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I feel your pain

Postby Futureite » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:13 pm

Same way ours ended in 2012. Sucks. Trust me, I know. You guys played an incredible game though.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby jshawaii22 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:04 pm

Yeah, somehow I think Crabtree is smiling right now.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby RiverDog » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:52 pm

This one's a little different than any loss the Niners have sustained over the years. The Niners failed to complete passes when passing was a viable option, perhaps their best option. The players were mainly responsible for those losses. This was different. 2nd and goal from the 1 with 30 seconds and one timeout left and we call a pass play into heavy traffic at the goal line? I would have had a problem with that call on 3rd down, let alone 2nd down. This one the majority of the blame has to be hung on the coaching staff, which doesn't absolve Russell of his role. We f#ucked up, plain and simple.

I have racked my brain to think of a worse play call. The only one I can think of was in a regular season game between the Giants and Eagles back in the mid 70's. The older guys will know the game I am talking about, so I won't go into detail.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby Futureite » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:54 pm

Well, that's how this game goes. It's just hard stay on top. Difference between winning and losing is sometimes a play or just the bounce of the ball.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby Futureite » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:01 pm

RiverDog wrote:This one's a little different than any loss the Niners have sustained over the years. The Niners failed to complete passes when passing was a viable option, perhaps their best option. The players were mainly responsible for those losses. This was different. 2nd and goal from the 1 with 30 seconds and one timeout left and we call a pass play into heavy traffic at the goal line? I would have had a problem with that call on 3rd down, let alone 2nd down. This one the majority of the blame has to be hung on the coaching staff, which doesn't absolve Russell of his role. We f#ucked up, plain and simple.

I have racked my brain to think of a worse play call. The only one I can think of was in a regular season game between the Giants and Eagles back in the mid 70's. The older guys will know the game I am talking about, so I won't go into detail.


No, it's exactly the same. 1st and goal from the 4. Our RB doesn't touch it. Yours doesn't. We couldn't hit a TD. You got picked. It couldn't be any more similar if you planned it.

You lost because your D let you down. Same reason we lost.

It sucks.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby NorthHawk » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:08 pm

No, our O let us down (coaching included) on that last play.
I hate to say it, but injuries might have been a big factor near the end with Avril out and the Secondary limping a little.

It's interesting that the NFCW has been in the last 3 Super Bowls with 1 win and 2 game winning drives stopped at the 1.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby Anthony » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:11 pm

RiverDog wrote:This one's a little different than any loss the Niners have sustained over the years. The Niners failed to complete passes when passing was a viable option, perhaps their best option. The players were mainly responsible for those losses. This was different. 2nd and goal from the 1 with 30 seconds and one timeout left and we call a pass play into heavy traffic at the goal line? I would have had a problem with that call on 3rd down, let alone 2nd down. This one the majority of the blame has to be hung on the coaching staff, which doesn't absolve Russell of his role. We f#ucked up, plain and simple.

I have racked my brain to think of a worse play call. The only one I can think of was in a regular season game between the Giants and Eagles back in the mid 70's. The older guys will know the game I am talking about, so I won't go into detail.


of course not, Wilson always has some blame in anything that goes wrong.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby RiverDog » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:41 pm

Futureite wrote:No, it's exactly the same. 1st and goal from the 4. Our RB doesn't touch it. Yours doesn't. We couldn't hit a TD. You got picked. It couldn't be any more similar if you planned it.

You lost because your D let you down. Same reason we lost.

It sucks.


It's not the same at all. Your coaches never made such a stupid play call. Never. This one is 90% on our coaching staff.

And while our defense didn't play lights out, considering the injuries we were dealing with, they did OK and kept us in the game. Everything hinged on one play.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby Hawk Sista » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:00 pm

How did I know your ass would be chirping in here today? Classless dig in a "I feel your pain" suit from a classless guy.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby Futureite » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:45 am

River;

Our coaches were lambasted by fans and the media for the exact same thing - calling 3 straight passes from the 3 and not allowing Gore to touch the ball. I don't see how it is different, at all.

The other part is, Carroll put the ball in the hands of his QB. It was RW's decision to make that throw, his ball placement, his play. You could lay blame any which way you want, but I would not blame a coach for putting the ball in the hands of one of his best players in crunch time.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/2/1/79 ... frank-gore
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby Futureite » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:56 am

Hawk Sista wrote:How did I know your ass would be chirping in here today? Classless dig in a "I feel your pain" suit from a classless guy.


Like I said, I know how bad it sucks. Because I watched my team do the same thing 2 years ago.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby RiverDog » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:56 am

Futureite wrote:River;

Our coaches were lambasted by fans and the media for the exact same thing - calling 3 straight passes from the 3 and not allowing Gore to touch the ball. I don't see how it is different, at all.

The other part is, Carroll put the ball in the hands of his QB. It was RW's decision to make that throw, his ball placement, his play. You could lay blame any which way you want, but I would not blame a coach for putting the ball in the hands of one of his best players in crunch time.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/2/1/79 ... frank-gore


No comparing Gore to Lynch in short yardage. Beast is one of the best YAC backs in the history of the game. Gore's a solid back and I don't disagree with the criticism of not trying him at least once, but every back in the league takes a back seat to Beast in short yardage. Plus we were at the one, not the three. Running it in from the three is a lot more problematic than running it in from the one even if the ball carriers' short yardage ability was equal, which it is not.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby Futureite » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:24 am

River;

I agree. It was insane not to run Lynch. I think everyone in the world (including myself) thought they would. And we all thought the game was over.

At the same time I cannot fault Carroll for putting the ball in the hands of your QB on 2nd and goal. But I am a former QB, so I am probably biased. Carroll went through his logic afterwards and it did seem well thought out.

You know how I felt about the "tip" play last year. Everyone around here (the bay area) chastised that call, chastised the throw. I never have. As long as things are done with some sort of a plan, you cannot feel bad about the result. I wouldn't feel bad about yesterday either if I were a Hawks fan, and there's a quite a few legitimate reasons to believe it was a good play call.

In the end you had a hell of a year. What can I say? My team was not even close to being at the point of winning that SB, let alone winning it for the 2nd straight year.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby Nevada » Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:15 am

I can't claim to be as much into football as those on this board but I have watched some of the SB games and I'm glad I did since the last game that I really enjoyed watching was Super Bowl 23.

Needless to say, with so little time left the 'miracle' was Jermaine Kearse's juggling catch. Even when the camera panned on Brady you could see him in disbelief at it. At that point all that had to be covered were a couple of feet to victory. But somehow the call was made for a pass and I can't help wonder why that was decided on rather than just go, as one sportscaster called it, 'right through the middle'.

Maybe some of the fans here could clue me in as to what would have been the better play or if they think the Seahawks jumped the gun with no heed of, 'It ain't over till it's over'. Did someone feel it would have been a showier win than scratching, clawing and ramming the last 24 inches or so?

I do admit that I will be noting the Seahawks now and then through the season. And as one Patriots fan said on TV after the game: 'We got lucky'. Yes, the Patriots did get lucky and I'm sure a few of them know that especially when the game was won by an intercept or barring that just 4 points.
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Re: I feel your pain

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:48 am

To start, we are a run first Offense with probably the best RB in the league at breaking tackles and who has a nose for the goal line.
We were facing a goal line Defense with a lot of bodies in the middle of the field.
We used a Wideout to run a quick slant into the mass of bodies in the shortened field. If Revis hadn't been eliminating Baldwin, he would have been the better choice.
Our QB is best a movement. To have him roll out if they want to pass and throw it away if required would have been much better option.

What ever happened to "Protect the Ball"? It seems to me that it was a higher risk at that point in the game and where they were on the field than was necessary.
They got too cute with their play calling.
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