawk Sista]

Take your pick - but Special Teams had as much to do with this loss as either the D or offense.

Fisher is notorious for doing stunts like this - and he's done them plenty against us, practically every time we play these guys.

The punt return was inexcusable, and the fake punt was equally bad. You HAVE to account for ANY eligible receiver for the punt team in this case.

It's a team loss, but special teams played a significant role in dropping a key division game.

ST gimmicks and the Rams are synonymous. Why it's a surprise is the bigger surprise. Really.

[Hawkstar]

Take your pick - but Special Teams had as much to do with this loss as either the D or offense.

Fisher is notorious for doing stunts like this - and he's done them plenty against us, practically every time we play these guys.

The punt return was inexcusable, and the fake punt was equally bad. You HAVE to account for ANY eligible receiver for the punt team in this case.

It's a team loss, but special teams played a significant role in dropping a key division game.

You think? The punt return will be shown for years for how badly they were fooled. Simply owned by Fisher and crew today. Unbelievable balls to call fake punt, inside your own 20, up by two points late in the 4th. Crazy! I guess we'll see it all this season.

[obiken]

HS, the Rams went up on the Niners 14-3. A lot of us on this site, including me, predicted this. You are spot on, our best player on defense last year was our depth. We rotated a lot more DLineman, and DB's, we just don't have them this year. Moreover, the Offense that at times last year was anemic, like against Zona at home, is not that much better.

[Anthony]

HS, the Rams went up on the Niners 14-3. A lot of us on this site, including me, predicted this. You are spot on, our best player on defense last year was our depth. We rotated a lot more DLineman, and DB's, we just don't have them this year. Moreover, the Offense that at times last year was anemic, like against Zona at home, is not that much better.

So I agree with most of what you say. However once we got past the stupid scripted plays the offense looked good. we had way over 400 yards, scored 26 points on the road. Not to say the offense does not need help they do specifically the oline. Rw had a great game, as did our Wr and Lynch played well as well. All that said we need to improve our oline and get a true #1 wr and the offense is fine. The defense I have no clue what is up there.

[Zorn76]

You think? The punt return will be shown for years for how badly they were fooled. Simply owned by Fisher and crew today. Unbelievable balls to call fake punt, inside your own 20, up by two points late in the 4th. Crazy! I guess we'll see it all this season.

When you're 1-4 going in and with little to no shot at a playoff position, you do things like this, and the Seahawks should know better.

[Hawkstar]

So I agree with most of what you say. However once we got past the stupid scripted plays the offense looked good. we had way over 400 yards, scored 26 points on the road. Not to say the offense does not need help they do specifically the oline. Rw had a great game, as did our Wr and Lynch played well as well. All that said we need to improve our oline and get a true #1 wr and the offense is fine. The defense I have no clue what is up there.[/quote]


Good point - the O is far from perfect, but they certainly played well enough for us to win. Wilson was brilliant. Lynch would have been closer to a 100 yards, but he had a couple of 10+ yard runs called back because of penalties. Speaking of Penalties ~ we're really good them! 10 today? Another TD nullified. First and goal from the 4 or so on our first drive to settling for a FG? Come on Pete, clean it up!

[Hawkstar]

When you're 1-4 going in and with little to no shot at a playoff position, you do things like this, and the Seahawks should know better.[/quote]

No excuses. We were torched twice on ST, each on gimmicks. Shame on us.

[Hawk Sista]

Our offense wasn't the problem, Obi. Our O got 463 yards & 26 points on the road against a decent D - this should win us the game.

The differences (obviously) in this game were ST, penalties (deserved), bad officiating & injury replacements. I know all teams have the latter, including the Rams so it's not an excuse. Not having Miller, Unger and Ware on O and not having Bobby & Maxi really hurt + Chancellor is @ about 60%. Simon had one good play & @ least 2 negative plays before getting hurt AGAIN. I'm only pointing this out because our depth and being/staying relatively healthy helped us to get in a flow. We lack depth and we are getting injuries. Not a good combo moving forward.

I dunno what the lack of QB pressure is about. I don't think Quinn trusts the 2ndary.

[Seahawks4Ever]

Jeff Fisher is known for calling trick plays. This is not the first time Fisher has called a trick play that our team has fallen for. We got out coached today, especially on ST. How does our ST coach NOT have the team ready for a fake punt when our team has given a few of them up already this season????

This game has me more pizzed off than I have been in a long long time.

My posts are late because I had to record the game because it is our grand daughter's 21 birthday and it was more important to help her celebrate than to watch the game live. I had to work hard not to know the out come but I feel like I wasted my time watching the recording. I am more angry than DB ever could be.

[HumanCockroach]

What was the call on the fumble? Did they say their lineman recovered it? If anything either Sherman or Burley (I think it was him) had it.

It's as if they don't want a team to repeat. For F&#Ks sake, that was horrid way to end a putrid game. The ST's coach had his ASS handed to him.

Ruled recovered by the first guy, who had the ball squirted out of originally. Sherman handed it to ref from bottom of pile, and Blandino claims there was no clear angle to see who had the ball. Crap, all crap. Good news is, the Boys just got jobbed in NY, so at least it is universal across the board.

[savvyman]

#teammotherfuckingwilson

I missed this during the game. How was this not trending nationwide?

[Hawk Sista]

Exactly! Who knows Savvy Man, maybe it was the loss.

[monkey]

I realize that we all need time to vent and properly digest the loss, but I just have to say that, the sky is NOT falling!
I came away from this game ELATED with how well our offense responded to the loss of Harvin. They looked much better!

Clearly right now our defense is suffering from too many injuries, especially in that secondary.
And yes, the offensive line is still a sore point, but I saw signs of life even from that line in the second half, despite and injuries to now two centers, and despite our LT clearly playing through an injury.

I realize we lost, but we were the CLEARLY more talented team, who dominated in nearly every area the second half. Those are positive signs folks...we have WAY too much season left to play to start going into the sky is falling mode!

[mykc14]

I realize that we all need time to vent and properly digest the loss, but I just have to say that, the sky is NOT falling!
I came away from this game ELATED with how well our offense responded to the loss of Harvin. They looked much better!

Clearly right now our defense is suffering from too many injuries, especially in that secondary.
And yes, the offensive line is still a sore point, but I saw signs of life even from that line in the second half, despite and injuries to now two centers, and despite our LT clearly playing through an injury.

I realize we lost, but we were the CLEARLY more talented team, who dominated in nearly every area the second half. Those are positive signs folks...we have WAY too much season left to play to start going into the sky is falling mode!

I don't feel nearly as bad this game as last week either, but unfortunelty an achilles heel is starting to show and it is not a new one; pass rush. If it doesn't somehow get fixed, and the only way I see that happening is with some sort of tade, we will be where we were two years ago; on the road in the playoffs having to score 33 points to win.

[Hawk Sista]

Yeah.... Last week hurt more to me too. Likely because it was at home and we looked so bad in every phase. Anemic. Nothing to be happy about. We were better than the scoreboard showed today, last week it was the opposite. Still a loss is a loss and we have some problems that'll be tough to fix. As ET said, we are not the same team as last year. As big as losing any one player is the lack of depth.

But really, last year at this point, we could have easily had this same record at this point w/ just an inch or two here and a ball bounce in our favor there. Even in our ugliest loss this year, we were w/in a play or two of winning. The trouble is, we have a tough schedule and some nfc teams at 6 wins. Yikes.

[monkey]

and the only way I see that happening is with some sort of tade.

I agree that the lack of pass rush is REALLY bad right now, and I would agree with anyone who said that, at the moment it's the biggest problem, even more pressing than the O-Line problems, BUT I think that the pass rush will come around a bit, with the return to health of our secondary.
Personally I don't think a trade is necessary. Health is the bigger issue IMO, though CLEARLY the loss of D-Line depth is playing a role.

[Anthony]

I agree that the lack of pass rush is REALLY bad right now, and I would agree with anyone who said that, at the moment it's the biggest problem, even more pressing than the O-Line problems, BUT I think that the pass rush will come around a bit, with the return to health of our secondary.
Personally I don't think a trade is necessary. Health is the bigger issue IMO, though CLEARLY the loss of D-Line depth is playing a role.

agree pass rush is a huge problem not sure it is worse than the o-line. We do not fix that and we might not have our Franchise QB for a awhile. He took some shots today

[Zorn76]

I realize that we all need time to vent and properly digest the loss, but I just have to say that, the sky is NOT falling!
I came away from this game ELATED with how well our offense responded to the loss of Harvin. They looked much better!

Clearly right now our defense is suffering from too many injuries, especially in that secondary.
And yes, the offensive line is still a sore point, but I saw signs of life even from that line in the second half, despite and injuries to now two centers, and despite our LT clearly playing through an injury.

I realize we lost, but we were the CLEARLY more talented team, who dominated in nearly every area the second half. Those are positive signs folks...we have WAY too much season left to play to start going into the sky is falling mode!

I hear ya, monkey, and share the optimism in terms of there are 10 games left in this season.

That said, this was a BAD loss. Division games are Crucial, on top of another loss in the conference, obviously.

It was a comeback that should not have been necessary to begin with. That's how I see this game. All 3 units played a part. 6 pts by a first half offense that didn't wake up until it was too late, a defense that got Schooled in the 1st half by Austin Davis, and a ST group that is usually solid but could be argued that they cost us the game single handedly.

Our team has dug themselves into a deep hole the last two weeks, and have not (so far) been able to overcome this kind of crap like they did a year ago. It's tiresome and sloppy.

The Seahawks are also not good enough to overcome the penalties they're racking up, either. I tip my hat to the Rams for pulling this one off as well.

Meanwhile, we have no gimme in Carolina next week. There is no such thing as a gimme with our team anymore. Will they respond? Hope so. Otherwise, we likely end up battling for a WC rather than the division titile.

Go Seahawks!

[Hawk Sista]

The o-line is about like it was at this point last year; it's not our best unit by a mile. Still, Okung is wounded, Unger is out and Britt & Sweezy show a high ceiling, IMHO... I don't know WTF to make of carp. He can be so beast-like one play & bring back a TD on the next. Even w/ those issues, our offense is far from our biggest issue.

The lack of a pass rush (and the turnovers that pressure creates) strikes me as the biggest current issue. Ealier I mentioned that our record last year at this point coul have very easily been 3-3. Our o-line was a mess but our Dline was getting after it. This year, we have 7 sacks after 6 games. SEVEN !!!! That's VS.16 at this point last year. There is a big gap in take-aways from last year to this year at common points. There is such an obvious link to pressure and take-aways. In fact, all due respect to Malcolm Smith, Avril's pressure on Mr. Manning gave him my nod for MVP of the SB. Every beautiful turn over was the result of relentless sexy pressure.

The lack of pressure & depth (as I keep saying) on D are the key differences this year. Even the lapses on ST are related to our lack of depth.

These are the issues that plague the Lombardi trophy winners year in and year out. While all 32 teams are an ACL away from real trouble, we are still in this thing, we are not done by any stretch. We've gotta reel off some Ws here pretty quick though. Starting w/ the panthers.