Trouble in Paradise

[Uppercut]

I feel like I had a neighbor family move in a few years back and they were the model family with no issues at all, sqeecky clean. Suddenly I am told that the mom and dad are meth freaks and abusers and the kids are on drugs and have criminal records and they are all in or need counseling.

Seahawks seem to be unraveling fast and may need a thorough flushing of bad elements.

[rottweiler]

I feel like I had a neighbor family move in a few years back and they were the model family with no issues at all, sqeecky clean. Suddenly I am told that the mom and dad are meth freaks and abusers and the kids are on drugs and have criminal records and they are all in or need counseling.

Seahawks seem to be unraveling fast and may need a thorough flushing of bad elements.

A good analogy.

Tell us what you know.

[Uppercut]

I don't know much! Just it seems from articles the great persona was not what it seemed.

[RiverDog]

And here we were a couple weeks ago talking about a possible Niners implosion.

[obiken]

That's it we are not dead we are in trouble. Injuries as I said last week are the biggest concern. Today was just another bad game, but we are going to get to the point that so many starters are gone that we cannot perform. Unger is the center they call the line signals, RO is wounded, and BW is out for a while. Once we get them all back we can still make a decent playoff run, no we cannot win the title again this year, but we can go down swinging isn't that what champions are supposed to do?

[RiverDog]

That's it we are not dead we are in trouble. Injuries as I said last week are the biggest concern. Today was just another bad game, but we are going to get to the point that so many starters are gone that we cannot perform. Unger is the center they call the line signals, RO is wounded, and BW is out for a while. Once we get them all back we can still make a decent playoff run, no we cannot win the title again this year, but we can go down swinging isn't that what champions are supposed to do?

I'm watching the Niners struggle, down 14-0. Kinda puts things in perspective.

[mykc14]

That's it we are not dead we are in trouble. Injuries as I said last week are the biggest concern. Today was just another bad game, but we are going to get to the point that so many starters are gone that we cannot perform. Unger is the center they call the line signals, RO is wounded, and BW is out for a while. Once we get them all back we can still make a decent playoff run, no we cannot win the title again this year, but we can go down swinging isn't that what champions are supposed to do?

Man, I woudn't be so sure about that. IMO we are much closer than people think to putting this all together. There is no doubt we lost a game today that we should have won but there is nothing to suggest that we can't back to the form we were last year. We were injured last year and fought through it. I wouldn't doubt this team until they are out. RW and the offense are starting to find their form, even with the O-line issues. The secondary is beat to hell, but is actually playing pretty well. The biggest issue is the pass rush, IMO and although there isn't much help for that in sight we were still close with the same issue two years ago. Would it of surprised you, the way we were playing, if we won the SB two years ago? RW improvment since then should be enough to keep you all in. WE CAN STILL DO THIS! I look at it 2 ways: #1Every year we are going to have a chance because RW is our QB, so we obviulsy still have a chance this year. #2 There is no doubt in my mind that RW is going to lead us to more SB's so everygame, win or lose, is moving us towards our next SB. Until we are mathmatically out or the clock strikes 0 and we lose a playoff game we still have a chance at a trophy that year. We are not out yet!

[Zorn76]

Gotta regroup for next week in Carolina, which won't be easy no matter how bad they looked today in GB. As it stands, we can't take anybody lightly right now, particularly on the road, especially after the sloppy contest we had in Stl today.

At 3-3, it's not too early for doing some playoff math. In all likelihood, it's going to take 10 wins to get WC playoff spot. 9-7 just typically doesn't cut it, and there are too many competitive teams to think that a single digit win season gets you into the playoffs.

That means 7-3 the rest of the way. Each loss from here on out really affects our chances. If we lose to the Panthers, then we're looking at only affording 2 more losses for the remainder of the year.

The Seahawks, right now, are not playing well enough to think they can win 7/10. That's why they need this road win next week to get back on track.

For the division crown, realistically, it will take 11 or 12 W's to retain it. That means 9-2 or 8-2 the rest of the way. Again, we better start getting hot to even flirt with that idea right now.

I have faith that this team can still overcome just about anything. But this season clearly is different than last, and things just aren't going our way in tight games after getting blown out during the 1st half.

IMO, if we drop this game to the Panthers next week, than our chances of making the playoffs are 50/50, at best.

[RiverDog]

IMO, if we drop this game to the Panthers next week, than our chances of making the playoffs are 50/50, at best.

It's all relative to our division. Arizona has opened up a 2 game lead on us and the Niners (in the loss column) and you have to think that their bubble will burst at some point. 5 of our 6 divisional games come in the 2nd half of the season. I could see us getting in this year with a 9-7 record, so as far as our mathematical chances of making the playoffs goes, it's not as big as you think.

But the emotional let down of losing 3 in a row would be huge. Given the turmoil we've gone through, or perhaps still going through, it is essential that we get this team back on the winning track. We lose this game and we could be in for a runaway train ride towards a washed out bridge like we had in 2009 under Mora. And please, don't tell me that Pete Carroll is no Jim Mora. I know that. But PC's lost some considerable credibility in my eyes over this Harvin fiasco, that he'd let it get this far.

[THX-1138]

It's all relative to our division. Arizona has opened up a 2 game lead on us and the Niners (in the loss column) and you have to think that their bubble will burst at some point. 5 of our 6 divisional games come in the 2nd half of the season. I could see us getting in this year with a 9-7 record, so as far as our mathematical chances of making the playoffs goes, it's not as big as you think.

But the emotional let down of losing 3 in a row would be huge. Given the turmoil we've gone through, or perhaps still going through, it is essential that we get this team back on the winning track. We lose this game and we could be in for a runaway train ride towards a washed out bridge like we had in 2009 under Mora. And please, don't tell me that Pete Carroll is no Jim Mora. I know that. But PC's lost some considerable credibility in my eyes over this Harvin fiasco, that he'd let it get this far.

I cant get too mad at PC for the Harvin deal. It's like getting to date the super hot chick who turns your life upside down. She drains your bank account and starts fights and turns your friends against you. But you shouldn't lose credibility for it since just about everyone single guy you know would have made the same decision as you at the time. Harvin's skillset is too incredible to ignore. And NOBODY could predict how deeply caustic his locker room presence was. I predicted before the Harvin trade that it was going to be extremely difficult to make the playoffs the way the team is playing. The D is really struggling compared to last year and Harvin zero to do with that. But I really feel that Pete should be given a bit more latitude from us fans as the alternatives are absolutely untenable.

[SalmonBB]

Thing I was inspired by yesterday was it seemed like we got back to football basics, with a little fire added, in the second half. The Harvin threat was a good trick in the Superbowl, and a little effective out of the gate this year ... but it doesn't replace well executed and basic offensive schemes, and it wasn't working anymore. Our offense was playing great football in the second half; the defense was finally holding their own. The Special teams were upsetting throughout, but that's something that can be more readily fixed.

My main concerns right now include pass rush, and that Right-side CB. Can't wait to get Maxwell back, because Simon was a fricking self-destruction button that kept getting pushed.

I was irritated by the poor officiating (terrible holding calls, and then the failure to review the fumble play), but that's the way it goes sometimes. The loss was mainly on us, and the Rams played good enough to win.

Carolina is going to be tough, but I also think the Seahawks will be tough. While I'm tired of the "healthy losses," I think yesterday might have been our team's turning point. Hoping that's the case, at least.

GO SEAHAWKS!!!

[Long Time Fan]

And please, don't tell me that Pete Carroll is no Jim Mora. I know that. But PC's lost some considerable credibility in my eyes over this Harvin fiasco, that he'd let it get this far.

How about Jim Mora is no Pete Carroll? jk.

My perspective; PC gained further creditability in my eyes by not letting it go any further. After the Dallas game was the earliest that this could have gone down. The FO deserved the offseason to try to "fix" Percy. RW was willing to work with Percy. The Gb showed a glimpse of what the offense could be with Percy. The Washington game called back 3 Harvin tds and PC was effusive in his praise for Harvin afterward. Quitting on the time against Dallas was the last straw and first opportunity to correct a forgivable gamble.

You judge PC on this issue unfairly.

[rottweiler]

Thing I was inspired by yesterday was it seemed like we got back to football basics, with a little fire added, in the second half. The Harvin threat was a good trick in the Superbowl, and a little effective out of the gate this year ... but it doesn't replace well executed and basic offensive schemes, and it wasn't working anymore. Our offense was playing great football in the second half; the defense was finally holding their own. The Special teams were upsetting throughout, but that's something that can be more readily fixed.

My main concerns right now include pass rush, and that Right-side CB. Can't wait to get Maxwell back, because Simon was a fricking self-destruction button that kept getting pushed.

I was irritated by the poor officiating (terrible holding calls, and then the failure to review the fumble play), but that's the way it goes sometimes. The loss was mainly on us, and the Rams played good enough to win.

Carolina is going to be tough, but I also think the Seahawks will be tough. While I'm tired of the "healthy losses," I think yesterday might have been our team's turning point. Hoping that's the case, at least.

GO SEAHAWKS!!!

At least we can take some pleasure in knowing that the Panthers defense is for some strange reason not the same frighteningly-vaunted, stingy defense of the 2013 season. Bottom quarter of the League, they are:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-st ... e-category

A good thing, that.

The thing that scares me the most about the Panthers is how proficient they are at claiming turnovers. Top quarter:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/tu ... n-per-game

Both teams for the most part evenly-matched across the board, stat-wise. Should be an interesting game.

I hope the jet lag doesn't take too big of a toll on the Hawks.