You are unfingbelievable. Yes those guys do make great plays off of improvisation, but they don't attempt do so with even remotely with the same frequency that Russell Wilson does and they've also proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are far better pocket passers
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No, they don't make those plays as "frequently" ( you know the "special" plays) if you are using percentage of their throws ( ie Wilson has less check down dump offs and 5 yard passes to inflate his opportunities, so he absolutely has a higher percentage of "special" plays amongst his lower amount of opportunities). You may be the only person in history attempting to discredit a player for having a HIGHER percentgage of explosive plays amongst opportunities in the history of fandom, but knock yourself the hell out. If you're asserting that Wilson couldn't complete an additional 10 to 15 check passes to a back or FB out of the backfield you are more clueless than anyone before now believed possible.
It's common sense to believe that Vets who have learned and honed this ability over 9+ yrs would be better than a guy just finishing his 3rd yr, yet you don't get it. You pontificate this asenine logic where Russell Wilson "could do these other QBs do if he has to, and does when needed". LOL right. He arrived in the NFL as a fully developed MVP QB and could toss the ball around the yard for 300+ a game and carry your team like every other great QB.
Do I really have to go back to some old threads here and post what you guys were saying at 3-3 when Hawks were trying to have this guy carry your team?
Remember when I posted what Greg Cosell said about Russell Wilson?
"He runs a rudimentary O up in Seattle. They rely on him to improvise".
True, they DO rely on him to "improvise", probably because he is already the BEST at doing so in the NFL at this point, but posting someone who obviously didn't pay much attention to what the man did BEFORE being inserted into a system, that for all intents and purposes was NOT suited to Wilsons strengths, and to see him set record after record, do things that NO QB in ANY System in the history of the game, in said system, isn't buffeting your case OR statements.
To be clear, Wilson is a WEST COAST OFFENSE , RYTHM PASSER who ran a PRO OFFENSE his ENTIRE collegiant career, and set NATIONAL records, MULTIPLE times, RUNNING said offense. You continue to dismiss those facts, but for all of your "experts" stupidity on the matter, and YOUR insistence on ignoring it, those ARE the facts. The man adjusted his game to what was NEEDED from the coaches, in the offense he runs. Something that those 9 yr veterans often cannot accomplish.
I've been telling you this for damn near 3 years now, and the funniest part of it was reading your own fans post how sick they were of all the screens that Bevel was calling (remember how we argued over that?), that the Hawks needed to return to the run. Pretty much everything I've posted here which was met with vitriol was then posted by people here in an almost apologetic tone; "He can't do this without weapons. The play calling is terrible. How do you not feedLynch?"
There you go - you said the exact same thing yourself yourself. When the Hawks did put the ball in Wilson's hands and didn't run Lynch V a crap Cowboy D, you got 127 YDs passing and an L. Please do not tell me that Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo or any number of QBs would not have eaten up the opportunity to have their RB only touch it 10 times V a weak D. They'd relish it. And 9 out of 10 times they'd be on Sportscenter with a 300+ YD day and multiple TDs. If they had given it to Lynch and Hawks had won that game with Wilson posting paltry numbers, you'd be the first to offer the same claim that he "could have done more if he had to". No, obviously he couldn't have.
Lets clear this up, first of all, you YOURSELF pointed out that no matter how great the QB is they "sometimes fail" you got ONE damn game, and you KEEP going back to it, I have ALREADY provided those stats FOR you big guy, and WILSON leads RODGERS,ROMO,BREES,BRADY in that regard over the last three seasons, and here you are insisting opposite. Are you thick? Dumb? Or just slow? I'm not trying to trash you here, but only someone with some serious issues would continue to assert this latching onto a single game as "proof" and then compare him to guys that have had that issue MORE regularily than the player you are attempting to discredit. I thought you were one of those "smart, lawyerly type dudes with no access to the internet or computer", stuff like that certainly doesn't make you seem anything of the sort.
Second Wilson has MORE fourth quarter comebacks in the last three years than ANY of those on the list ( yep including I f*cked the pooch, now I'll pull my arse out of the fire, by coming back against Tenessee Luck), so obviously, unless you are an idiot, moron, or blind, the man can indeed win from the pocket ( well that and the whole 4th in the NFL over those three years QBR wise from said pocket, that WITH a horrible pocket) but here's the thing you can't seem to grasp, the thing that MAKES him special, he CAN beat you from the pocket, and WILL if you let him, just like the rest, however, unlike the rest ( with the exception of Rodgers, sort of) if you take that away from him, he'll beat you with his legs, or he'll improvise and beat you that way..... He is the ONLY QB I can think of that not only CAN beat you numerous different ways, BUT does it CONSISTENTLY in different ways.
On top of that, ANYONE that claims a QB that has thrown for over 300 and run for a 100 ( the only player to ever do so) and is the only man to have passed for over 300 and run for over 85 twice in the same season, and the ONLY man to ever have passed for over 200 and run for 100 twice in a career ( that also just happened to be in the SAME season) "can't carry a team" is absolutely moronic. Read those stats again, yep, that's the guy you are insisting, can't offensively carry his team based on a random game here or there, the same man who has NEVER lost ANY game in his LIFE by more than 8 points ( his life, I suppose that he and beast mode and this defense were born at the same time and shared blocks all the way through Seattle) you excuses are thin, played, and pointless. You want to discredit him? Fine, show your ignorance, I'm sure there were those saying the same about Rice, Montana and Lott as well, there is always the guy who can't accept, or appreciate greatness, looks like it's you this time..
Yes Wilson played poorly against the boys, doesn't change anything about running the ball ( and spare us the any other QB with only ten rushes would "shred" that D crapola, doesn't work that damn way and every QB on your list has done the SAME, MORE. Often than Wilson)
Russell Wilson is not a great pocket passer. Period. And that is job one for a QB. So if you ask me who I trust the most, he is close to the bottom of that list.
And this is an undefendable OPINION based on imaginary made up criteria, nothing more, no different than me insisting Joe Montana was anything more than a hack of a QB with so much talent around him, and a system QB unable to perform at an adequate level in anything other than a gimmick offense ( exactly what the WC offense was considered at the time) a great running game and defense that "carried" him to every title and accomplishment the man ever received, which was proven by a bust that was able to walk into the same gimmick offense surrounded by the same talent, and win multiple SB's, obviously ANY QB could do the same.
