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Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:27 am

Yes this is a trap game for the Chiefs. What do they have except a great QB..... stop we beat Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton and should have beaten Goff twice. We are going to win they won't know what hit them. We may have dropped two to the Rams but not the Chiefs. Our defense is improved. Please tell me how we are going to be victorious.....vs the Chiefs in Seattle. Post your opinion please.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:37 pm

I was wrong it's not a trap game for the Chiefs the next game they have is against the Raiders. I think they will be beat up by the Chargers, also their QB IS not invincible.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Hawktawk » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:06 am

Yes we can. We could well have beaten the Rams twice and held them in the 30's They gave up 50+ and lost. Also it will be interesting how this Kareem Hunt thing falls. Its got to divide the locker room somewhat beyond just the simple fact that Hunt is a top back in the league. Will it be a monumental task? Absolutely. Will they be favored? probably. But it's not out of the question. Seattle is being called the "scariest" WC hopeful. The next 4 weeks would be a good time to prove it.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby RiverDog » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:32 am

I still have a lot of concerns about our defense, but the offense is progressing nicely. KC is absolutely a beatable team, especially given that we get them in our house. But we're going to have to make it a little more intimidating than we did last Sunday. Perhaps the state can give out some free passes to a bunch of inmates.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby idhawkman » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:22 am

RiverDog wrote:I still have a lot of concerns about our defense, but the offense is progressing nicely. KC is absolutely a beatable team, especially given that we get them in our house. But we're going to have to make it a little more intimidating than we did last Sunday. Perhaps the state can give out some free passes to a bunch of inmates.

Well I'm hoping that the fact we are going against the Cheifs (also a contender for loudest stadium in the NFL) should bring out the noise.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby RiverDog » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:36 am

idhawkman wrote:Well I'm hoping that the fact we are going against the Cheifs (also a contender for loudest stadium in the NFL) should bring out the noise.


Something's missing from this team. We don't have a crotch grabbing Beast or a heavy hitter like Kam to give us some personality, and I think it affects our 12th man. As much as I detested Sherman's antics, it had the effect of putting a little swagger in our step.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby curmudgeon » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:03 am

Is it possible that the demographic of the fan is changing from 60 minute, full-throated fanatic to selfie-taking scenester?.....
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby RiverDog » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:41 am

curmudgeon wrote:Is it possible that the demographic of the fan is changing from 60 minute, full-throated fanatic to selfie-taking scenester?.....


You could be onto something. It may, indeed, be generational. I've always felt that the current generation of millennials are more secure and have a bit more of an air of entitlement vs. the baby boomers and Gen X. I guess you'd have to sample other venues around the league to test the theory.

But my favorite theory is that increased ticket prices has forced the loud, foul mouthed Joe 6 Pack to stay home, so it's more of a class thing than it is generational.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Vegaseahawk » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:33 pm

RiverDog wrote:I still have a lot of concerns about our defense, but the offense is progressing nicely. KC is absolutely a beatable team, especially given that we get them in our house. But we're going to have to make it a little more intimidating than we did last Sunday. Perhaps the state can give out some free passes to a bunch of inmates.


That wouldn't work. Those guys are all Raiders fans.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby idhawkman » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:38 pm

I'm a defense oriented guy and would love an enforcer like the Hammer or Kam to step up or even a loud mouth like Sherm on D but what I really want to see right now on this team is a REAL NASTY OLINE that is going to grind you into the dirt and bow their back on you. Kind of like Futch used to do or how Breno Giacomini could get under the opponent's skin. We need the oline to get nasty down the stretch.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Clem7 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:48 pm

Beat Minnesota and we'll be on a roll. Do that and KC beware.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Hawktawk » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:28 am

RiverDog wrote:I still have a lot of concerns about our defense, but the offense is progressing nicely. KC is absolutely a beatable team, especially given that we get them in our house. But we're going to have to make it a little more intimidating than we did last Sunday. Perhaps the state can give out some free passes to a bunch of inmates.


I'm not sure what your talking about with our home field crowd. I was there and thought it was pretty loud. I've still got 12th man laryngitis personally :D I think that kid Mullens is really pretty good. We were fortunate to turn them over inside the 20s.

Crowd noise only gets you so far then it comes down to players making plays which we did. I'll also say the 9ers traveled pretty well. I saw lots of red and gold in sluggers and in the stands including in my seating area.I really enjoyed jeering "2 and 9ers"!!!!about to be 2 and 10 ers!!!!
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Oly » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:26 am

I think that if the Hawks played the Chiefs 10 times at the Clink, they win 4 of them. So while the Chiefs should probably be favorites, it won't be shocking at all if the Hawks pull off the minor upset.

On attitude: I totally agree. Pete's preferred style of play lends itself to that emotional, hard hitting leader like Kam or intense competitor like Earl. It kind of needs it, and B.Wagz--the leader of the defense and, frankly, the team at this point--just doesn't have that same attitude. That attitude pervaded the SB team and helped them dominate against the Broncos. That was the epitome of heart over scheme, and the Hawks just don't have that right now. I'd love to see Carson or Clark play with more swagger. For the next draft, I want to see a big-hitting SS to replace Kam, then move McDougald to FS.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:38 am

Frank Clark and Jones need some swagger in this game. McDougal Griffin and Flowers swagger. Colman on ST swagger Wright swagger. Lockett Baldwin and that new kid Moore swagger. WILSON SWAGGER!!!!!!!

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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Hawktawk » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:07 am

Wilson has plenty of swagger. Tossing the linebackers shoe was swagger as were all the super efficient stone cold daggers. Schottys offense with his were going to run and you can't stop it then throw it over your head attitude is swagger. Wags has swag. I've seen plenty of hard hits and big plays this year.

For all the people whining about the good old days it really wasn't very good the last couple of years, especially when Thomas was out of the lineup. I'm quite pleased with the teams progress and attitude right now. I guess the word of warning is they were actually 8-4 as I recall a year ago. Let's finish and seal the deal this year.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby RiverDog » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:35 am

Hawktawk wrote:Wilson has plenty of swagger. Tossing the linebackers shoe was swagger as were all the super efficient stone cold daggers. Schottys offense with his were going to run and you can't stop it then throw it over your head attitude is swagger. Wags has swag. I've seen plenty of hard hits and big plays this year.

For all the people whining about the good old days it really wasn't very good the last couple of years, especially when Thomas was out of the lineup. I'm quite pleased with the teams progress and attitude right now. I guess the word of warning is they were actually 8-4 as I recall a year ago. Let's finish and seal the deal this year.


Russell doesn't have the type of swagger that we're talking about. He's too nice of a guy, and everyone knows it. It's not an insult. There have been plenty of HOF'ers, and not only QB's, that did not possess that type of swagger, Merlin Olson being one that comes to mind.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Hawktawk » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:23 am

RiverDog wrote:
Russell doesn't have the type of swagger that we're talking about. He's too nice of a guy, and everyone knows it. It's not an insult. There have been plenty of HOF'ers, and not only QB's, that did not possess that type of swagger, Merlin Olson being one that comes to mind.


Russell is an assassin. He really is a nice guy but not in your face like Rivers who I greatly respect BTW.But he hates your guts for 60 minutes and has a burning desire to win and lead men as much as anyone. Just look at his dead shark eyes when he's on the field.

Russ is like a description I heard of John Stockton by the Worm Dennis Rodman." he's one of the dirtiest players in the league, he comes across as a nice guy but then he will stick a knee in your thigh and talk some junk". Russ just sticks a knife in your throat right when you think you have him beat.Or he will throw a shoe and get the opposing team penalized or draw the 9ers offsides in the NFC title game and throw a 37 yard TD on 4th down or he will pass up the short route and throw a 34 yard TD on 4th down to stun Carolina.

Loved Merlin Olsen both on and off the field as a broadcaster. IMO Russ will join him in Canton someday.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby RiverDog » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:05 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Russell is an assassin. He really is a nice guy but not in your face like Rivers who I greatly respect BTW.But he hates your guts for 60 minutes and has a burning desire to win and lead men as much as anyone. Just look at his dead shark eyes when he's on the field.

Russ is like a description I heard of John Stockton by the Worm Dennis Rodman." he's one of the dirtiest players in the league, he comes across as a nice guy but then he will stick a knee in your thigh and talk some junk". Russ just sticks a knife in your throat right when you think you have him beat.Or he will throw a shoe and get the opposing team penalized or draw the 9ers offsides in the NFC title game and throw a 37 yard TD on 4th down or he will pass up the short route and throw a 34 yard TD on 4th down to stun Carolina.

Loved Merlin Olsen both on and off the field as a broadcaster. IMO Russ will join him in Canton someday.


I'm not disagreeing with your assessment of Russell. What I am saying is that the type of swagger we need is something along the lines we had when Beast was our centerpiece. That's something that Russell simply doesn't have and will never have. I just can't see Russell adjusting his ball sack.

I remember an interview with Deacon Jones on the subject of Merlin Olson. He described how difficult it was to get Olson mad at anything yet he played like a man possessed. Anger and/or rage is not what motivated Merlin Olson, nor is it the emotion that Russell Wilson derives his competitive spirit from.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby obiken » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:21 pm

No, too many weapons.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:18 pm

Minus a battle tested RB their starter.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby HumanCockroach » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:04 pm

Of course they can, though the DB play is going to have to greatly improve, and some consistent pressure will be necessary. Both things that are dicey at best this season.

Seattle CAN beat any team in the NFL, but gone are the days where they could play mediocre and still win. They play mediocre against KC/Rams or Saints and they'll get run out of the building.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Anthony » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:25 am

obiken wrote:No, too many weapons.


I think they can, but certain things need to happen, we need KJ back, we need to be willing to change and adapt quickly, we can't wait for a qtr to adjust. We need to get pressure on the QB. We need to go in with the mindset to score with them until our defense can make adjustments, their defense is not great so yeah we can.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:10 am

The Ravens sent K.C. into overtime so I don't see that we don't do the same thing only we win.

We can play them tough and win just like the Ravens, who we could also win against.

Plus KC will be beat up by the Chargers maybe Maholms is injured you never know.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby idhawkman » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:21 am

politicalfootball wrote:The Ravens sent K.C. into overtime so I don't see that we don't do the same thing only we win.

We can play them tough and win just like the Ravens, who we could also win against.

Plus KC will be beat up by the Chargers maybe Maholms is injured you never know.

Strongly disagree with this sentiment. I don't mind bruises in a hard fought FB game but I hope Mahomes is full go against us so we know we beat the team when they were healthy. (I know their WR had a foot thing and that their RB is out for the rest of the year but that is natural season stuff.) I never hope or wish for someone else being hurt in order to win. I want to beat their best so I know we are truly better.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby RiverDog » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:12 am

Although he wasn't very clear, I didn't get the idea that PF was hoping that Mahomes gets injured.

The 49'ers game is more important to our cause than KC. It's a conference game, which is important in a tiebreaker secenerio. We can afford a loss to KC so long as we beat either the Niners or the Cards. The Chiefs game is not much more than a warm up game for the playoffs. Besides, we need Russell to get that bad taste out of his mouth from last night, and the sooner, the better.

We win against both the Niners and the Chiefs and the game against the Cards will be a mail in.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:34 pm

I said Maybe Maholms is injured, what I meant was wear and tear, (you know beat up like by the Chargers who are tough to beat. )

No I'm like River I never wish a season injury on nobody, especially Maholms for our game.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby HumanCockroach » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:44 pm

A win against the Niners locks a playoff spot on Sunday, a victory in either of the last two games, locks the five seed. At this point, even losing out ( not that I want, or expect that) with tiebreakers, likely Seattle is still in.

A win this week guarantees a playoff spot, a win against KC guarantees fifth seed.... regardless of Arizona outcome.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby idhawkman » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:23 am

politicalfootball wrote:I said Maybe Maholms is injured, what I meant was wear and tear, (you know beat up like by the Chargers who are tough to beat. )

No I'm like River I never wish a season injury on nobody, especially Maholms for our game.

my sincere apologies.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby idhawkman » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:26 am

HumanCockroach wrote:A win against the Niners locks a playoff spot on Sunday, a victory in either of the last two games, locks the five seed. At this point, even losing out ( not that I want, or expect that) with tiebreakers, likely Seattle is still in.

A win this week guarantees a playoff spot, a win against KC guarantees fifth seed.... regardless of Arizona outcome.

Yep. that all said, I don't think Carroll mails in the final game regardless. He may sit starters which could be seen as mailing it in but he will still be trying to win that game with the people he has out there.

I thikn the big difference is going to be Carroll wanting to sit any starter with the slightest boo-boo to get healthy for the final push.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:33 am

Yeah the slightest boo boo.....

Sometimes he does mail it in lol , maybe the right opportunity to play Penny
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Rambo2014 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:37 pm

A big NOPE
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby obiken » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:36 am

You need to worry about your Rams imploding there Lambo!
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:52 am

Yeah I'm thinking Penny will have plenty of snaps !


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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby RiverDog » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:13 am

politicalfootball wrote:Yeah I'm thinking Penny will have plenty of snaps !


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Not this week. Penny didn't practice yesterday, so even if he does suit up, he's more than likely going to see very limited duty.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Rambo2014 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:24 am

MaHome will make the Seattle secondary's head spin

Better think about ARZ they own your stadium
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Hawktawk » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:34 am

Rambo2014 wrote:MaHome will make the Seattle secondary's head spin

Better think about ARZ they own your stadium

You mean like the bears and eagles made Goff’s air head spin ramblo?
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:43 pm

Lions and Tigers and Bears oh my (I mean Bengals not Tigers) they can all beat your precious Rams ramblo !

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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Hawktawk » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:36 am

Looks like we get some penney and KJ ,maybe on a pitch count. I dunno. I had a feeling of doom all week before the 9ers game but I dont right now. My biggest fear is getting reffed up again with the NFL darling "showtime " Mahomes coming to town. If were getting rung up for 14 and a team record in yards vs a 3-10 team how bad could it get sunday? :cry: :cry: If they let us just play ball we could win but we damn sure would have last week as well.We will know by 8:30 sunday.
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby Rambo2014 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:40 pm

Berry gets 2-3 INT's

RW is no good in the rain
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Re: Can Seattle beat the Chiefs in Seattle ?

Postby politicalfootball » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:34 pm

Berry ? You think Berry ? Will intercept several passes ? Lol 2or3 !
LMAO lamebo

Not in this game maybe in other games it's been awhile even then. We Will Be Victorious Not KFC !!!

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