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Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:18 pm

Well I feel safe starting this thread with 5 minutes to go in the game.

I am pretty sure that the entire offensive roster of the Seahawks - along with the coaching staff - will find Giant lumps of coal in their Stockings tomorrow morning.

That team that showed up today is no threat to winning the Super Bowl.
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Postby Uppercut » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:36 pm

No threat to win a playoff game and the game against the Niners is no gimme

Regressing into a pile of dung
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Postby Zorn76 » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:49 pm

*sigh*

missed PAT didn't matter after all.

Game sums up a lot about this season. Just not clutch enough at key moments.

That said, one more week to end on a high note, even against SF, and we Won't overlook them now.

Hopefully we adjust and put this one behind us. The Lockett injury is really the biggest bummer of the afternoon.
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Postby mykc14 » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:52 pm

Hopefully lions and falcons lose...
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Postby DallasHawk » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:53 pm

would be nice if we could put together a complete game for a change, what happened to the team that went into foxbourgh?
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Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:53 pm

Mine is Wilson's continued accuracy problems with wide open receivers. What is that? 10? 12? Wide open receivers over or under thrown the last month that were TDs? That is a SERIOUS problem moving forward.

( The Lockett injury is disturbing, I pray he's the same player when he gets back mid season next year).
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Postby Uppercut » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:55 pm

Lockett, Carr, Mariotta all broke legs today

I am sure 2016 has the highest injury rate for some time
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Postby Oly » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:00 pm

The offense put up 31. Yeah, they looked bad at times, but the defense should be able to keep the Cards under that.

We really, really miss Earl.
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Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:02 pm

Well the odds of the Seahawks making the Super bowl just went SIGNIFICANTLY higher.
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Postby Hawktawk » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:06 pm

I have no clue what to expect out of these guys anymore. The road got harder. Atlanta is not losing.
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Postby Hawkstar » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:33 pm

I hate the coaching. Put these guys in position to win we dominate the last two minutes when Bevel is off the mic. Wags can call a better game than Richards. Sucks to see this team lose.
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Postby RiverDog » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:37 pm

Lockett's injury looked really serious. I'm worried that it could be a career ender. The way his foot was flopping reminded me of Tim Krumrie in the SB a few decades ago.

Special teams played horribly, giving up a blocked punt, a blocked FG, and a missed XP.

Offense was nearly as bad. Critical turnover early, offensive line leaks like a sieve, Russell was off target again, can't get a single yard on I don't know how many attempts. Defense sure misses Earl. I wonder about our DC, if he's the right man for the job.

All in all, this is the worst Pete Carroll Seahawks team since the two 7-9 seasons during the rebuilding years. I don't expect us to make much noise in the playoffs, perhaps a one-and-done. We match up well against about 60% of the teams we play, extremely out manned in the other 40%. That doesn't bode well for playoff football.
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Postby Hawktawk » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:55 pm

I've always been the black helicopter doom and gloom guy. That said I have no clue.
I can take away the positive that Seattle hung up 28 in the second half and flipped the last 5 minutes in amazing fashion .
We're in the tornament. Last time I checked it's 0-0.
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Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:03 pm

Certainly disappointed in the "tone setters" play again today. Collins looked like the far superior back, which is saying something considering the guy fumbles the ball about 30℅ of the time he touches it, and has about a 2.5 YPC average.

Truth is, I fear Rawls is a one hit wonder, without the ability to stay healthy. Without a running game to work off of, play action is a wasted down. No one is buying it on defense, and the incredibly stupid "no block and hope the free guy buys the RB" play action pass at the goal line needs to be summarily taken out to a field and shot.

What a moronic play call at a crucial juncture in the game.
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Postby EmeraldBullet » Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:23 pm

I feel the worst part of this game was our defensive play. Our offense looked pretty good the second half. I think we can clean up the special teams issues and not fumble the ball near our own endzone to start the game. The biggets concern to me is the defense defending the deep pass. When Kam had to come out Palmer took no time torching our secondary when our second string safeties were back there. It sucks we lost the game, it REALLY sucks with regards to the injuries. But if we can keep Kam healthy and defend the deep pass better I think we will be successful in the playoffs still.
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Postby RiverDog » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:32 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:Certainly disappointed in the "tone setters" play again today. Collins looked like the far superior back, which is saying something considering the guy fumbles the ball about 30℅ of the time he touches it, and has about a 2.5 YPC average.

Truth is, I fear Rawls is a one hit wonder, without the ability to stay healthy. Without a running game to work off of, play action is a wasted down. No one is buying it on defense, and the incredibly stupid "no block and hope the free guy buys the RB" play action pass at the goal line needs to be summarily taken out to a field and shot.

What a moronic play call at a crucial juncture in the game.


Agreed on all counts.
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Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:46 am

Hawktawk wrote:I've always been the black helicopter doom and gloom guy. That said I have no clue.
I can take away the positive that Seattle hung up 28 in the second half and flipped the last 5 minutes in amazing fashion .
We're in the tornament. Last time I checked it's 0-0.


I have to say HT, I actually called a play call dumb this week ( will I called it moronic, but that's splitting hairs), so I suppose I owe you an apology..... It's perhaps the first time since, hell I don't remember, might have been the SB throw ( but honestly even then I might have questioned the call, the player grouping, the intended target etc, but I don't recall calling it moronic or dumb, even going so far as to say I understood the idea)...

That said, on fourth down, leaving an unlocked interior lineman on a pass, by design? WTH? Seriously that play needs to be executed, and WITH prejudice.
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Postby Zorn76 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:59 am

It's been another strange season for our team, just like last year.

The clutch is missing. Like it's burned out and the D transmission is slipping. Works here and there, but in an urgent moment, it lags too much.

Big plays killed us again, but all 3 phases of the game in addition to coaching played a measurable role in this loss.

- Really discouraging to see another slow start. Much like the Cardinals did today, when we get early momentum it usually continues. Lackluster first half of football leads to another long day.

- Drives me nuts not to see more blitzes on final Az drive. If you're gonna go down, do it swinging. He panics. Instead he had plenty of time for big plays.

- Az played like they had something at stake more than us. They took advantage of early gifts.

- The comeback was nice to see, and so we get glimpses of what used to be the norm a few years ago. But there hasn't been enough of that mojo lately.

- Losing out on the #2 seed in all likelihood is inexcusable. We had 10 days to rest up and prepare for this game, and instead came out flat with poor execution.

- Lockett...ugh. Sucks. Rawls? We'll see. Collins? Nice effort today, but he cannot be relied on to shoulder the load.

- I have no idea of how the playoffs will go for us. I would think we could beat the #6 at our place, but there is concern. GB is hot right now. I'm also not confident at the moment that we'd keep pace with the Cowboys if we had to play them next week. Hate to say it, 'cause I do think they are a bit overrated. But we've lost some of our credibility here lately as well.

- Gotta rally and end on a win. Stay healthy from here on out.
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Postby Hawktawk » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:14 am

HumanCockroach wrote:
I have to say HT, I actually called a play call dumb this week ( will I called it moronic, but that's splitting hairs), so I suppose I owe you an apology..... It's perhaps the first time since, hell I don't remember, might have been the SB throw ( but honestly even then I might have questioned the call, the player grouping, the intended target etc, but I don't recall calling it moronic or dumb, even going so far as to say I understood the idea)...

That said, on fourth down, leaving an unlocked interior lineman on a pass, by design? WTH? Seriously that play needs to be executed, and WITH prejudice.


No apology needed HC. I'm
an idiot sometimes, especially if i forget my meds :) :)

Bevell need to be executed. That was ridiculous. So is trying to drive the ball down the field to start the game when the line isn't holding their blocks. Not attempting an actual conventional handoff until there's been a fumble on some bizarre reach around handoff on 3rd and 22 to a guy who's been on the roster 2 weeks. The first carry from the lOS was about 8 or 10 plays in to the game after sacks, hurries, penalties and said fumble. Its like a broken record.
Meanwhile AZ fed Brown and punted until the dam broke. The commentators remarked on what a good strategy it is to run right at aggressive pass rushers.That means regardless of the amount of initial success. Keep them honest. It pays off later in the game.And trying to run play action to a back who has barely touched the ball is ridiculous.

its probably too late now but OC Cam Cameron was fired by the Ravens late in the 2012 season and they won the Super Bowl. I know PC is going to ride the ship out and hope good Darrell shows up. But something has to change going forward.
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Postby savvyman » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:15 am

Zorn76 wrote:It's been another strange season for our team, just like last year.

The clutch is missing. Like it's burned out and the D transmission is slipping. Works here and there, but in an urgent moment, it lags too much.

Big plays killed us again, but all 3 phases of the game in addition to coaching played a measurable role in this loss.

- Really discouraging to see another slow start. Much like the Cardinals did today, when we get early momentum it usually continues. Lackluster first half of football leads to another long day.

- Drives me nuts not to see more blitzes on final Az drive. If you're gonna go down, do it swinging. He panics. Instead he had plenty of time for big plays.

- Az played like they had something at stake more than us. They took advantage of early gifts.

- The comeback was nice to see, and so we get glimpses of what used to be the norm a few years ago. But there hasn't been enough of that mojo lately.

- Losing out on the #2 seed in all likelihood is inexcusable. We had 10 days to rest up and prepare for this game, and instead came out flat with poor execution.

- Lockett...ugh. Sucks. Rawls? We'll see. Collins? Nice effort today, but he cannot be relied on to shoulder the load.

- I have no idea of how the playoffs will go for us. I would think we could beat the #6 at our place, but there is concern. GB is hot right now. I'm also not confident at the moment that we'd keep pace with the Cowboys if we had to play them next week. Hate to say it, 'cause I do think they are a bit overrated. But we've lost some of our credibility here lately as well.

- Gotta rally and end on a win. Stay healthy from here on out.



This team really needed that week off that the #2 seed would have given us to rest up for a deep drive through the playoffs. Losing that week off has more than likely eliminated our chances to reach the Super Bowl.
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Postby Hawktawk » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:44 am

If Seattle is to get the 2 they must win and Detroit must lose one. Detroit will playing Dallas and GB. Atlanta is at home vs the Saints. Saints beat the Bucs, an impressive win IMO. Its a shootout in the making.Its a long shot.
It is what it is, Seattle should have at least a couple of more wins.
Of course the 9ers got off the schneid yesterday and will be playing for pride at home. Something tells me nothing is going to come easy.
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Postby RiverDog » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:53 am

savvyman wrote:This team really needed that week off that the #2 seed would have given us to rest up for a deep drive through the playoffs. Losing that week off has more than likely eliminated our chances to reach the Super Bowl.


Agreed. If we were on a roll over the past month or so with our problems in our rear view mirror, then I might feel differently. But this team just isn't consistent enough, especially down the stretch when it matters most, and without our home crowd, we lose our fig leaf. We've one just 2 games on the road this season.

Our vastly improved offensive line is bound to match up poorly with at least a couple of our playoff foes, if not all 5 potential matchups.
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Postby NorthHawk » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:25 am

Hawktawk wrote:If Seattle is to get the 2 they must win and Detroit must lose one. Detroit will playing Dallas and GB. Atlanta is at home vs the Saints. Saints beat the Bucs, an impressive win IMO. Its a shootout in the making.Its a long shot.
It is what it is, Seattle should have at least a couple of more wins.
Of course the 9ers got off the schneid yesterday and will be playing for pride at home. Something tells me nothing is going to come easy.


I think you meant Atlanta must lose. They're currently a half game ahead of us because of the tie. If we win, it doesn't matter what Detroit does.

Regarding the game, the Offense has to play for 60 minutes. This giving up a lead in the first half and trying to come back just doesn't work.

On another note, is there a larger number of broken Fibulas this year? How often have there been 3 broken legs in one day and how many times have you seen a team get 3 broken legs in a single year?
It may be part of the larger picture that this isn't our year.
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Postby Hawktawk » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:33 am

NorthHawk wrote:
I think you meant Atlanta must lose. They're currently a half game ahead of us because of the tie. If we win, it doesn't matter what Detroit does.

Regarding the game, the Offense has to play for 60 minutes. This giving up a lead in the first half and trying to come back just doesn't work.

On another note, is there a larger number of broken Fibulas this year? How often have there been 3 broken legs in one day and how many times have you seen a team get 3 broken legs in a single year?
It may be part of the larger picture that this isn't our year.


Yeah I referenced Atlanta sort of. I think they will be the 2. If Seattle trips over their unit next week they could well wind up as the 4 . I'm ruling nothing out at this point
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Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:06 pm

Our vastly improved offensive line is bound to match up poorly with at least a couple of our playoff foes, if not all 5 potential matchups.

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Actually, believe it or not, they do indeed match up well, at least on paper, with four of the five currently looking like they are playoff bound ( Dallas, Atlanta, GB and Detroit) who ALL have suspect lines and defenses.... NY would on paper be a nightmare, and that suspect 31st ranked pass defense in GB certainly didn't perform at their level up to the week Seattle played them. That said, Seattle has had trouble with explosive pass rush teams, others, not so much.

Doesn't mean it will play out like that, but at least based on paper, it's actually pretty good throughout in regards to protection and possible success.
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Postby RiverDog » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:09 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:Actually, believe it or not, they do indeed match up well, at least on paper, with four of the five currently looking like they are playoff bound ( Dallas, Atlanta, GB and Detroit) who ALL have suspect lines and defenses.... NY would on paper be a nightmare, and that suspect 31st ranked pass defense in GB certainly didn't perform at their level up to the week Seattle played them. That said, Seattle has had trouble with explosive pass rush teams, others, not so much.

Doesn't mean it will play out like that, but at least based on paper, it's actually pretty good throughout in regards to protection and possible success.


New Orleans had a suspect D and very poor pass rush with the 30th ranked pass defense, and we all know how that one turned out.

If we don't have the 2 seed, I have very faint hopes of us advancing.
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Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:14 pm

I believe I acknowledged that possibility several times with the "on paper" reference, as well as using an actual example ( GB)... That said, Wilson had all day and then some against NO.... A game that was the first one after his peck injury, not really sure that's much of an example, but readily admit it's "on paper" ( and on paper only, that is after all why they play the games)the matchups as a whole are good.
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Postby RiverDog » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:58 am

HumanCockroach wrote:I believe I acknowledged that possibility several times with the "on paper" reference, as well as using an actual example ( GB)... That said, Wilson had all day and then some against NO.... A game that was the first one after his peck injury, not really sure that's much of an example, but readily admit it's "on paper" ( and on paper only, that is after all why they play the games)the matchups as a whole are good.


OK, I'll give you your "on paper" matchup, and I'll add that we're going to be mighty tough to knock off in the wild card round as we'll be playing at home. And who knows. A few upsets and we could end up with two or maybe even all 3 playoff games at home. But the fact that we have played so poorly on the road IMO it over rides any theoretical advantage we might have in an on paper matchup. Plus we're minus some key components, namely Earl.

Weirder things have happened and I have by no means taken down my 12 flag. But I am pretty pessimistic about this team's chances after being so optimistic just a couple of days ago. We just are not consistent enough, especially on the road.
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Postby HumanCockroach » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:21 am

Have to admit, I don't want to see the Giants in any game this season, if Seattle does, they better pray for Bad Eli to make the trip, like REALLY bad Eli or it could get ugly.
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Postby mykc14 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:51 am

HumanCockroach wrote:Have to admit, I don't want to see the Giants in any game this season, if Seattle does, they better pray for Bad Eli to make the trip, like REALLY bad Eli or it could get ugly.


I agree with this, unfortunately how things stand right now that is exactly who we would play in the first round. A lot can change in the next week, hopefully that is one of them. Come on saints pull one out next week... I dislike the cowboys as much as any NFL team but they need to take care of business tonight.
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Postby Hawk Sista » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:15 pm

To be clear, three things all need to happen for us to get the #2 seed. All three...not 2 of the 3. The Lions need to lose one more game, the Falcons need to lose to the Saints AND we need to win in Santa Clara. It's not likely to happen, but it could. I don't see the high flying Falcons losing.

As for the Hawks, I won't count them out until there is no more time on the clock. Things don't look or feel too good right now for us making a deep run....but it could happen. It's just much less likely then before the injuries to Earl & Lock & this ugly last loss at home.

Sherman is a hell of an athlete, but needing a team meeting to deal with the Sherman thing than giving up so many yards and points at home...that has to hurt his pride.

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Postby Stream Hawk » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:57 pm

Was there a team meeting? I think there needs to be one now. This team needs cohesion to become consistent. I've not seen us play this inconsistent since the 2010 season; but this year's team is way too talented.

New Orleans could beat Atlanta, Detroit should lose to the hotter GB and we SHOULD beat the sh*t out of the Niners.
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Postby NorthHawk » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:59 pm

We seem to have lost our identity on Offense and some of us saw it coming a couple of years ago.
We used to be a grind 'em out Offense with a big, bruising RB.
We now have some comparative lightweights at RB and a severely inconsistent OL.

It struck me as odd how many times we ran off the left side behind Glowinski and Britt instead of the right behind Ifedi.
In any event, I will be looking for us to get one of the better RB's in the draft this year.
It's unfortunate that we will also need a WR as well as a kick and punt returner. Might they take McCaffrey (sp) and try to put him in the Lockett role with some time at RB? He is a big play type that Pete seems to like.
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Postby RiverDog » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:07 pm

NorthHawk wrote:We seem to have lost our identity on Offense and some of us saw it coming a couple of years ago.
We used to be a grind 'em out Offense with a big, bruising RB.
We now have some comparative lightweights at RB and a severely inconsistent OL.

It struck me as odd how many times we ran off the left side behind Glowinski and Britt instead of the right behind Ifedi.
In any event, I will be looking for us to get one of the better RB's in the draft this year.
It's unfortunate that we will also need a WR as well as a kick and punt returner. Might they take McCaffrey (sp) and try to put him in the Lockett role with some time at RB? He is a big play type that Pete seems to like.


It's a little early for draft talk, but I sure hope that we concentrate on upgrading the OL. McCaffrey is likely to be gone well before our first pick.
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Postby Hawktawk » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:42 pm

NorthHawk wrote:We seem to have lost our identity on Offense and some of us saw it coming a couple of years ago.
We used to be a grind 'em out Offense with a big, bruising RB.
We now have some comparative lightweights at RB and a severely inconsistent OL.

It struck me as odd how many times we ran off the left side behind Glowinski and Britt instead of the right behind Ifedi.
In any event, I will be looking for us to get one of the better RB's in the draft this year.
It's unfortunate that we will also need a WR as well as a kick and punt returner. Might they take McCaffrey (sp) and try to put him in the Lockett role with some time at RB? He is a big play type that Pete seems to like.


Why have we lost our identity? The guy calling the plays. As Aikman said Saturday he is "too cute". Too finesse.
Knox said play the hand you are deal . Yes there is no Lynch and the line is green.

But there is no commitment to the run throughout the game. Even great backs need reps till the dam finally breaks .

Bill parcels beat a superior bills squad pounding an ancient OJ Anderson ( I think) to the tune of 2.9 ypc. It kills clock , shortens the game and gives the defense a breather. In the case of Seattle it gives Russ the ability to have a credible play action fake which he is devastating at. It isn't sexy but it is essential for this team to win in the postseason.
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Postby RiverDog » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:09 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Why have we lost our identity? The guy calling the plays. As Aikman said Saturday he is "too cute". Too finesse.
Knox said play the hand you are deal . Yes there is no Lynch and the line is green.

But there is no commitment to the run throughout the game. Even great backs need reps till the dam finally breaks .

Bill parcels beat a superior bills squad pounding an ancient OJ Anderson ( I think) to the tune of 2.9 ypc. It kills clock , shortens the game and gives the defense a breather. In the case of Seattle it gives Russ the ability to have a credible play action fake which he is devastating at. It isn't sexy but it is essential for this team to win in the postseason.


I don't know if I agree with that or not. With Rawls out and the OL over matched, I don't know if things would have been a lot different if we had decided to run the ball more often. You saw what happened to us when we tried to run inside the 10.

It's a popular thing to rail on the OC's play calling, but his playbook is being limited because of the inferiority of this "vastly improved" offensive line, at least in this particular game.
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Re: Official Seahawks vsCardinals Christmas Eve POST Game Th

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:30 pm

With Collins in the game Seattle began having success running but the score was out of hand. I know your the thoughts on cmike but he's still our leading rusher and had something like 6 tds.

Nobody could complain about the 4th quarter but it was the dreadful first 3 that doomed Seattle.

Bevell has some great plays in the playbook but he is stubborn and stays with his original game plan too long. Once we went to short quick routes they started moving the ball. Why do we have to learn this every time we play a good defense?

As for running inside the ten or one actually it was Rawls no gain on first. Second down they try to have 5'10" 200 lb Wilson sneak/leap over. 3rd down Rawls barely short . 4th down a play action fake leaving a free rusher to sack Wilson without him having a chance. It was a play so ridiculous even HC called it stupid . If you're going on 4th from the half yard make sure it's at least on the half for them if you miss. I've seen enough. The team wins in spite of bevfool
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Re: Official Seahawks vsCardinals Christmas Eve POST Game Th

Postby HumanCockroach » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:42 pm

RD I agree with the limited playbook when overmatched on the line, but again, I look at the "whole" not the game here and there. Every line is overmatched from time to time, it's the nature of the NFL is it not? What I don't understand is the refusal to run the ball when NOT overmatched, or refusal to adjust prior to the second half or fourth quarter when it's obvious your plan isn't going to work.

IMO this line IS vastly improved from the one they rolled out last season, and while your dismay that I compare that line to the one previous continues to be a sticking point for you, I honestly cannot for the life of me understand the thinking on your part , that some how teams wave a magic wand and go back three years or ten or whatever, that seems unrealistic and completely out of touch with reality.
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Re: Official Seahawks vsCardinals Christmas Eve POST Game Th

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:30 pm

The line is a microcosm of the team. Dominant one week and miserable the next. This has been a 6 game pattern. It better stop or it's going to be an early exit.
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Re: Official Seahawks vsCardinals Christmas Eve POST Game Th

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:45 pm

Keep in mind Cable is responsible for both the OL and the run game.
It's a different coaching arrangement than most teams use, and it may mentally handcuff Bevell a little in his play calling if he doesn't really believe they can get the job done.
This will also (in my opinion) negatively impact attracting a good OC if they got rid of Bevell.
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