HawkShack.com

by **TriCitySam** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:22 pm

We did lose a Carlos today, as Carlos Hyde went to Jacksonville. Interesting to ponder - the Jags now have Shottenheimer, Bevell and Phillip Dorsett along with Hyde - what other Hawks do they target?

Linsley also got a big contract - not surprising as JS doesn't chase high priced UFA's but prefers to wait for the early rush to die down and find value late....I wonder if it surprised RW?

by **RiverDog** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:42 am

Hawks will do what we always do, sit out the first wave and see what drifts below the top of the pond. If Russell is surprised, he shouldn't be. He's seen this story play out each spring since he's been with us. The fact that he's raised some concerns about the OL won't change how we approach free agency.

by **NorthHawk** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:34 am

I doesn't help his frustration when he sees teams with multiple high priced players on their roster like KC giving players $80 million contracts when they only had a few million more in Cap space than us.
If you sign 2nd and 3rd tier players you get 2nd and 3rd tier production.
The other teams seem to be giving player longer term contracts but having the last couple of years as almost fake years in that they are not guaranteed in any way and use that as extra Cap space. In the case of KC,
they paid $80 million but the Cap hit this year is only $4.5 million. Three teams that are doing this type of contractual agreements are Baltimore, KC, and Tampa. Maybe JS should reconsider as they all have better
talent on their teams than us and from Russells viewpoint better players around the QB.

by **Hawk Sista** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:45 am

I don’t know why our week one silence surprises me every year. We’ve been at this long enough for me to know how it goes. Rob Staton the Hawks Draft Blogger summarized how I felt yesterday... which may also summarize why I would suck as a GM.

Check out his article yesterday called “The Problem with the Seahawks”

http://seahawksdraftblog.com/

by **RiverDog** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:49 am

We need both a center and a guard along with an edge rusher, plus we don't have a #1 draft pick. The salary cap has been shrunk so the 2nd wave may contain more bargains than they have in previous years, so waiting for the 2nd wave of free agency makes sense this season.

by **NorthHawk** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:28 am

To keep Wilson happy, we need an influx of talent. So far, nothing except let go of players as other already well stocked teams add talent around their star players.
This worked well when we only needed a few players and Bennett and Avril fell into our laps but there aren't any like them out there this year. Add into it that we
are no longer a team like in 2011-12 where we were on the upswing. We are just treading water lately with few draft picks, an unimaginative Offense, poor along both LoS,
and a QB that has indicated he might want out if things don't change. Well, things aren't changing so why would any player want to come here? Would any player make
the decision to come to Seattle knowing that the QB they were expecting to play with might be traded away or is miserable? Maybe but we might have to overpay to get them
on a short term deal. Bottom feeding just isn't cutting it when you have limited draft capital.

by **c_hawkbob** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:08 am

I'm starting to think that perhaps this year Pete and John are having a difference of opinion and that's why we haven't seen any indication of what they're thinking. Maybe they're still working out a plan of attack that suits them both. Otherwise I can't imagine why they wouldn't have at least in some way given us a clue at to what's going on.

by **c_hawkbob** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:09 am

Looks like we just lost Shaquill Griffin to the Jags:

CB Shaquill Griffin is joining the Jaguars on a $44.5M deal ($29M guaranteed), per The Athletic's Mike Dugar

Good for him.

by **Hawk Sista** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:33 am

Good for him, bad for us. :cry:

by **NorthHawk** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:39 am

He got a lot of money from the Jags @ 3 years $44.5 million and $29 million guaranteed.
It leaves another hole on the team to fill, though.

by **RiverDog** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:39 am

If we lose Chris Carson, we're going to have A LOT more holes to fill.

by **trents** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:56 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:I'm starting to think that perhaps this year Pete and John are having a difference of opinion and that's why we haven't seen any indication of what they're thinking. Maybe they're still working out a plan of attack that suits them both. Otherwise I can't imagine why they wouldn't have at least in some way given us a clue at to what's going on.

We don't have time for that.

by **NorthHawk** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:07 pm

Brady Henderson says we’ve extended Poona for 2 years.
Good move as he’s one of our most consistent D-Linemen.

by **c_hawkbob** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:08 am

NorthHawk wrote:Brady Henderson says we’ve extended Poona for 2 years.
Good move as he’s one of our most consistent D-Linemen.

Agreed, keeping Puna was a good move!

by **NorthHawk** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:06 pm

Rappoport is saying that we signed Gerald Everett TE from the Rams.
6 million 1 year with possible bonus to 7 million. He’s 26 years old.

by **TriCitySam** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:52 pm

Seems to be a good player - but we don't seem to get much out of players that sign for only 1 year. About the time we get used to each other, their gone. Maybe this will be different.

by **RiverDog** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:08 pm

It's not a free agent signing, but it's being reported that we've traded our 2021 5th round draft pick to the Raiders for center Gabe Jackson:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/293 ... draft-pick

Jackson, whom the Raiders drafted in the third round in 2014, has two seasons remaining on a five-year, $56 million extension he inked in 2017. He has appeared in 100 percent of the Raiders' offensive snaps in 2015 and 2016 and 98 percent in 2020, never appearing in fewer than 11 games.

by **NorthHawk** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:16 pm

Should help replace Iupati at LG. If he stays healthy he’ll be an upgrade. Now to upgrade Center.

by **c_hawkbob** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:16 pm

Old but Slow wrote:This seems like the old pattern, bring in an aging O lineman on the downside of a not particularly stellar career. And spend too much doing it. Not impressed.

Mostly a draft pick we can ill afford not to have.

by **trents** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:35 pm

Old but Slow wrote:This seems like the old pattern, bring in an aging O lineman on the downside of a not particularly stellar career. And spend too much doing it. Not impressed.

At 29 years old, I wouldn't exactly call him and aging O lineman on the downhill side of his career. And he looks to be durable which is almost as valuable as talent in a league where many or most teams have O lines that are a revolving door throughout the season due to injuries.

by **NorthHawk** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:36 pm

We’re down to 3 draft picks at this point. The only ways to get more is to trade players, trade down, or trade next years picks for this year.
As we need an influx of talent just to keep pace with the NFC West, it’s starting to look bleak at the moment.

by **trents** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:12 pm

NorthHawk wrote:We’re down to 3 draft picks at this point. The only ways to get more is to trade players, trade down, or trade next years picks for this year.
As we need an influx of talent just to keep pace with the NFC West, it’s starting to look bleak at the moment.

I'm afraid I have to agree. Between the economics of the game and leadership's lack of a creative, flexible philosophy with regard to on the field, game day strategy I don't see us continuing to be competitive.

by **RiverDog** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:03 pm

NorthHawk wrote:We’re down to 3 draft picks at this point. The only ways to get more is to trade players, trade down, or trade next years picks for this year. As we need an influx of talent just to keep pace with the NFC West, it’s starting to look bleak at the moment.

trents wrote:I'm afraid I have to agree. Between the economics of the game and leadership's lack of a creative, flexible philosophy with regard to on the field, game day strategy I don't see us continuing to be competitive.

Keep in mind that this was a very weird season with a very limited slate of CFB games to evaluate talent from. The draft is going to be even more of a crap shoot, so the Hawks might be prioritizing players with a known quantity vs. draftees.

As far as trading Adams, I don't see it happening, at least not this season. It would make us look desperate to give up so much draft capital then pull the plug on the experiment after just one season.

But nor am I that impressed with our recent pickups, either.

by **TriCitySam** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:32 pm

We've been thru this many times, feeling JS has dropped the ball and the rest of the league is passing us by. Given JS history, I gonna say it's too early to tell. In the past he's made some great late moves, and who knows how this is going to work out. They kept us very competitive, very few teams can compare. We'll see.

by **NorthHawk** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:41 pm

Without Russell, we wouldn’t even be sniffing a division championship and maybe not a winning record.

by **Aseahawkfan** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:08 pm

TriCitySam wrote:We've been thru this many times, feeling JS has dropped the ball and the rest of the league is passing us by. Given JS history, I gonna say it's too early to tell. In the past he's made some great late moves, and who knows how this is going to work out. They kept us very competitive, very few teams can compare. We'll see.

So we go 12-4 and win a division title with an improving defense, a career year for Russell, and two amazing WRs and the league is passing us by?

I don't get these assessments. People on here are talking like we're 9-7 and barely made the playoffs with our O and D performing terribly.

The winner of the Super Bowl was Tampa Bay led by a 43 year old QB whose defense stepped up but wasn't great the whole year. And the vaunted young QB who is supposed to be the new best ever lost soundly to Tampa Bay.

Tampa soundly beat a Green Bay team led by Aaron Rodgers who threw for 48 TDs. I think most of the league would love to be even in our position.

Some of you are just seriously out of touch with reality. We're still a very competitive team. Everyone else is also hampered by a smaller salary cap. So it's smart to try to find value at a lower price. You can't just go and spend like crazy hoping to win with a tight salary cap. We definitely want to be positioning to re-sign DK Metcalf.

As long as we have a franchise QB and some pieces to build around like Jamal Adams on D, we'll be in the running and a good draft and free agency period of making a run.

Seriously, who are all these teams that have passed us? Saints, Tampa, and Green Bay were the main competitors in the NFC all led by veteran QBs. The main young QB tearing it up in the AFC is Mahomes with maybe that Josh guy in Buffalo coming up behind him. Who can say.

We're well positioned for another run. We're hardly on the low end of the competition for a real SB run.

Never seen so much handwringing when we're in a very good position. You would think we had fallen completely apart rather than won a division and made the playoffs.

by **obiken** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:34 pm

Old but Slow wrote:As a side comment, I do not think that JS has much say any more. It is all Pete, and he has no oversight. I am ready for him to retire. If you can't adapt you can't keep up in this league.

I agree!! Thats why we almost lost JS to the Lions.

by **NorthHawk** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:32 pm

Yah, although I think Pete would have given up a lot for Adams, they ended up trading away starting QB draft capital for a Safety. That doesn’t seem like a Schneider type of trade, but it does seem like a Carroll compulsion from where I sit. Kind of like his time mgmt impulses where he has brain cramps in games.

by **obiken** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:38 pm

NorthHawk wrote:Yah, although I think Pete would have given up a lot for Adams, they ended up trading away starting QB draft capital for a Safety. That doesn’t seem like a Schneider type of trade, but it does seem like a Carroll compulsion from where I sit. Kind of like his time mgmt impulses where he has brain cramps in games.

NH I was for trading a 1st rounder for JA, but not 2! The Jets saw us coming!

by **RiverDog** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:27 am

Old but Slow wrote:As a side comment, I do not think that JS has much say any more. It is all Pete, and he has no oversight. I am ready for him to retire. If you can't adapt you can't keep up in this league.

I'm giving him one more season. I didn't think we were that far away from a Super Bowl last year and I don't think it will take too great of a tweak to get us to the Promised Land. But I'm getting damn restless.

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:48 am

I thought we were about 4 or 5 players away from really competing for a SB last year.
RB, 3rd WR, LG, DE, CB and our RT was hurting. Not to mention an Offense that was handcuffed by an outdated philosophy.

by **RiverDog** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:12 am

NorthHawk wrote:I thought we were about 4 or 5 players away from really competing for a SB last year.
RB, 3rd WR, LG, DE, CB and our RT was hurting. Not to mention an Offense that was handcuffed by an outdated philosophy.

Disagree that our running back situation was inadequate. When Carson and Hyde were healthy, they did a very admirable job both running and receiving. Neither of them lost a fumble.

But if we don't bring back Chris Carson, we're going to have a huge hole to fill. I don't have a lot of confidence in Penny.

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:41 am

Carson can't stay healthy. He's never made it through the year without missing games, so the Offense had him on a "pitch count" to try to keep him available.
That's not helping a run game when you can't play your best RB all the plays he might otherwise play and it lessens the effectiveness of the run game. Hyde wasn't
available for the entire year, either and both were out at the same time at one point. The run game just wasn't dependable and it's how we ended up with Alex Collins.
I doubt we will draft a RB, but we needed to do so the last couple of years and didn't get a dominating RB, so here we are.

by **Aseahawkfan** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:22 pm

This year is an odd year. We should be able to nab some low cost talent. This is why it is rumored Pete and John didn't see the draft picks as valuable this year as normal due to the number of college players that opted out on top of the lost college games.

With the reduced salary cap, there should be a lot of decent talent sitting around at the end of free agency letting us pick up some cheap, quality talent looking to play into their next contract as the COVID restrictions are lifted and the salary cap returns to its usual level. So there was a bit of critical thinking into our draft and free agency strategy that will hopefully play out the farther into free agency we get.

by **c_hawkbob** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:35 pm

We're keeping Chris Carson: https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sea ... -seahawks/

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:26 pm

Seems like a lot of money for an oft injured player, but I read a bit about the new TV and streaming deal. One writer
commented that it was around a doubling of money over the last contract. So what looks like a big Cap hit might not be much if the Cap rises quickly after this year.

by **RiverDog** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:04 am

Good deal on Carson. He was almost a must unless we were going to blow up the team and start over. I get the fact that he's been injured a lot, but there's not a lot of other options out there unless you're comfortable with Rashaad Penny.

by **NorthHawk** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:46 am

That's why it's too bad we don't have some good draft picks this year.
Najee Harris would fit well on our team and he's expected to go around our original 1st round pick area. Javonte Williams is a tough runner
and he's not expected to last past the first part of the 2nd round or late 1st round. Maybe there's a pounder around mid rounds, but I expect JS to trade down a couple of times and end up
with some mid and late round picks and miss out on the premier talent. If we do, the really good Guards will be gone, too. This year we could have solidified the interior of the OL for the
future cheaply, but I doubt we will now without draft capital.

by **TriCitySam** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:52 am

Old but Slow wrote:As a side comment, I do not think that JS has much say any more. It is all Pete, and he has no oversight. I am ready for him to retire. If you can't adapt you can't keep up in this league.

I see nothing that tells me that things have changed with JS. Seems to me that it's business as usual: he finds out what kind of players the coaches are looking for and does his best to fill the bill. And done it well IMHO. I have no interest whatsoever in a 12-4 coach retiring. Been thru listening to those who felt Knox had to go, and Holmgren had to go (some on here whined incessantly about him) and suffered thru Flores and Mora. Fans don't know when they've got it good.

by **RiverDog** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:01 am

Old but Slow wrote:As a side comment, I do not think that JS has much say any more. It is all Pete, and he has no oversight. I am ready for him to retire. If you can't adapt you can't keep up in this league.

TriCitySam wrote:I see nothing that tells me that things have changed with JS. Seems to me that it's business as usual: he finds out what kind of players the coaches are looking for and does his best to fill the bill. And done it well IMHO. I have no interest whatsoever in a 12-4 coach retiring. Been thru listening to those who felt Knox had to go, and Holmgren had to go (some on here whined incessantly about him) and suffered thru Flores and Mora. Fans don't know when they've got it good.

Player acquisition is just one area where I've had an issue with Pete. This season will represent our 3rd offensive coordinator in the last 4 seasons. It's hard to build an offense with that kind of turnover. I also think he put too much faith into Tom Cable and his system and philosophy.

HawkShack.com

Who is online