The Pick Six

[RiverDog]

No, this is not a thread to complain about Russell's two pick 6 interceptions this season. To the contrary, I was astounded when I learned that he has only thrown 3 of them in his career, a testament to his accuracy and ball security.

The reason for the thread is that I've always felt that an interception that results in a touchdown be weighted heavier than an interception that doesn't result in a score for the purposes of determining a quarterback rating. Those two that Russell did toss were absolute killers, as nearly all pick 6's are.

So...a pick 6 counts the same as two interceptions? It might be a little more fair to some of us fantasy football buffs.

[politicalfootball]

You are right on with your assessment of pick sixes and some day it may change . I Like the idea myself, some day I will play fantasy football too. I don't have as much football knowledge as you but have a lot of spirit and faith in the Seahawks.

I have always enjoyed your writing . I have gone on record as us going 7-9 after San Diego but it's probably going to be 6-10 after Green Bay. What's your current win / loss prediction ?

[idhawkman]

I'm not going to be alarmist in this reply but there are areas of concern.

As you point out, RW has found new ways to lose in the 4th quarter this year as opposed to his finding ways to win in years past. e.g. 2 pick 6s, plus the fumble on the 10 yard line this past week when trailing by 5 with only 7:00 to go. All we needed was first downs and to continue running the ball. RW, however, tried to extend the play and held on to the ball too long waiting for a big play. In my mind, to what end? So we can score sooner giving the Rams a chance to come back and tie or win it with no time left? Then when he does get the ball back he acts as if we only need one score and slowly works his way down the field.

I don't know what he's thinking but he needs to get his head cleared up and put back on his shoulders straight. Additionally, he needs to quit putting this team down by 2 scores with under 5 minutes to play in the 4th. As you mentioned in your OP River, he's only had 3 his whole career, yet this year when we are running the ball better than we ever had including the years with Beast, he's sh!tting the bed and finding ways to lose. We need to get the "winning" mentality back in the locker room and get rid of the stench of "losing". Losers find ways to lose and winners find ways to win. Lately, we've been on the wrong side of that equation.

[NorthHawk]

No, this is not a thread to complain about Russell's two pick 6 interceptions this season. To the contrary, I was astounded when I learned that he has only thrown 3 of them in his career, a testament to his accuracy and ball security.

The reason for the thread is that I've always felt that an interception that results in a touchdown be weighted heavier than an interception that doesn't result in a score for the purposes of determining a quarterback rating. Those two that Russell did toss were absolute killers, as nearly all pick 6's are.

So...a pick 6 counts the same as two interceptions? It might be a little more fair to some of us fantasy football buffs.

You'd also have to factor in hail mary interceptions at the end of the half and game and maybe even when teams are far behind and are forced
to throw which gives the Defense an advantage not to mention the time of the game when they happened. Dalton throwing a pick 6 down 51-14 is different
than Wilson throwing one in the midst of a comeback attempt. I don't know if Dalton did that, but as a 'for instance'.

I can understand what you are getting at, but maybe it should just be another column that shows pick 6's rather than weighting them differently.

[RiverDog]

You'd also have to factor in hail mary interceptions at the end of the half and game and maybe even when teams are far behind and are forced
to throw which gives the Defense an advantage not to mention the time of the game when they happened. Dalton throwing a pick 6 down 51-14 is different
than Wilson throwing one in the midst of a comeback attempt. I don't know if Dalton did that, but as a 'for instance'.

I can understand what you are getting at, but maybe it should just be another column that shows pick 6's rather than weighting them differently.

You have a point.

But the difference would be that it would be difficult if not impossible to come up with a clear definition of a Hail Mary. 5 seconds left? 10? And from what yardline would the line of scrimmage have to be?

In any event, it's just a thought.