Hawktawk wrote:Maybe it's just post season blues but I went back and watched yesterday's game again.
Russ was under duress quite a bit to be sure. He was the best all year at burning people with his wheels and showed tremendous courage taking a huge shot trying to get the first down.
That said there were 4 plays at least where his misses killed Seattle.
The first miss to Baldwin after the Hester punt return was unforced and no duress. He missed it by 6 feet inside and would have gotten Baldwin killed had he gotten a hand on the ball. The next miss to Baldwin was even worse, a ten yard miss high to a wide open Baldwin with no pressure on Wilson to speak of.
The first pick was really the nail in the coffin. Russ had avoided pressure and stepped up nicely then threw a wobbler more representative of a rookie than a 5 year vet. At a minimum the inexcusable misses to Baldwin cost the team 8 points . They were approaching field goal range on the pick, another possible 3 point or maybe more.
I love Russ and I'll always be thankful for whatever he's already done but is there a higher ceiling or is this it?
In some respects he seems to have regressed, if nothing else his will to win and anger at losing seems less. I check Facebook and there's a loving tribute to Ciara"I'm always a winner with you babe love you. No more "no time to sleep" no more we will be back. It's like they eye of the tiger is closing.
I've attacked every sacred cow on this team but Russ needs to take it to another level as this historic defense fades or its over for this run.
NorthHawk wrote:Every QB when under constant pressure lowers his eyes. Even Brady does it, but their OL is consistent enough to give him confidence when it does happen that it probably won't happen again next pass play.
He (Russ) did make mistakes, but everyone is human and when the thought to escape is high on his checklist every pass play, it's going to happen.
Hawktawk wrote:Maybe it's just post season blues but I went back and watched yesterday's game again.
Russ was under duress quite a bit to be sure. He was the best all year at burning people with his wheels and showed tremendous courage taking a huge shot trying to get the first down.
That said there were 4 plays at least where his misses killed Seattle.
The first miss to Baldwin after the Hester punt return was unforced and no duress. He missed it by 6 feet inside and would have gotten Baldwin killed had he gotten a hand on the ball. The next miss to Baldwin was even worse, a ten yard miss high to a wide open Baldwin with no pressure on Wilson to speak of.
The first pick was really the nail in the coffin. Russ had avoided pressure and stepped up nicely then threw a wobbler more representative of a rookie than a 5 year vet. At a minimum the inexcusable misses to Baldwin cost the team 8 points . They were approaching field goal range on the pick, another possible 3 point or maybe more.
I love Russ and I'll always be thankful for whatever he's already done but is there a higher ceiling or is this it?
In some respects he seems to have regressed, if nothing else his will to win and anger at losing seems less. I check Facebook and there's a loving tribute to Ciara"I'm always a winner with you babe love you. No more "no time to sleep" no more we will be back. It's like they eye of the tiger is closing.
I've attacked every sacred cow on this team but Russ needs to take it to another level as this historic defense fades or its over for this run.
savvyman wrote:For those who have not experienced - these type of women will drain every ounce of energy out of your body. So this is my thesis has to why Russell was not Russell this past season.
Hawk Sista wrote:I agree. The locker room division and off the field distractions didn't help.
In yesterday's post game interview, I heard hints at something that I didn't much care for. It "seemed" like RW's comments were passive aggressive humble brags.
We have the talent and like others have pointed out, so do others. It's the creation of a brotherhood that resulted in Ws. The boys seem fragmented. I hope I'm wrong.
Hawk Sista wrote:RW is a grown man. He didn't have to marry a famous Prima Donna w/ a gangster rapper x (with whom she had an infant/toddler child). She didn't expose him to anything, RW CHOSE her and all the trappings there may be by being married to a celebrity - especially one w/ an X who has threatened to 86 our guy. I'm not going to blame Ciara like Romo lovers blamed Jessica what's her name. I will, however, say that RW has A LOT going on. I used to love his simple press event ending - "thank you guys, Go Hawks!" Every time. Simple and team centric. Now it's evolved to: "thank you guys - go hawks, pass the peace, cure cancer, Soto arena, etc....."
All of that cannot help but raise questions about being spread too thin.
I don't know that it is the case, but it's a fair question. RW was not THE problem yesterday. He also wasn't the answer he has been in situations a lot like the one the team found themselves in yesterday. This was a team loss, really.....across the board. Timely and costly penalties, the offense couldn't score and the defense couldn't stop this year's offensive juggernauts in their house. That first drive was the way to win and I thought we might after watching it....but the wheels came off quickly. Even so, I had hope until the second INT. Not our day or year.
I'm never fine with losing. I always see the warts and flaws like everyone else. After the consistent and sometimes sizable road-losses, I started to see this team as less deep and less capable of making a solid run, starting in Tampa. That they made it this far is a testimony to the fact that a lot is right w/ this team. 24 others would have loved to have played this weekend. That they were twice blownout in the same season (which hasn't happened in a loooong time) will point the decision makers to some different choices this off-season, me hopes.
Having to pay RW (we did and we should have) just erases 18M in other signings that JS/PC had been able to make. It is what it is. It was a disappointing season and yet we made it to the divisional round....w/o some key people. Let's remember how healthy we were for 48.
Go Hawks, take it from here Atlanta (just this year).
savvyman wrote:His Wife - She by all public indicators is a very high maintenance energy consuming type of woman.
Here is the drama that she has introduced to Rusell's life:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/05/ciara-russell-wilson-future-threat-violence/
Yesterday there were two of her former boyfriends - the excellent type of gangster rappers who make ideal partners - were on the sidelines of the Atlanta Falcons - refer to the link above for one of them earlier involvement with Russell:
http://www.complex.com/sports/2017/01/future-atlanta-falcons-russell-wilson-seahawks-bow-wow
For those who have not experienced - these type of women will drain every ounce of energy out of your body. So this is my thesis has to why Russell was not Russell this past season.
Hawktawk wrote:He never accepted any personal responsibility or said "I overthrew him" or " this game is on me or" I could have played better" .its the wierdest press conference I ever heard him give .
And ending it with a reference to Sodo???? I don't want to hear about Fing Sodo after that game the whole team minus Hester took a dump on the field .
He's got way more than football on his mind obviously .
Hawk Sista wrote:Blaming her for his actions is not holding HIM accountable. He's a grown up. If he tweets what he thinks she needs vs. what he thinks his fans, peers, bosses and bill payers (21M per) need in this moment, that's on RW. He's still young....(and admittedly, he's seemingly more mature than I was at his age - me w/ zero media attention following me or my significant other), but it's HIM. He should own his two costly ass INTs rather than act like he did as well as he could considering his injuries and line.
RW is accountable for RW. Ciara should be held accountable for hers.
Edit - not blaming him for this loss. At least no more than anyone else. I just didn't appreciate his post game humble-brags and looking forward to things not called Hawk football in THAT moment.
BOB - I am no Brady fan, but he didn't "seem" to be distracted by the glitz of it all. I would hope this loss would serve as a wake up call to RW. So far it seems like, oh well, I tried when injured behind a crappy line... time for the Grammy's, Hollywood award season and his growing family.
Hawktawk wrote:Maybe it's just post season blues but I went back and watched yesterday's game again.
Russ was under duress quite a bit to be sure. He was the best all year at burning people with his wheels and showed tremendous courage taking a huge shot trying to get the first down.
That said there were 4 plays at least where his misses killed Seattle.
The first miss to Baldwin after the Hester punt return was unforced and no duress. He missed it by 6 feet inside and would have gotten Baldwin killed had he gotten a hand on the ball. The next miss to Baldwin was even worse, a ten yard miss high to a wide open Baldwin with no pressure on Wilson to speak of.
The first pick was really the nail in the coffin. Russ had avoided pressure and stepped up nicely then threw a wobbler more representative of a rookie than a 5 year vet. At a minimum the inexcusable misses to Baldwin cost the team 8 points . They were approaching field goal range on the pick, another possible 3 point or maybe more.
I've attacked every sacred cow on this team but Russ needs to take it to another level as this historic defense fades or its over for this run.
mykc14 wrote:I have to laugh at this a little, I mean don't get me wrong, he didn't have his best game/season but to put that on his personal life is a bit extreme. I mean has there been any stories about him putting less time in at the facility? Has there been any insider information about him no longer being the first one in and the last one out of the facility everyday? When he was injured early in the season the man spent weeks getting round the clock health care, not even getting to sleep more than 2 hours at a time because of his treatments. That doesn't sound like a guy who is putting himself or his personal life in front of football.
Let's think about what might be the most likely explanation of his 'down' year. A) his personal life has gotten in the way and he isn't as focused as he has been in the past. B) he was playing behind a bad pass blocking online, got injured early in the year, and never was able to get in a good offensive flow because of protection issues and a complete lack of a running game. Seems like we should start with B.
As far as his post game presser I didn't have too much problem with what he said. I have heard him say things like 'we just missed' etc... multiple times l. I have also seen him say 'I just missed' multiple times. Maybe this time he felt it wa that they bothjust missed, not on the same page, etc...
Hawktawk wrote:Although it is both A and B imo. It's hard to deny when your wife's gangster exes are trolling you on the sidelines. It doesn't help.
mykc14 wrote:
LOL at future! I wouldn't be surprised if there were an aspect of A going on in some way. It's almost impossible to get married and find out you are going to be a first time father without it having some effect on your overall life/priorities. I would just say that I need more evidence of him not putting in the hours etc... to pin it on his personal life, especially when he had been injured and stuff. Nothing in my life changed my priorities more than when my first child was born and I expect that will happen with Russ, but that doesn't mean that he will necessarily neglect his QB duties, it just means that he is going to have to figure out what it will all look like on a daily basis.
Anthony wrote:
what more proof do you need it is well documented he was getting woke up every 1.5-2 hours every day getting treatment so he could keep playing were almost very other Qb would have sat out. That is all the proof you need his head is on football and his personal life is not an issue, enough said can we stop making crap up now.
mykc14 wrote:
That's what I was saying. I would need a lot more evidence to think his personal life is getting in the way. I don't think that evidence exists, but at the same time he is going to have to adjustchis time/priorities in the next few months as he becomes a father. I think he will make this adjustment just fine, personally, but it's not like it will have zero impact on him at all. I don't think we will see his play deminish from it or anything.
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