Anthony wrote:973 yards 4.6 yards per carry and 6 tds, Alex collins enough said
Sox-n-hawks wrote:Experiment Failed. Bring in David Shaw or Chris Peterson or Lincoln Riley as OC!!!! DO IT.
HumanCockroach wrote:Lmao.... always someone bemoaning players that didn't perform performing somewhere else.
HumanCockroach wrote:Yup it's the system, that's why everyone in the NFL was clamoring for his fumble prone, touchdown lacking performance when he was cut.... believe it or not, some players just perform better in other systems. Happens throughout the NFL year in and year out.
NorthHawk wrote:I think it shows this system requires a very special RB to be consistently productive. It took us to what should have been successive Super Bowl wins, so I think Pete doesn't see a need to change much outside of that RB.
When Lynch went down there was a noticeable change in not being able to get the tough yards or grind out a couple of first downs. Rawls started out good, but the signs were there that he couldn't put the Offense on his back when a spark was needed. Then when he got hurt we really saw how bad our OL needs a big time RB.
From reading what Pete said today it looks more certain that they will take a RB early and maybe more than one in this draft. Also look for an overall increase in team speed with additions this off season.
I agree I also think we might be a player in Fa for lineman, No matter who the RB is we need to improve the line for both the RB and Wilson
idhawkman wrote:I know some of you will slam me for this but it would be great to see Chris Petersen come in as OC and bring Wilcox in as the DC. (I know PC won't want to give up the defense but I'd love to see it). Or.... maybe they could bring in one of Buddy Ryan's boys to be DC. (yes, I'm ducking for cover right now but I thought we could use a laugh - there's always a little truth in a joke, right?)
chris98251 wrote:I would love to see what Peterson could do, but I think he likes the relative obscurity of being at UW, the school isn't obscure as much as people ignore the Northwest a lot, the NFL may be to much in the spotlight for his liking.
idhawkman wrote:I know some of you will slam me for this but it would be great to see Chris Petersen come in as OC and bring Wilcox in as the DC. (I know PC won't want to give up the defense but I'd love to see it). Or.... maybe they could bring in one of Buddy Ryan's boys to be DC. (yes, I'm ducking for cover right now but I thought we could use a laugh - there's always a little truth in a joke, right?)
RiverDog wrote:
Peterson isn't going to give up a Top 20 college HC job for an NFL coordinator's job. Can you name a college head coach with the resume Peterson has going for him that gave up his college HC job for an NFL coordinator?
chris98251 wrote:I would love to see what Peterson could do, but I think he likes the relative obscurity of being at UW, the school isn't obscure as much as people ignore the Northwest a lot, the NFL may be to much in the spotlight for his liking.
idhawkman wrote:That said, if Peterson wanted obscurity, he would have stayed at Boise State. Not that Boise State is obscure but they are more obscure than UW.
chris98251 wrote:Reason he came to UW was to be in contention for National Championship, he was constantly getting snubbed by teams in contention when trying to set up schedules and other teams feared losing to a lesser conference school. UW is not completely obscure and is a somewhat out of the way location as well as not being in a NCAA focus routine such as USC and UCLA, Oregon probably would have been a good place as well if the Jobs there were open.The BCS commission at the time had a prejudice against non BCS schools.Kind of why Utah and the Colorado schools moved into the PAC conference as well.
idhawkman wrote:As Chris said, there's no way the college money managers would ever let BSU compete for a NC. They keep them out by not scheduling games against BSU with contending teams and then they complain about their strength of schedule to keep them out of the big dance. The exception was when no one thought that BSU could beat a Va. Tech or Georgia. once that happened, they no longer could get a big game against a contending school.
I wouldn't put it past Pete to take a OC job in the NFL, he did it in College when he came to BSU. He knows sometimes you have to work your way up and I don't think he would want to break into the NFL at the Head Coach level. Too big of a learning curve and too high expectations would be heaved on him. But he would be a great NFL coach.
RiverDog wrote:
There's a huge bias in the NFL against college coaches making the jump directly to HC. Here are the last 10 coaches hired over the past 2 years and their previous jobs:
Hue Jackson, Browns. Previous job: OC, Bengals (also former Raiders HC)
Doug Marrone, Jags. Previous job: OL coach, Jags.
Adam Gase, Dolphins. Previous job: OC, Bears.
Doug Pederson, Eagles. Previous job: OC,Chiefs.
Dirk Koetter, Bucs. Previous job: OC, Bucs.
Sean McDermott, Bills. Previous job: DC, Panthers.
Vance Joseph, Broncos. Previous job: DC, Dolphins.
Anthony Lynn, Chargers. Previous job: RB coach, Bills.
Sean McVay, Rams. Previous job: OC, Redskins.
Kyle Shannahan, 49'ers. Previous job: OC, Falcons.
As a matter of fact, there are only two of the active NFL coaches (Pete Carroll and Texans HC Bill O'Brien) whose previous job was a college HC, and even those two had extensive experience in the NFL prior to their college gig. Chris Peterson has never had an NFL job.
I like Chris Peterson a lot, but I don't think he gets an NFL HC job. Teams want to see that NFL experience on a resume.
idhawkman wrote:I agree. That's why I've been saying he should be the OC for the Seahawks and not a HC in the NFL first.
Sox-n-hawks wrote:Experiment Failed. Bring in David Shaw or Chris Peterson or Lincoln Riley as OC!!!! DO IT.
RiverDog wrote:
Except that Peterson is 53 years old, and he's been a HC for going on 13 years. Moving to an OC job in the NFL would almost certainly involve a pay cut with no guarantees that he'd be able to translate is college success into the pros and progress to HC. I think the only way he moves to the pros is if some moonbat owner like Dan Snyder breaks with tradition and gives him a head coaching job.
If a team does dip down to the colleges, IMO a better candidate would be David Shaw. He has NFL experience and is only 45 years old. There was talk that the Colts might be interested in him as they're looking for an offensive minded guy that can coach up Andrew Luck, and Shaw coached Luck at Stanford.
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