RiverDog wrote:
Well, although I wouldn't characterized it as "grabbed", I've touched a woman's privates without their permission on a number of occasions. At times, I received a positive response, other times got my hand slapped. I mean, you don't normally ask a woman "do you mind if I touch your privates?" Does that prove that I'd never turn down multiple hookers?
But you're right about it being a moot point. With each passing day, Donald Trump becomes less and less relevant. These questions as to "who's pulling Trump's strings and why" will be left for historians to figure out.
Hawktawk wrote:Well Trump described it as "grab em by the P#$$y, grab em by whatever". I'm assuming and hoping your number of occasions involved relationships or at least dates where it was a mutual thing. Everybody not a eunuch has those stories.
I was trying to make a point. There's almost never verbal permission asked for or granted in a typical romantic encounter, at least not in the ones I've been engaged in. It's an unspoken, 6th sense type of thing. But I've always been a "no means no" type of guy.
As far as the "Grab 'em" remark goes, the outrageous part of it wasn't that Trump said it, it was the fact that he was a man in his 40's with several daughters when he said it. As an unmarried 20 something year old, I might have said the same type of thing when in an audience composed of all males. Most normal men, as they grow older, gain a certain degree of sensitivity regarding their attitudes towards women, or least that was my experience.
Hawktawk wrote:Trump's victims report simply being assaulted by the man in all kinds of situations, in bars, in limousines, on airplanes. Genitals and breasts grabbed, pushed up against the wall, tongue kissed by a guy they just met..Bill Barr was using the DOJ to shield Trump from lawsuits from 2 of the women which will be moot now. He's admitted walking in on nude contestants on purpose with some as young as 15 verifying his stories. Nothing about any of that is normal or excusable.
It's hard to tell what's true and what isn't, particularly when the accused is famous and with tons of money. But the fact that there's been so many complaints and accusations about Trump's behavior that has stretched over so many years that it's one of those "where there's smoke, there's fire" type of things, so basically I feel that at least some of the rumors are more likely to be true than they are false.
Hawktawk wrote:Both Stormy daniels and Karen McDougal say Trump tried to pay them as if they were prostitutes. Melania has referred to Daniels as a "porn hooker" which drew a lot of anger in the porn community
Just a couple of terms. Daniels and McDougal are prostitutes. They perform sexual acts and/or poses for money. My understanding of a hooker is that of a street walker or call girl that performs sex in exchange for money, a little different than performing for a camera with the object of producing for sale pictures or videos, ie pornography.