Prisco says Wilson closer to Tebow than Brady

[Anthony]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... -tom-brady

[HumanCockroach]

You NEVER go full retard Prisco.

[Zorn76]

Prisco = Loser.

[curmudgeon]

In a place where there is a never ending supply, Prisco is the biggest tool in the shed.........

[kalibane]

Even his own colleagues at CBS Sports were mocking Prisco after the NFC Championship Game saying he was probably in his living room in his underwear shadow boxing in celebration halfway through the 4th quarter purely because Russell Wilson was having a bad game.

His hate boner for Russell Wilson is down right pathetic at this point. Even if we were living in an alternate reality where Russell Wilson was closer to Tebow than Brady you're the senior football writer at a major sporting outlet, it's the best match up (on paper) in about 10 years and what's the angle you find to write/talk about? You do a hit piece on one of the players. It's embarrassing.

[monkey]

I think Pete Prisco is trying to be seen as ahead of the curve, by being the first official media Seahawks troll.

[burrrton]

Bleh. Dull.

He's like Futureite with a pen- got too invested in this stupid argument a long time ago, so now every bad game (or partial game) is proof he's right, every good game is a gift from his defense, or the result of Lynch's running, or [insert excuse pulled from @ss /].

[burrrton]

I think Pete Prisco is trying to be seen as ahead of the curve, by being the first official media Seahawks troll.

I think he's trying to find something to say to drive hits to his column and stand out in this week of media frenzy.

[monkey]

Yep, you're right Burrrton.
It does work sadly. He's a bait and click expert, but he keeps claiming titles such as "football expert" and "objective journalist" which just don't apply to him at all.

[RiverDog]

His statements are oxymoronic. He says that Tebow is a bull that runs over people and Russell runs around people, then says Russell is a much accurate passer. I agree with that analysis, but how does that make them similar? He has more in common with Brady. Both are accurate passers, both have multiple SB appearances, and both were chosen in the later rounds.

Everything about Russell and Tebow is different. Tebow is big, Russell is small. Tebow is left handed, Russell is right handed. Tebow is white, Russell is black. Tebow was a #1 draft choice that his team traded up to get, Russell was a 3rd rounder that everyone passed on at least twice. And the biggest difference of all, Russell has a job as a starting NFL QB, Tebow is nothing more than an analyst for a college football TV network.

So tell me again what the similarities are. They are both religious?

[kalibane]

I think he's trying to find something to say to drive hits to his column and stand out in this week of media frenzy.

That's definitely part of it but that's exactly why it's so pathetic. He's the senior NFL writer for CBS. He's supposed to be the guy for them who upholds the journalistic line while the loose cannon junior writers play the Skip Bayless role.

But I also want to stress it's only part of it. I wasn't kidding when I said that his own colleagues were mocking him after the NFC championship game. On the same podcast where he made these comments the regulars who produce the podcast were cracking jokes about Prisco shadow boxing because his anti Wilson bias is that big a part of his current league view. These aren't Seahawk fans they are his subordinates that are publically acknowledging what a clown he is about this subject.

Even in the comments of this article and the column he wrote comparing Brady and Wilson the vast majority of comments from non Seahawk fans are about how ridiculous Prisco has gotten on this subject.

[Hawktawk]

Prisco intends it as an insult but I bet Wilson would take it as a compliment. Both are strong Christian men. Both are hard working,charismatic, highly intelligent, and students of the game. Both are unconventional QB's who can torch teams with their feet. Both show a knack for winning in hopeless situations even when playing poorly . Both have their accomplishments mocked because it is all supposedly the work of a great defense.

Obviously there are many differences as well. Wilson is at a skill level far above Tebow and far above virtually any QB alive. But I doubt he would be insulted by those comments as much as his fans are.

[burrrton]

That's definitely part of it but that's exactly why it's so pathetic. He's the senior NFL writer for CBS.

Good point- agreed.

[Seahawks4Ever]

Uh, it is an insult to people who are D.D. because they at least have an excuse. Some of the most intelligent people in the world can let their bias get in the way and say something stupid. Now, someone who is impaired might say something puzzling, but they can't help it, they were born that way.

Now, usually I would go off on someone who uses the "R" word but in this case I know it wasn't used maliciously. My daughter is Developmentally Disabled, she is what is called "delayed". She didn't get there at the same time frame as other kids her age but she did get there, and she had to work twice as hard too. She graduated High School and she is independent. She takes care of her own place and her own finances and she knows the public transportation system and navigates it going between buss transfer stations, light rail, and back to busses with ease. If she needs to go some where she gets on either her lap top or Galaxy Phone and looks it up. We started her early on a road to independence by teaching her to do her own laundry and how to cook, and I don't mean putting a T.V. dinner into the microwave. One of her teachers once told us that she had learned as much as she was going to learn and that would never learn to read and write. Enter the computer, she used a Apple computer at school so we bought a P.C. so that she would know both systems. She had used the Mavis Bacon Typing program at school, we bought her one for home and she basically taught her self to type. That program also taught her 10 key and how to use a cash register. She knows that if she wants something she will have to work for it and that she does a lot better financially if she has a job than just collecting disability. She is over 30 years of age now and does quite well and my wife and I are very proud of her. Like I said, she has had to work a lot harder to get to where she is at than kids who were not born with a learning problem.

She and many of people who are in the same boat are on line and they read hurt full words like the "R" word, a word that was used to humiliate them by so called normal kids. She and others work and pay their taxes and contribute to the betterment of our society and don't deserve to be ridiculed. Yet, when they see someone use that word as an insult it still stings. Oh, and she is a die hard Seahawks fan (she is my daughter, how could she not?) and we were at the parade a year ago and we even made the paper!

[RiverDog]

The part that bothers me most in this kind of exchange, is the idea that the commentators and analysts are somehow more important than the players. There is a suggestion implied that the players would not be what they are with our us media promoting them. Total nonsense.

When I had a TV, I used to turn off the audio for some of the games,because I was not into depending upon the announcing team. The idea that the players somehow owe a story to a reporter is bizarre. They are played to perform, and while they should make themselves available to talk to, they should be required to spout platitudes?

When in the stands, do you need a commentator? Do you need someone to tell you what is important? In my mind, not at all.

There are a great many competent and capable reporters doing sports today (and, frankly sports is one of the only areas when a reporter can do his job), and I applaud them, but there are all to many flacks out there who only make their nut by spieling bile. Much of what I have seen on sports TV has been building controversy in order to build a story.

Back in the 80's, I used to turn off the sound on the TV and turn on the radio broadcast. The radio broadcast was a second or so ahead of the TV feed, but it was tolerable. I enjoyed Pete Gross's call. He had this high pitched voice that really spiked when we scored, emphasizing the first syllable..." TOUCHdown, Seahawks! Now there is a huge difference in timing between the two feeds, making my previous method impractical.

Listening to the radio call was more helpful to a novice as they are more descriptive on radio, plus they knew the team, were better on the details, like knowing how to pronounce the names of the players.

But now the radio call is way ahead of the TV feed. I've written to the local radio station that carries the Hawks and asked them if the can't induce a 2 or 3 second time delay. They said they'd look into it and that's the last I heard from them.

Oh, well....

[HumanCockroach]

Uh, it is an insult to people who are D.D. because they at least have an excuse. Some of the most intelligent people in the world can let their bias get in the way and say something stupid. Now, someone who is impaired might say something puzzling, but they can't help it, they were born that way.

Now, usually I would go off on someone who uses the "R" word but in this case I know it wasn't used maliciously. My daughter is Developmentally Disabled, she is what is called "delayed". She didn't get there at the same time frame as other kids her age but she did get there, and she had to work twice as hard too. She graduated High School and she is independent. She takes care of her own place and her own finances and she knows the public transportation system and navigates it going between buss transfer stations, light rail, and back to busses with ease. If she needs to go some where she gets on either her lap top or Galaxy Phone and looks it up. We started her early on a road to independence by teaching her to do her own laundry and how to cook, and I don't mean putting a T.V. dinner into the microwave. One of her teachers once told us that she had learned as much as she was going to learn and that would never learn to read and write. Enter the computer, she used a Apple computer at school so we bought a P.C. so that she would know both systems. She had used the Mavis Bacon Typing program at school, we bought her one for home and she basically taught her self to type. That program also taught her 10 key and how to use a cash register. She knows that if she wants something she will have to work for it and that she does a lot better financially if she has a job than just collecting disability. She is over 30 years of age now and does quite well and my wife and I are very proud of her. Like I said, she has had to work a lot harder to get to where she is at than kids who were not born with a learning problem.

She and many of people who are in the same boat are on line and they read hurt full words like the "R" word, a word that was used to humiliate them by so called normal kids. She and others work and pay their taxes and contribute to the betterment of our society and don't deserve to be ridiculed. Yet, when they see someone use that word as an insult it still stings. Oh, and she is a die hard Seahawks fan (she is my daughter, how could she not?) and we were at the parade a year ago and we even made the paper!

Not sure if this was directed at me or not. It wasn't meant as anything other than it was, it is a quote from a movie ( Tropic Thunder) minus the added "Prisco" part, I never meant for it to be taken seriously in any way, just a line I've seen, and heard quoted quite a bit since the movie, and applied it. If I offended you ( or anyone else for that matter) by using it, I appologise.

[obiken]

Prisco is an idiot, you cant compare RW to TB. One has an arm the other doesn't. He is not Brady however. He cant stand in the pocket and throw time after time. However, he doesn't have Gronk or the Pat OL.

[Hawktawk]

Prisco is an idiot, you cant compare RW to TB. One has an arm the other doesn't. He is not Brady however. He cant stand in the pocket and throw time after time. However, he doesn't have Gronk or the Pat OL.

I do not agree Wilson cant stand in the pocket Obiken. If Wilson had a shutdown O line and receivers who could consistently get separation he could put up 350 yards a game in the air. He holds the rookie playoff passing record of 385. He put up 367 to go with 87 yards rushing in Glendale against a better defense month ago.He won with absolutely perfect pocket passes last week.
And for that matter Brady only averaged about 240 per game in the air this season. His passing schemes are less explosive than Seattle anymore.Its why they have had to add the flim flam O line trickery and wide reciever passes.
IMO the QB position is ADVANTAGE SEATTLE,big time.

[burrrton]

He cant stand in the pocket and throw time after time.

There's a difference between "can't" and "doesn't".

The latter is true, the former is demonstrably false.

[Anthony]

Prisco is an idiot, you cant compare RW to TB. One has an arm the other doesn't. He is not Brady however. He cant stand in the pocket and throw time after time. However, he doesn't have Gronk or the Pat OL.

Gotto disagree he has shown he can when there is a pocket, the difference is one has a good pass blocking oline the other does not, one has arguably the best TE in the other to throw to the other does not. Brady has a 64.5% complt in the pocket. Wilson had a 66.1% inside the pocket. So he can do it, but doe snot get a lot of chances to do it and that is a by product of system, oline, and Wr. Prisco has already shown he does not care about the facts or stats only his biased, hater opinion, heck his own people are knocking him on it.

[RiverDog]

There's a difference between "can't" and "doesn't".

The latter is true, the former is demonstrably false.

That's a good way of putting it. There's nothing that Russell has shown me that he can't do, just some things that he hasn't shown me yet that he can do.

[burrrton]

That's a good way of putting it. There's nothing that Russell has shown me that he can't do, just some things that he hasn't shown me yet that he can do.

I think we agree. I'm just not sure how someone gets from "He's wildly successful at it, but doesn't have the luxury of doing it game after game" to "He'd be unsuccessful if he had the luxury of doing it game after game".

IOW, some people seem to think forcing RW to stay in the pocket is some kind of strategy to defeat him, but going on the evidence, that's only true if you're collapsing the pocket (which happens most of the time with our OL) and/or blanketing our receivers (which happens more often than not), which also, SURPRISE, is how you beat *any* QB, including first-ballot-hall-of-famers.

[HumanCockroach]

Have to say, it really irritates me to hear some knock Wilson for extending plays, turning them into huge plays down the field, and then go on and on about Rodgers, Luck, Rothlisberger for doing EXACTLY that.

Wilson has shown CONSISTENTLY his ability to deliver strikes from the pocket, extending plays when needed, improvising, and tearing the heart out of a defense, yet, fools like Prisco, continue to insist he can't. Anyone that has watched him over more than a couple ESPN highlights sees it and acknowledges it. Hell Bellichick compared him to fricken Staubauch, Montana compared him to himself ( and acknowledged how far AHEAD Wilson was than he was that early in his career), multiple people have compared him to a young Tom Brady, but you have those one or two turd nuggetts that refuse to see what 90% of the nation sees, former players, coaches, fans what have you.... And insist that they have the truth of it... LMAO yeah, OK.