Hawks vs carolina

[Anthony]

What a play by wilson

[Anthony]

Here we go.

[Anthony]

Okay all on janakowski

[Anthony]

Thats the game.

[c_hawkbob]

Wilson, Seabass and Bobby get the game balls!

[jshawaii22]

Hats off to Russell and the O. No turnovers, few penalties and even less sacks. Schottenheimer gave up the ghost and the running game and Russell did it. Winnable game next week -- Damn... worth getting up at 7am for today.

Also need to mention that we didn't have any passes dropped today and Russell wasn't overthrowing his targets.

[curmudgeon]

Nice win on the road. Now, if they can turn it around at home they may make it to the tournament.....

[Aseahawkfan]

That was a great win. Goes to show if you stuff the run, Russell will carve you up.

[RiverDog]

Wilson, Seabass and Bobby get the game balls!

I wouldn't object giving a game ball to Russell as although not Breesian, he had a solid game, but I'm giving my game ball to Tyler Lockett. Two years following a devastating injury, he's having a career year.

[HumanCockroach]

Wilson played really well for all four quarters with the exception of that first throw airmailed and delivered late early in the game, and a few under throws on deep balls today. No head scratching decisions, great in the second half, and the typical early game struggles were short and limited. To pretty much the first couple drives... instead of the first half or 3 quarters, which is encouraging to say the least.

[Anthony]

That was a great win. Goes to show if you stuff the run, Russell will carve you up.

Yup

[idhawkman]

I don't mind giving game balls to RW, Lockett, Carson etc but I can't see my way to giving a game ball to Bobby after watching what that RB did to our defense. Too many times I saw Calitro and Bobby going to the wrong hole on plays they shouldn't have given up to him. McCafferey is a quick back but something is off with the LBs and I can't wait to get either KJ or Kenrycks back. I'm hoping that Bobby is just trying to over compensate and nothing is wrong with him at this point.

If it was up to me, I'd give the Oline the game ball today. few penalties, time for RW to throw and over 150 yards rushing was huge.

[Anthony]

I don't mind giving game balls to RW, Lockett, Carson etc but I can't see my way to giving a game ball to Bobby after watching what that RB did to our defense. Too many times I saw Calitro and Bobby going to the wrong hole on plays they shouldn't have given up to him. McCafferey is a quick back but something is off with the LBs and I can't wait to get either KJ or Kenrycks back. I'm hoping that Bobby is just trying to over compensate and nothing is wrong with him at this point.

If it was up to me, I'd give the Oline the game ball today. few penalties, time for RW to throw and over 150 yards rushing was huge.

ahh we only had 75 yards rushing not 150 in this game.

[c_hawkbob]

Wilson, Seabass and Bobby get the game balls!

I wouldn't object giving a game ball to Russell as although not Breesian, he had a solid game, but I'm giving my game ball to Tyler Lockett. Two years following a devastating injury, he's having a career year.

You're nuts. "Breesian" is exactly what Russ was in this game. That 4th down TD and the long pass to the 10 yard line to win the game were exactly the sort of things you'd expect of a guy like Brees. So is beating blitzes:

From ESPN Stats & Information: Russell Wilson was blitzed on 17 of 33 dropbacks Sunday and completed 10 of 15 attempts for 192 yards and the game-tying touchdown to David Moore. That continues a season-long trend. Wilson has a league-high 13 touchdowns to zero interceptions when defenses send five or more pass-rushers. The Panthers' blitz rate Sunday of 52 percent was above their season average of 35 percent.

He's even becoming 'Rogersian':

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With today’s 128.3, Russell Wilson joins Aaron Rodgers as the only QBs in history with a career passer rating over 100

22-of-31 passes for 339 yards, two touchdowns, and no interceptions is not just a "solid game".

You, and this site in general, really need to try to appreciate what we've got in Russ instead of looking for all the aspects of his game there are to complain about. He's not perfect, but the reality is that nobody else is either. The ice water he's got in his veins in the 4th quarters of games is priceless.

[Anthony]

With today’s 128.3, Russell Wilson joins Aaron Rodgers as the only QBs in history with a career passer rating over 100

22-of-31 passes for 339 yards, two touchdowns, and no interceptions is not just a "solid game".

You, and this site in general, really need to try to appreciate what we've got in Russ instead of looking for all the aspects of his game there are to complain about. He's not perfect, but the reality is that nobody else is either. The ice water he's got in his veins in the 4th quarters of games is priceless.[/quote]


Great post!!!!

[HumanCockroach]

There's a difference between "not appreciating" Wilson, and burrying your head in the sand in regards to his erratic play. You may not be capable of winning a football game in quarters 1-3, but you CAN lose them. There's a reason that the QB that currently sits ahead of Wilson in fourth quarter winning drives isn't named Rodgers or Brady, but Stafford... to have that many comebacks/ game winning drives, you have to trail in the 4th quarter.

Those QBs tend to play at a high level, for all 4 quarters, it's an anomaly to accomplish passing yardage under 100 yards in the first half, yet a common , almost weekly event with Russ. Pointing out erratic or poor play by a player, is common , and to be expected, especially when said player is the face of the franchise, and highest paid player on the team ( and likely to get an insane raise shortly).

Appreciating, and ignoring aren't the same thing. Some are like the defensive players that expect accountability, some are like Carroll and instead expect different rules. Nothing wrong with either, but personally, I doubt Wilson is fragile enough to shatter should he happen upon somebody pointing out truth as a game plays out ( ie he ran into a sack, held the ball to long, or over or under threw a pass again) in fact, if there's anything I've seen in his almost 7 seasons, he would AGREE with the criticism, and it's not necessary to coddle the man, week in and week out.

[Anthony]

There's a difference between "no appreciating" Wilson, and burrying your head in the sand in regards to his erratic play. You may not be capable off winning a football game in quarters 1-3, but you CAN lose them. There's a reason that the QB that currently sits ahead of Wilson in fourth quarter winning drives isn't named Rodgers or Brady, but Stafford... to have that many comebacks/ game winning drives, you have to trail in the 4th quarter.

Those QBs tend to play at a high level, for all 4 quarters, it's an anomaly to accomplish passing yardage under 100 yards in the first half, yet a common , almost weekly event with Russ. Pointing out erratic or poor play by a player, is common , and to be expected, especially when said player is the face of the franchise, and highest paid player on the team ( and likely to get an insane raise shortly).

Appreciating, and ignoring aren't the same thing. Some are like the defensive players that expect accountability, some are like Carroll and instead expect different rules. Nothing wrong with either, but personally, I doubt Wilson is fragile enough to shatter should he happen upon somebody pointing out truth as a game plays out ( ie he ran into a sack, held the ball to long, or over or under threw a pass again) in fact, if there's anything I've seen in his almost 7 seasons, he would AGREE with the criticism, and it's not necessary to coddle the man, week in and week out.

SO much for erratict now make up something else


Wilson is the only QB this season to not post a rating under 85 in any one game.

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/11/25/1 ... ter-reacts

[HumanCockroach]

You need to learn the definition of erratic, before I even discuss it with you. I'm talking to knowledgeable football fans, not jock sniffing fan boys.

[Anthony]

You need to learn the definition of erratic, before I even discuss it with you. I'm talking to knowledgeable football fans, not jock sniffing fan boys.

LOLl way to refute facts...NOT You talking about football knowledge is laughable, give you have none. When you get some let me know, maybe then you can use facts to support your warped stance. Her elet me help you

Definition of erratic: not even or regular in pattern or movement; unpredictable, inconsistent.


Fact is he is the only QB not to have a Qb rating below 85 in more than 1 game this year, that means he is more consistent than the other Qbs. This is where you either make something up or come back with some very lame kindergarten come back.

[idhawkman]

You need to learn the definition of erratic, before I even discuss it with you. I'm talking to knowledgeable football fans, not jock sniffing fan boys.

Just an FYI, game threads and other threads on this forum go so much quicker and much more intelligible if you just skip over his posts since you already know what they say. I haven't put anyone on the ignore setting but if I ever did it would be him since his posts seem to offer zero value to any thread.

[Anthony]

Just an FYI, game threads and other threads on this forum go so much quicker and much more intelligible if you just skip over his posts since you already know what they say. I haven't put anyone on the ignore setting but if I ever did it would be him since his posts seem to offer zero value to any thread.

LOL yeah I supply facts and stats he supplies nothing and I should be on Foe. Maybe if you guys got over your good old boy network thinking, and actually read the stuff with an open mind you might think differently...or not, either way, your loss.

[HumanCockroach]

*Definition of erratic: not even or regular in pattern or movement; unpredictable, inconsistent

Now if you only had the ability to apply the words in real life....

[Anthony]

Now if you only had the ability to apply the words in real life....

LOL says the man who obviously still does not know what the word means, and that unlike you I supplied FACTS to show you are wrong about him being erratic while you supplied as usual NOTHING. oh well sad but your problem.

[HumanCockroach]

I don't need to supply sh#t, as the word and it's definition is clear. As is how Wilson fits in to that definition ( ie under or over thrown passes followed by absolute dimes... ie ERRATIC. )

Here's a clue. Stats are NOT facts, stats are information, when given without context, or in partial forms, stats a are worthless information that at best is trivia information, at worst, blatant attempts to hide the facts.

If stats, were indeed facts, they would be called facts, not stats you ignorant little fan boy... using your "facts" clearly Matthew Stafford is a first ballot HOF QB. Matt Flynn should have never been beaten out, Wilson should have never been drafted etc, etc, etc...

in fact, supplying stats to show how Wilson has been DEFYING stats, and claiming them as "facts" has a special kind of stupidity to it... so carry on, supply "facts" that had they been listened to originally would have seen your wet dream of a QB / boyfriend or whatever been relegated to never throwing a single pass in the NFL. Thankfully, Seattle isn't as dumb as you, took a chance, DESPITE THE STATS ( or "facts") and because of it, he plays in Seattle...

[Anthony]

I don't need to supply sh#t, as the word and it's definition is clear. As is how Wilson fits in to that definition ( ie under or over thrown passes followed by absolute dimes... ie ERRATIC. )

Here's a clue. Stats are NOT facts, stats are information, when given without context, or in partial forms, stats a are worthless information that at best is trivia information, at worst, blatant attempts to hide the facts.

If stats, were indeed facts, they would be called facts, not stats you ignorant little fan boy... using your "facts" clearly Matthew Stafford is a first ballot HOF QB. Matt Flynn should have never been beaten out, Wilson should have never been drafted etc, etc, etc...

in fact, supplying stats to show how Wilson has been DEFYING stats, and claiming them as "facts" has a special kind of stupidity to it... so carry on, supply "facts" that had they been listened to originally would have seen your wet dream of a QB / boyfriend or whatever been relegated to never throwing a single pass in the NFL. Thankfully, Seattle isn't as dumb as you, took a chance, DESPITE THE STATS ( or "facts") and because of it, he plays in Seattle...

So in other words still no fact just your warped opinion which is worthless. Well, it does make me laugh though so you have that. So sad and getting sadder with every pathetic post. You know I just realized I am being rude allow me to provide more FACTS for you:

TOM BRADY 2015 -> 2018

54 G | 43-11

65.7%
113 TD
24 INT
7.8 YPA
103.1 Passer Rating

Rushing

1.6 YPC
106 Yards
5 TD

2 Receptions for 42 yards.

PFF O-Line Rankings 2015-2018 [[ 25,10,11,3 ]]

Brady is the real deal he deserves all the praise he gets. Though being with Belichick & McDaniels definitely helps. Look at Jimmy G's & Jacoby Brissett's starts when they filled in for the suspended Brady. They are well coached, and well schemed.


AARON RODGERS 2015 -> 2018

49 G | 28-20=1

63.2%
106 TD
22 INT
7.2 YPA
99.2 Passer Rating

Rushing

5.5 YPC
987 Yards
5 TD

0 Receptions

PFF O-Line Rankings 2015-2018 [[ 7,5,13,5 ]]

On odd segment of Rodgers career where his YPA is really low. Full body of work it is very high. Still no excuses he consistently has had had more time to throw than anyone outside of Big Ben.


DREW BREES 2015 -> 2018

56 G | 33-23

71%
113 TD
35 INT
8.0 YPA
105.2 Passer Rating

Rushing

0.7 YPC
74 Yards
8 TD

1 Reception for 1 Yard.

PFF O-Line Rankings 2015-2018 [[ 3,12,9,11 ]]

Sean Payton, and great O-Line play elevate his numbers no doubt, but make no mistake Brees is amazing.


RUSSELL WILSON 2015-2018

58 G | 34-23-1

64.8%
112 TD
35 INT
7.8 YPA
100.6 Rating

Rushing

5.3 YPC
1625 Yards
5 TD

3 Receptions for 3 Yards and a TD.

PFF O-Line Rankings 2015-2018 [[ 30,32,27,19 ]]

wait there is more

#1` against the blitz
https://twitter.com/NFLMatchup/status/1061992279643250694/photo/1

Compared to the supposed best in the NFL
[url]https://twitter.com/theryanmichael/status/1065068420046163968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1065068420046163968&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seahawks.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D2%26t%3D150984%26start%3D250[/url}

And there is more
https://twitter.com/DAZN_CA/status/1066801122344464384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1066801122344464384&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seahawks.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D2%26t%3D150984%26start%3D250

still more
https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1063203954643718144/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1063203954643718144&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seahawks.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D2%26t%3D150984%26start%3D300

and more
https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1067089862598291458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1067089862598291458&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seahawks.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D2%26t%3D150984%26start%3D300

more
https://twitter.com/hwkbgr/status/1066846097912541185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1066846097912541185&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seahawks.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D2%26t%3D150984%26start%3D250

And despite having over 90 less attemps then all aobve him he still is top 10 in YPA, top 6 in tds, top 5 in td/int ratio, top 5 in Qb rating and one of only 2 players wiht a lifetime QB rating over 100

Well there obviously a lot more. At ,this point you can either go away, relent or you just love to argue, or you can just le tit go, or just hate Wilson. Either way I am good, in a court of law this is a slam dunk.

[HumanCockroach]

I will supply facts, the second you actually do... since you have never done so, not a single time, I don't care what you think ( I honestly question if you are capable of it on a regular basis).

[Anthony]

I will supply facts, the second you actually do... since you have never done so, not a single time, I don't care what you think ( I honestly question if you are capable of it on a regular basis).

You should reread the last post I supplied even more facts than the ones I did earlier. You know the FACT that Wilson is the only QB to not have a QB rating below 85 in any one game.


Wilson is the only QB this season to not post a rating under 85 in any one game.

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/11/25/18111680/russell-wilson-is-good-seahawks-panthers-stats-recaps-twitter-reacts

so nice try I supplied facts and stats something you still have not. so sad

[RiverDog]

You're nuts. "Breesian" is exactly what Russ was in this game. That 4th down TD and the long pass to the 10 yard line to win the game were exactly the sort of things you'd expect of a guy like Brees.

No need for the caustic reply. Russell, once again, had a slow start to this game, was 4-9 at one point, misfiring on a sure TD and forcing us to settle for a FG, which is why I downgraded his performance slightly. IMO he had a solid performance overall, didn't turn the ball over or take stupid sacks for big losses, and was spot on when we needed him most. And I did say that I didn't object to giving him a game ball for his performance. You're acting like I said he was trash.

Brees is having a career year, hitting on over 76% of his passes and leading his team to a 10-1 record. They're the odds on favorite to win the Lombardi and Brees the MVP. That's what I meant by "Breesian".

Just to put things in perspective, did you see Phillip Rivers performance last Sunday? 28-29 passing including his first 25 in a row (a record) and set a record for the highest completion percentage in a game. He has his Chargers at 8-3.

It's a quarterback's league, and eye popping, record breaking performances are the norm.

[c_hawkbob]

First, there was no caustic at all in my post, none. Did you perceive that from my saying you're nuts? If so know that it at least that it wasn't said with any caustic intent. A touch of exasperation maybe ...

Exasperation born of posts from you exactly like the one I'm replying to; you seem to be saying that because someone else had a game (or a season) that impressed you more Russ is only middling. Put the perceived slight aside and actually read my previous post for what it says, anything I try to add now would only be trying to rephrase that.

[RiverDog]

First, there was no caustic at all in my post, none. Did you perceive that from my saying you're nuts?

Yes. If not caustic, it was inflammatory. I saw no need for that kind of response in a situation where all we have to go on is written text. But I've already put aside the remark. I've been called much worse.

Exasperation born of posts from you exactly like the one I'm replying to; you seem to be saying that because someone else had a game (or a season) that impressed you more Russ is only middling. Put the perceived slight aside and actually read my previous post for what it says, anything I try to add now would only be trying to rephrase that.

You and I have a basic disagreement in our overall assessment of Russell Wilson. I think he's a very good quarterback and a near perfect fit for our team. He does what we ask of him, and anything critical I say about him has to be kept in context. I don't want to speak for you, but you've mentioned that you feel he's on track for the HOF, something I don't feel he is close to achieving, at least not at this point in his career and certainly not if he plays another 5+ years with Pete and his run first, defense-orientated philosophy.

I mentioned Brees and Rivers' performances to highlight just how QB centered this league is and how lost Russell's solid performance last Sunday can become when other QB's are lighting up the scoreboard and piling up the stats.

At least as it applies to Russell, we'll have to agree to disagree.

[c_hawkbob]

If "you're nuts" is actually caustic and inflammatory to you all I can say is you've seriously developed some rice-paper skin in your retirement years ...

[RiverDog]

If "you're nuts" is actually caustic and inflammatory to you all I can say is you've seriously developed some rice-paper skin in your retirement years ...

If you would have said something about my remarks, it would be one thing. But you said that "I" was nuts, which I thought was uncalled for. If I had as thin of a skin as you are suggesting, I would have responded in kind.

Now let's forget about it and move on.

[HumanCockroach]

Is that the same guy that has issues with my posts because I say things like "I fail to see how...", or "clearly" in them? Interesting.

[Anthony]

No need for the caustic reply. Russell, once again, had a slow start to this game, was 4-9 at one point, misfiring on a sure TD and forcing us to settle for a FG, which is why I downgraded his performance slightly. IMO he had a solid performance overall, didn't turn the ball over or take stupid sacks for big losses, and was spot on when we needed him most. And I did say that I didn't object to giving him a game ball for his performance. You're acting like I said he was trash.

Brees is having a career year, hitting on over 76% of his passes and leading his team to a 10-1 record. They're the odds on favorite to win the Lombardi and Brees the MVP. That's what I meant by "Breesian".

Just to put things in perspective, did you see Phillip Rivers performance last Sunday? 28-29 passing including his first 25 in a row (a record) and set a record for the highest completion percentage in a game. He has his Chargers at 8-3.

It's a quarterback's league, and eye popping, record breaking performances are the norm.

LOL any excuse you can use to downgrade his performance you will use LOl so sad. TO bad all the FACTS and STATS I showed are both year and career stuff. But still sad you have to come up with excuses to downgrade his performance. So sad

[burrrton]

Our QB just had a game in which he completed 70% of his passes for over 300 yards, 2 TDs, no INTs for a rating of like 130 (not to mention the comeback win in a game in which our D got absolutely *gashed*) and there are people *criticizing* that performance?

Guys...

[RiverDog]

Our QB just had a game in which he completed 70% of his passes for over 300 yards, 2 TDs, no INTs for a rating of like 130 (not to mention the comeback win in a game in which our D got absolutely *gashed*) and there are people *criticizing* that performance?

Guys...

Who's criticizing it? The worst I said was that he had a slow start and missed a TD pass. My point was that there's A LOT of great QB performances and Russell's performance, although very good, wasn't "Breesian", ie exceptional.

BTW, did anyone here notice that yesterday Marcus Mariota was 22-23 for 303 yards and 2 TD's 0 INT's and a 147.7 QB rating? Probably not, because his team lost by 3 scores.

[c_hawkbob]

So it's very good now. At least we got you to move off of solid.

By every standard but your own it was an outstanding game. Hell he even got The Call from Dion Sanders.

[HumanCockroach]

Is the theory that Wilson is perfect because he had a good game? When was that rule instituted? Anyone claiming he hasn't been erratic in the last several seasons simply don't want to believe what their eyes are telling them. Few if any have bashed Wilson during his career in Seattle, numerous have professed their admiration and belief he's the perfect QB for Seattle, somehow, that is constantly ignored when his inconsistencies, or mistakes are pointed out. Simply put, somebody points out the foolishness of the run at the end of the half against GB, or that the football was delivered LATE and HIGH in consecutive games costing Seattle points, and they are bashing or hating on Wilson, when really all it is, is we are WATCHING the game, and commenting on what is occurring.

The hypocracy here is insane. Wilson is a grown man, and paid exceedingly well to do his job, when he doesn't, saying so it isn't some sort of blasphemy, it's observations. No different than anyone one on this board has done with other players. Including those enamored with creating excuses for Wilson at the. Slightest inkling of a critisism.

[Anthony]

Is the theory that Wilson is perfect because he had a good game? When was that rule instituted? Anyone claiming he hasn't been erratic in the last several seasons simply don't want to believe what their eyes are telling them. Few if any have bashed Wilson during his career in Seattle, numerous have professed their admiration and belief he's the perfect QB for Seattle, somehow, that is constantly ignored when his inconsistencies, or mistakes are pointed out. Simply put, somebody points out the foolishness of the run at the end of the half against GB, or that the football was delivered LATE and HIGH in consecutive games costing Seattle points, and they are bashing or hating on Wilson, when really all it is, is we are WATCHING the game, and commenting on what is occurring.

The hypocracy here is insane. Wilson is a grown man, and paid exceedingly well to do his job, when he doesn't, saying so it isn't some sort of blasphemy, it's observations. No different than anyone one on this board has done with other players. Including those enamored with creating excuses for Wilson at the. Slightest inkling of a critisism.

Hm once again erratic with no supporting fact or stat let me help you

2013
1st half 15 TD, Rate 106.3
2nd half 14 TD, Rate 95.5

2014
1st half 11 TD, rate 91.2
2nd half 14 TD, RATE 95.3

2015
1ST HALF 16 TD, RATE 101.4
2ND HALF 22 TD, RATE 111.4

2016
1ST HALF 12 TD, RATE 96.8
2ND HALF 13 TD, RATE 88.7

2017
1ST HALF 8 TD, RATE 78
2ND HALF 26 TD, RATE 112

2018
1ST HALF 12 TD, RATE 119
2ND HALF 13 TD, RATE 105


Hmm seems pretty consistent except for 1 year. So let compare though

Tom Brady the supposed GOAT
2013
1st 11tds, rate 87.4
2nd 14 tds, rate 88.4

2014
1st 18tds, rate 98.4
2nd 15 tds, rate 96.2

2015
1st 19 tds, rate 106.8
2nd half 17tds, rate 98.4

2016
1st 17 tds, rate 108.7
2nd 11 tds, rate 116.7

2017
1st 21 tds, rate 106
2nf half 11 tds, rqate 98.6

2018
1st half 11tds, rate 98.4
2nd Half 8 tds, rate 93.7

Also seems pretty consistent. So except for the one bad year Wilson has an avg difference form 1st half to 2nd of 9, Brady has an avg difference of 5.5 Hmm pretty close only 3.5 difference.
Now let's look at TDs Wilson has an avg of 12.34 tds in the first half, and 17 in the 2nd difference of 4.6. Brady has an avg of 16 in the first half and 12.6 in the 2nd half a difference of 3.4 again close.

So I guess Brady is erratic also. Also, let's remember I am comparing Brady as he is now to Wilson as he is now. I bet if I compare each of their first 7 years it would be even closer. Admittingly if I had the 1 bad year the gap in QB rating for Wilson goes up to 12 and the difference between he and Brady is now 6.5 still close. So again I guess Brady is inaccurate, FYI I can do it for almost every QB in the league. The problem you have is you think last year was the norm when in fact it was the outlier. SO much for being erratic.

[RiverDog]

So it's very good now. At least we got you to move off of solid.

By every standard but your own it was an outstanding game. Hell he even got The Call from Dion Sanders.

I'll move off of solid if you'll move off of Breesian. And by every standard? How about we use some stats from Week 12 as a standard:

Russell Wilson 22-31, 339, 2 TD

Dak Prescott 22-31, 289, 2 TD's

Matt Ryan, 35-47, 377, 2 TD's

Baker Mayfield, 19-26, 258, 4 TD's

Jameis Winston, 29-38, 312, 2 TD's

Phillip Rivers, 28-29, 259, 3 TD's

Ben Worthlessburger, 41-56, 462, 1 TD

Andrew Luck, 30-37, 343, 3 TD's

Kirk Cousins, 29-38, 342, 3 TD's

Marcus Mariota, 22-23, 303, 2 TD's

We can argue about semantics all we want, but the point that I am trying to make, that you and some of the others keep missing, is that at least statistically and relative to other quarterbacking performances around the league, Russell's performance last Sunday was not exceptional. I invite you to weigh in on my Quarterback Play thread.

And before you say it, I'm not accepting Anthony's stats monkey crown!