Aseahawkfan wrote:
A "Thank You" deal to the guy that makes the defense work? Extending one of the best players at his position in the league with elite speed that stops QBs from throwing deep is not a "Thank you" deal.
You guys that think Earl is just some guy are going to be in for a rude awakening when you see how much this defense will suck without him. We could lose Bobby before Earl. The only guy more valuable than Earl is a high quality pass rusher and Sherm, but Sherm is gone. Now if Earl goes, this defense is going to get lit up.
NorthHawk wrote:I don't think anyone is under the illusion that losing ET wouldn't hurt.
Rather, many of us are facing reality that he might be dealt.
JS hasn't talked to his people since the Combine and he's in the last year of his contract.
The usual pattern is to begin renegotiations early and work it out before the season starts.
It may be that they had a general agreement on salary range to be finalized later, but it may also be a sign that they don't expect him to be here for the start of the season.
So we are discussing the possibilities of him being gone.
HumanCockroach wrote:Who the funk believes not showing up to voluntary workouts means a player wants out? Anyone ever heard of Walter Jones? Not showing up because of desire for a new contract, and wanting out of Seattle, ain't the same thing.
Lmfao
HumanCockroach wrote:Who the funk believes not showing up to voluntary workouts means a player wants out? Anyone ever heard of Walter Jones? Not showing up because of desire for a new contract, and wanting out of Seattle, ain't the same thing.
Lmfao
Aseahawkfan wrote:How does he have all the leverage when we can use the franchise tag on one of the few players worth tagging?
Hawktawk wrote:Every great player "wants out" or skips workouts until they get their deal then they "always wanted to be here" with very few exceptions.
As for WJ lets remember his last deal was a disaster as he wound up hurt and taking a roster spot without playing for quite a while at the end of his career. Chancellor is looking like the same situation now.
One thing that separates the Patriots from everyone else has been their willingness to trade very good to great players in their prime for maximum value and reload rather than paying aging stars with a short time left.
I don't know if this defines Thomas or not and I bet nobody else does either.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Earl at this point could use some rest. As long as he doesn't hold out too long, he'll be fine.
RiverDog wrote:The concern isn't that he's not getting enough work. The concern is whether or not by skipping the voluntaries is he sending a signal that he's not happy.
The concern is whether or not by skipping the voluntaries is he sending a signal that he's not happy.
Old but Slow wrote:Jax ... are on track for a SB run.
obiken wrote:The concern is whether or not by skipping the voluntaries is he sending a signal that he's not happy.
I am getting sick of this unhappy crap! Was I always happy as a Correctional Officer? I dont freeking thinks so! I am now, because I am retired! They get paid millions to play a kids game, suck it up buttercups!
NorthHawk wrote:I don't know your financial situation, but ET has a lot of options for what to do with his money and reportedly has the ability to walk away from more if he doesn't like the terms of the contract.
NorthHawk wrote:I don't know your financial situation, but ET has a lot of options for what to do with his money and reportedly has the ability to walk away from more if he doesn't like the terms of the contract.
Old but Slow wrote:The problem with a draft day trade is that the team they trade with will need to have an agreement in place about a contract, and that is not easy. It is becoming more likely, though, as the date approaches. It seems odd to me that Jax has not been apparently involved, as the FS seems to be the biggest hole in their D, and they are on track for a SB run.
Goes or stays, I will remain an Earl fan, but I see advantages for the team if they can get draft value for him.
Which is why I'm wondering why you're surprised that Jax appears not to be involved. If his goal is to go back home, why would he want to trade a 3 hour flight for a 1.5 hour flight?
Seahawks4Ever wrote:After Earl is traded Pete will hold a presser where he will add ET to the list of players on the Defense who are to blame for the down fall of our Seahawks and NOT the offense in general or Darrell Bevell and Tom Cable in particular. Nope, it WAS the defense, just ASK PETE! He 'll tell you!
I not "buy'in" to Pete's B.S. why are any of you???
Seahawks4Ever wrote:After Earl is traded Pete will hold a presser where he will add ET to the list of players on the Defense who are to blame for the down fall of our Seahawks and NOT the offense in general or Darrell Bevell and Tom Cable in particular. Nope, it WAS the defense, just ASK PETE! He 'll tell you!
I not "buy'in" to Pete's B.S. why are any of you???
Seahawks4Ever wrote:I not "buy'in" to Pete's B.S. why are any of you???
Seahawks4Ever wrote:I not "buy'in" to Pete's B.S. why are any of you???
Seahawks4Ever wrote:First honest post about Saint Pete (other than my own) that I have read in a long while. I too have mentioned, adnauseum how PC doesn't really understand the Offensive side of the ball which, when you think about that fact, it means that he is HARDLY a defensive GENIOUS if he doesn't understand offense. Pete is GREAT at putting together a TEAM of assistant coaches and then he rides or falls on THEIR innovation.
THAT is PC in a nut shell.
Now, back to ET. Pete is not very happy with Earl. Pete said to a reporter that "some players don't understand voluntary" in referring to ET's recent absence. What I think PC was getting at was that in sports voluntary mean MANDITORY, at least it does for players that need to show the F/O something. What Pete doesn't understand is that Earl IS sending him a message and that message is PAY ME or TRADE ME hopefully to Dallas...
Oh, and the Hawks are getting ready to move on w/o K.J. too. Shaq's bro has been slated at WLB, K.J.'s spot instead of being the next Kam Pete is grooming Qeem to be the next K.J. so instead of ADDING talent we are only going to be REPLACING talent with younger talent so instead of getting better by addition we get better by getting younger. Sounds to me more like treading water, but Pete is the HC so he has been right before so I hope he is right again. He has a better chance of being right than ME that's for sure!
Seahawks4Ever wrote:I often use Holmy as the offensive equivalent of PC which is WHY neither one of them deserves to be enshrined in Canton where the TRULY GREAT are. Like Belichek you mentioned, he knows ALL aspects and so did Tuna, Landry, Lombardi, Shula, Noll, Walsh, and Marv. Levy. There was a REASON the Bud Grants of the world ALWAYS choked in the big games, just like a Marty Shottenheimer coached team (or Brian) such a coached team is destined to eventually fail.
There is only ONE reason a Pete Carroll coached team went over the top, he had put together one of the greatest defenses EVER. Then he squandered it and blamed the squad for his failures.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Tuna: Two Super Bowl wins.
Landry: Two Super Bowl wins
Marv Levy: Zero Super Bowl wins.
Many more years as head coach than Carroll. So Carroll needs one more Super Bowl win to rate in your book? SMH.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:I often use Holmy as the offensive equivalent of PC which is WHY neither one of them deserves to be enshrined in Canton where the TRULY GREAT are. Like Belichek you mentioned, he knows ALL aspects and so did Tuna, Landry, Lombardi, Shula, Noll, Walsh, and Marv. Levy. There was a REASON the Bud Grants of the world ALWAYS choked in the big games, just like a Marty Shottenheimer coached team (or Brian) such a coached team is destined to eventually fail.
There is only ONE reason a Pete Carroll coached team went over the top, he had put together one of the greatest defenses EVER. Then he squandered it and blamed the squad for his failures.
RiverDog wrote:IMO Marv Levy is very underrated in that he got his team to 4 consecutive SB's, a record not likely to be broken.
But your point is well taken. There are very few coaches that have taken their team to two consecutive Super Bowls, and most, if not all, are in the HOF or will be (like Belichek). Pete is already in rarefied air.
c_hawkbob wrote:Pete Carroll and Mike Holmgren will both wind up in the Hall eventually.
c_hawkbob wrote:There is no replacement for Earl out there. We'd have to rethink a lot of what we do on defense because so much of it is predicated on Earls unique range and instincts.
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