Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

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Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby obiken » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:55 pm

I was going wait a week but forget it. Pete is done, period. After the loss last night, anyone who thinks we will still win 10 or 11 games, is as delusional as a Trump supporter. Good artist copy great artist steal, so I am going to steal a lot of CC and his broadcast today, as it was all spot on. The PC era officially died last night. PC and his slogans lasted 9 years at USC and it lasted 9 years here. There have been a lot of guys on this site who said 3 years ago he should go, I AM NOW ON BOARD. Social Media is killing the Hawks and Pittsburgh. Tomlin and PC are imploding. Permissive coaches don't last. BB has a dynasty in NE based on Academics, discipline, and attention to detail. PC has a culture that was built on Slogans and Rah Rah. We were out possessed by 10 minutes, we had 80 yards of offense until the 4th quarter, and the Bear Defense just dominated us. It was a blow out, period. The ONLY thing that kept this game close was the Bears passed on Mahomes, and took Trubisky, and Russell Wilson.
All I saw last night was the same old thing, no running game, no blocking, a dog food offensive line, mediocre Receivers, and Russell running for his life. NOTHING has change at all from last year, if it has its worse.
Next week we get Prescott, who is not Trubisky, and Dallas has better weapons on offense, we still lose. Then the Rams, Lions, and the Rams, again. We going to get killed by the Rams, period.
Football as Vince Lombardi said: is the most simple complex game ever developed. If you block and tackle, better than your opponent, you win. We lose.
Real life is trying to find a parking space for a job interview, its about parking tickets, and taxes on the 15 of April, slogans don't last. Tony Robbins was fine, but he didn't last. Pete Carroll gave us our first Super Bowl, and I will always be grateful, but he is done. His dynasty died when he had a 5-10 5/8 QB, try a slant pass over the middle, but His era died last night. As our colleague Irish would say: "Its the Dynasty that never was.
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Re: Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby c_hawkbob » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:15 pm

If it was "official" your name would be Paul Allen. All you can say is that this is officially your opinion.

For myself, it's year five of the five year rule. Ask me after the season.
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Re: Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby obiken » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:25 pm

Ok, did you see on Whitlock and Wiley, Pete Carroll back to USC? Makes too much sense CB.
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Re: Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby c_hawkbob » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:49 pm

Nope, don't even know who Whitlock and Wiley are, but I do know that nothing they say is official either.
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Re: Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby idhawkman » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:44 pm

The offense played a real bad game last night but there were some bright spots. The defense missing two starting LBs and stars still held their offense to just 17 points. Normally, that should be good enough to win. The defense will come around - I believe that. The offense needs to adapt and it doesn't come easy for them - at least not as easy as a defensive scheme. It will take a few more weeks and then I'll look at everything from a mid year performance stance.
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Re: Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby Rambo2014 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:55 pm

Com'n Boys and Go with a Winner! Join the Rams bandwagon!!!!!!! 19-0 Here we go
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Re: Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby obiken » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:30 pm

idhawkman wrote:The offense played a real bad game last night but there were some bright spots. The defense missing two starting LBs and stars still held their offense to just 17 points. Normally, that should be good enough to win. The defense will come around - I believe that. The offense needs to adapt and it doesn't come easy for them - at least not as easy as a defensive scheme. It will take a few more weeks and then I'll look at everything from a mid year performance stance.



Our offense has always been bad IDH, it never was good. It stayed out of the defenses way. We never had a great line, great WR's, or TE's. We had RW and Lynch. Now we have PC throwing RW under the bus to defend his bad choices on the OL. DB is really the ONLY Weapon RW has to throw to, yeah he was out. Most of the time he is running for his life on Sunday, and playing PC's scapegoat on Monday.
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Re: Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby idhawkman » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:48 pm

obiken wrote:Our offense has always been bad IDH, it never was good. It stayed out of the defenses way. We never had a great line, great WR's, or TE's. We had RW and Lynch. Now we have PC throwing RW under the bus to defend his bad choices on the OL. DB is really the ONLY Weapon RW has to throw to, yeah he was out. Most of the time he is running for his life on Sunday, and playing PC's scapegoat on Monday.

Part of what you say I agree with but part of it I strongly disagree with.

What I agree with:
The offense stayed out of the defense's way. When we were going to the SBs, the defense was getting turnovers and setting up the offense for multiple short fields which often times they converted into only 3 points. Once teams figured out how to do the quick passes underneath our "never get beat deep" defense the turnovers and short fields quit coming for the offense.

What I strongly disagree with:
RW had Lynch and when PC/Bevell lost Lynch in that second SB, the team was doomed. The defense fed off of Beast mode runs. Also, the only reason DB is the "ONLY" weapon RW has to throw to is because RW only throws to him. Too many times RW has other recievers to throw to but he only watched DB and Kearse until Kearse left. RW has no confidence or familiarity with the others. He needs to spend the time to get in sync with all the receivers if he wants to have them as weapons too.
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Re: Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby RiverDog » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:34 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:For myself, it's year five of the five year rule. Ask me after the season.


That's my position, too. Like I said in another thread, I think that most reasonable people (considering myself reasonable) can handle a 6-10 rebuilding year so long as there's something to hang our hats on, and I've already pledged that this season is a gimme for Pete. But if we really tank, I'll be flying my #12 flag upside down. We'll just have to see how it plays out.

Having said that, Pete's choice for offensive coordinator isn't looking real great. With the exception of getting the tight ends more involved, nothing Schott has done has impressed me. Marty Ball never floated anyone's boat. I'm getting more and more skeptical about Pete's judgment on this one.
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Re: Its Officially the End of the Pete Carroll Era.

Postby Anthony » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:49 pm

idhawkman wrote:Part of what you say I agree with but part of it I strongly disagree with.

What I agree with:
The offense stayed out of the defense's way. When we were going to the SBs, the defense was getting turnovers and setting up the offense for multiple short fields which often times they converted into only 3 points. Once teams figured out how to do the quick passes underneath our "never get beat deep" defense the turnovers and short fields quit coming for the offense.

What I strongly disagree with:
RW had Lynch and when PC/Bevell lost Lynch in that second SB, the team was doomed. The defense fed off of Beast mode runs. Also, the only reason DB is the "ONLY" weapon RW has to throw to is because RW only throws to him. Too many times RW has other recievers to throw to but he only watched DB and Kearse until Kearse left. RW has no confidence or familiarity with the others. He needs to spend the time to get in sync with all the receivers if he wants to have them as weapons too.



Wow now trying to change the facts to suit your narrative lets see. last year DB had 75 rec as the #1 and Richardson had 44 difference of 31. So let's compare to the #1 wr last year by yards Brown who had 101 receptions and is their #1 their #2 Shuster had 58 difference of 43 Hmm almost the same. Lets look at WR #2 by yards that played the whole season that was Allen at 102 receptions the #2 for that team has 43 so a difference of 59. So what we learn is a #1 gets more passes, that's why they are the #1 and what you said is wrong as usual since it is obvious like any great QB Wilson throws to multiple wrs. OH and FYI Besides Richardson, we had Lockett with 45 and Graham with 57. HMM
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