Here we go with Jamal Adams

[mykc14]

If our defense played better last season, then I could see it. But here's the statement he's making: "Yeah, we were the 31st ranked pass defense in the league and bottom third overall, and yeah, we got beat in the playoffs by a one armed quarterback, but so what! It wasn't my fault. I made the Pro Bowl. Now show me the money!"

He's not taking any responsibility for the team's performance. It's the absolute wrong message to be sending his coaches and teammates and one of the reasons why I'm not enamored with individual post season awards.

I still don’t get it. It’s a contract negotiation, why wouldn’t he use everything in his arsenal to earn the most amount of money. What would you do in that situation? Would you say “yeah I know I had a career year, but our D sucked so I won’t try and negotiate as much money as I can for myself. I’ll take less money because our FA totally botched last off-season and we started the year without a viable pass rush.” I could maybe see your point if there were multiple years left on his contract and this was coming out but that’s not the case. If they wanted to keep him they were going to try to do it this off-season anyway. I didn’t see this anger/frustration/confusion when #16 was resigned earlier this off-season. It’s almost the exact same situation. Do you think Tyler wanted to get paid like a Pro Bowler?? How did he and the offense perform in that playoff loss? Lockett had the best season of his career but the offense was terrible in the second half of the season. They were a top 3 offense through the first half of the season and then finished ranked 17th!! They were not good and the playoff loss was as much on them as it was on our D.

[NorthHawk]

I'm thinking along the lines of mykc14.
He wants market value, so how much is a Pro Bowl S worth in the NFL? I don't think it's too much to ask.
Unfortunately our Cap room might not allow us to re-sign him.

[RiverDog]

I still don’t get it. It’s a contract negotiation, why wouldn’t he use everything in his arsenal to earn the most amount of money. What would you do in that situation? Would you say “yeah I know I had a career year, but our D sucked so I won’t try and negotiate as much money as I can for myself. I’ll take less money because our FA totally botched last off-season and we started the year without a viable pass rush.” I could maybe see your point if there were multiple years left on his contract and this was coming out but that’s not the case. If they wanted to keep him they were going to try to do it this off-season anyway. I didn’t see this anger/frustration/confusion when #16 was resigned earlier this off-season. It’s almost the exact same situation. Do you think Tyler wanted to get paid like a Pro Bowler?? How did he and the offense perform in that playoff loss? Lockett had the best season of his career but the offense was terrible in the second half of the season. They were a top 3 offense through the first half of the season and then finished ranked 17th!! They were not good and the playoff loss was as much on them as it was on our D.

What would I do in that situation? It's very hard for me to answer that question as we're not connected emotionally to the team. The business side of me would say yes, I'd use every trick in the book to get more money. But the football side of me would tell me to be more concerned with winning championships than making a couple extra million when I'm already making millions and set for life. What is my priority, to make the absolute maximum amount of money or to make a respectable amount while collecting a ring?

Part of my angst is derived from what is now the generally accepted practice of re-negotiating contracts, sometimes with multiple years left on them. If you don't like your contract, then you shouldn't have signed it. IMO Kam Chancellor's holdout, with 3 years left on his contract and already one of the highest paid safeties in the league, was the beginning of the end of our mini dynasty. He was never the same player and we were never the same team.

[NorthHawk]

Diggs is in the last year of his current contract. Our FO has usually renegotiated contracts a year before they end
so I don't think Diggs is out of line asking for a renewal at this time.

[mykc14]

What would I do in that situation? It's very hard for me to answer that question as we're not connected emotionally to the team. The business side of me would say yes, I'd use every trick in the book to get more money. But the football side of me would tell me to be more concerned with winning championships than making a couple extra million when I'm already making millions and set for life. What is my priority, to make the absolute maximum amount of money or to make a respectable amount while collecting a ring?

Part of my angst is derived from what is now the generally accepted practice of re-negotiating contracts, sometimes with multiple years left on them. If you don't like your contract, then you shouldn't have signed it. IMO Kam Chancellor's holdout, with 3 years left on his contract and already one of the highest paid safeties in the league, was the beginning of the end of our mini dynasty. He was never the same player and we were never the same team.

I tend to agree with this point of view when there are multiple years left on a contract, but that’s not the case here. I mean he is not even in the top 25 paid safeties in the NFL. We’re not talking about a few million either, we are talking about at least doubling his contract so he is underpaid and at a time when he should be looking for a new contact- with one year left, not multiple years. You should not have any ill feelings towards what Diggs is doing/asking for. He is in a negotiation year, he hasn’t held out, and is asking to get paid like a pro-bowler. He’s not asking to be the highest paid safety in the league or anything crazy. I don’t see how anybody can have an issue with how he is handling this based on the information that we have about the situation.

[RiverDog]

I tend to agree with this point of view when there are multiple years left on a contract, but that’s not the case here. I mean he is not even in the top 25 paid safeties in the NFL. We’re not talking about a few million either, we are talking about at least doubling his contract so he is underpaid and at a time when he should be looking for a new contact- with one year left, not multiple years. You should not have any ill feelings towards what Diggs is doing/asking for. He is in a negotiation year, he hasn’t held out, and is asking to get paid like a pro-bowler. He’s not asking to be the highest paid safety in the league or anything crazy. I don’t see how anybody can have an issue with how he is handling this based on the information that we have about the situation.

Yeah, tough to make ends meet on $6m/year nowadays!

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But you're right about him not holding out...yet. If the Hawks can accommodate him without having to sacrifice any improvements, then I can swallow it. It's just that I have this thing regarding complaining about terms in a contract that THEY signed. That doesn't happen in the business world. You sign a contract, you're expected to fulfill it, and if you don't, you're libel to wind up in court.

[c_hawkbob]

That doesn't happen in the business world.

But it happens all the time in the NFL world, by the parties of both parts. NFL teams feel no more inclined to honor the full terms of their contracts should relative values change than players do.

[NorthHawk]

It's expected that if a team wants a player in future years they sign them before he becomes a Free Agent.
The option is to not re-sign him and try to compete for him on the open market. If they do see him as part
of their future it would be wise to re-sign him now, if not then trade him for more than a 4th round Comp pick.

[Aseahawkfan]

Yeah, tough to make ends meet on $6m/year nowadays!

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-sea ... ggs-16926/

But you're right about him not holding out...yet. If the Hawks can accommodate him without having to sacrifice any improvements, then I can swallow it. It's just that I have this thing regarding complaining about terms in a contract that THEY signed. That doesn't happen in the business world. You sign a contract, you're expected to fulfill it, and if you don't, you're libel to wind up in court.

How much of the 6 million a year does he actually get? It's astounding how many people forget that the tax rate at that pay is 39.6%. Then you have the payments to the agent. Then you have the training regimen they have to maintain to keep the job. I wonder how much of a contract an athlete actually takes home after all the taxes, fees, and required training.

[RiverDog]

How much of the 6 million a year does he actually get? It's astounding how many people forget that the tax rate at that pay is 39.6%. Then you have the payments to the agent. Then you have the training regimen they have to maintain to keep the job. I wonder how much of a contract an athlete actually takes home after all the taxes, fees, and required training.

How much of anyone's income to we actually get? $6M a year is one helluva lot of money no matter how much you're paying in taxes or how much you're paying in training, representation, etc. Diggs, Adams, and the rest of the Hawks players don't have to worry about having to pay a state income tax like most NFL athletes do. California, for example, takes 10% on income over $1M while New Jersey and New York both take 9% on income over $500K, and that's on top of the federal tax. But no one ever mentions that in contract negotiations, do they?

Sorry, no sympathy from me about their having to pay higher taxes or hiring personal trainers.

[NorthHawk]

It doesn't matter how much he gets after taxes, what's relevant is his worth within the marketplace of his employ.
Looking at the numbers, he's due a raise in pay. Besides, people in that range of compensation can afford to invest
in things that mitigate the tax impact and structure their finances accordingly. That's how Jeff Bezos got a tax refund.

[Aseahawkfan]

I don't care how sympathetic you are and it may very much matter how much he gets after the fact. I know if I were a professional athlete, how much money I actually get in a given a contract would matter a whole lot. Paying millions to the government as part of my salary would definitely be something I think about when negotiating my contract.

That's why I've never been on the side of fans who are like, "You signed the contract. You should finish it." Or the "you're being greedy. You shouldn't ask for that much."

If I were a pro athlete, I'd get as much as I could. I would account for getting better sponsor deals on a winning team as well as being a dominant player in a local market. But I'd still want that big money if I can get it, especially so. If I my contract is six million a year with the government taking 40%, then I take home about 3.5 million of that, so that is my real salary. Good, but I'd still want more.

I sympathize with anyone having to shell out big money to the government in taxes. That tax bill is terrible for not getting much in return.

[RiverDog]

Talking of salaries, I can remember when the first $100K contract happened. I can not remember what year it was but there was a lot of moaning that the game could never survive if the players were making that much.

Must have been sometime in the Pleistocene epoch.

I can go back a lot further than that. It wasn't that long ago where players had to take real jobs in the offseason to make ends meet. George Blanda was an MVP and drove a beer truck for a distributor.

That undoubtedly influences my angst about players that are complaining about being paid "only" $6M, having to pay income tax on it, and having to hire a personal trainer.

[Aseahawkfan]

I can go back a lot further than that. It wasn't that long ago where players had to take real jobs in the offseason to make ends meet. George Blanda was an MVP and drove a beer truck for a distributor.

That undoubtedly influences my angst about players that are complaining about being paid "only" $6M, having to pay income tax on it, and having to hire a personal trainer.

Angst? What if your former employer when you were working decided to pay you half of what you could earn if you went on the job market? Would you just take it because?

It comes down to market economics. If you can get more, you get more. For some reason when a working person does this it's great for them, but when a professional athlete does this it's a problem. It's kind of ridiculous.

Fact is these guys get paid to play football. Their salary works no differently than anyone else's. That means you go get as much as your ability and occupational choice can earn. For the average working person, maybe that is a few bucks an hour or 10,000 more in salary. For a professional athlete, it can be millions. I say go for it.

Just like I don't fault the business people for low balling them. Because a businesses goal is the highest quality worker for the lowest possible price.

That's the game. Pro Athletes should maximize their profit in their short career window. Teams should pay the lowest possible price for the highest possible talent. Fans should consider the negotiation process happen without picking sides or denigrating either side for doing what is natural in a market economics driven profession.

[NorthHawk]

Exactly. And that's why they had to unionize to get their due.
The salaries of players are determined by the NFL marketplace and top QBs are worth more than top LB's; LT's are worth more than TE's, etc.
So what is a Pro Bowl Safety worth? That will be determined in a large part by what other teams are paying their Safeties and what the highest
paid Safeties are getting. There are often range busters like the LB for the Jets (Mosely?) that cost us more for Wagner, but that's what happens.

In this case, Diggs is due a good raise. The question is with the FO wanting to keep Adams, will they want to pay somewhere in the area
of $30 - $35M for a pair of Safeties? I somehow think not and so we will probably have to say goodbye to Diggs either this year in a trade
or next year after his contract runs out and receive a late round Comp pick. Unless they unload Adams and move on which would be a
colossal waste of draft capital.

[Aseahawkfan]

Exactly. And that's why they had to unionize to get their due.
The salaries of players are determined by the NFL marketplace and top QBs are worth more than top LB's; LT's are worth more than TE's, etc.
So what is a Pro Bowl Safety worth? That will be determined in a large part by what other teams are paying their Safeties and what the highest
paid Safeties are getting. There are often range busters like the LB for the Jets (Mosely?) that cost us more for Wagner, but that's what happens.

In this case, Diggs is due a good raise. The question is with the FO wanting to keep Adams, will they want to pay somewhere in the area
of $30 - $35M for a pair of Safeties? I somehow think not and so we will probably have to say goodbye to Diggs either this year in a trade
or next year after his contract runs out and receive a late round Comp pick. Unless they unload Adams and move on which would be a
colossal waste of draft capital.

The draft capital waste is definitely a problem. The draft is the most team friendly source of talent as it allows you to obtain high quality talent if you're good at drafting for a known cost for 3 to 4 years. The team continuing to squander its draft capital on these trades is why we're in the position we're in.

[NorthHawk]

Yah, the draft and Cap mgmt go hand in hand. Poor drafting or trading away picks for high priced players will mean a Cap bind a few years later.

[TriCitySam]

Besides federal income tax, they can also pay income taxes in multiple states (Jock Tax) based on the number of days they are in state playing or practicing. And maybe in the state of their primary residence.

[c_hawkbob]

Nice to hear from you Old dude, can't say I agree with you though. After Bobby, Adams is our best defender, gotta keep guys like that.

[RiverDog]

The best thing the team can do with the future in mind is...Trade Adams now.

His trade value will drop as he approaches free agency. He is still a great player and has a sure future. There will be trade partners. Recover some draft picks and if they happen to have a center...or whatever. It does not make sense to me to have Safety as a large part of the cap. Then look to the trenches and move that cap money to that core group, for example. Who knows? There may be a team out there that can make a great deal (the Seahawks did).

I know, it's not a new thought, but it just seems obvious.

Hey, my friend! Good to hear from ya!

The counter argument about paying a safety such a large percentage of the cap is that Adams isn't a conventional safety. There's not too many safeties that leads their team in QB sacks.

We've already pushed our big pile of chips to the center of the table. We have too much invested in Adams to trade him as there's no way that another team is going to give up anywhere close to the type of draft capital that we traded the Jets for, so we're going to have to try to make it work. I agree that it's not a good situation to be in, but we pretty much have to pay him.

[NorthHawk]

I think they were forced to use Adams like they did. If they continue to do so he won't last more than a couple of years with
the OT's beating him up on a regular basis.
We will see how Pete really intends to use him this year as we should have pressure off the edge. He may attack more than
other Safeties, but I can't see him being used as much as last year. That is unless our pass rush is horrible from the start.

[RiverDog]

I think they were forced to use Adams like they did. If they continue to do so he won't last more than a couple of years with
the OT's beating him up on a regular basis.
We will see how Pete really intends to use him this year as we should have pressure off the edge. He may attack more than
other Safeties, but I can't see him being used as much as last year. That is unless our pass rush is horrible from the start.

What makes Adams special is his pass rushing ability. If we don't use him in that role, then there's no sense paying him big bucks because he's not that great in pass coverage and run defense. Not that he's bad at those two parts of his game, but his long suit is obviously pass rushing.

So if Pete signs him to a big contract, I have a hard time believing that he won't use him like we did last season regardless of how effective our front 7 is at getting pressure. And I'm not holding my breath hoping that our pass rush is going to be significantly better than it was last season.

[NorthHawk]

I think what makes Adams special is how he sees and understands the game.
He has great anticipation and good range and I think that's what Pete sees as a difference maker.
His pass rushing just added to his attraction for Pete, but he will be a 12 game/yr player if they continue to use him like last year.

[Aseahawkfan]

What makes Adams special is his pass rushing ability. If we don't use him in that role, then there's no sense paying him big bucks because he's not that great in pass coverage and run defense. Not that he's bad at those two parts of his game, but his long suit is obviously pass rushing.

So if Pete signs him to a big contract, I have a hard time believing that he won't use him like we did last season regardless of how effective our front 7 is at getting pressure. And I'm not holding my breath hoping that our pass rush is going to be significantly better than it was last season.

Not sure I agree with this. He had 12 and 7 passes defensed in 2018 and 2019 respectively. Only 1 interception each year. He had 115 tackles and 75 tackles with good tackles for loss. He can rush the passer, but how do you know he isn't good at pass defense if Pete doesn't put him in position to do pass defense. Our pass rush was weak last year, which is why we relied on a safety for pass rush production. That number of passes defensed is in line with Earl Thomas, but the ints are lower.

I think if Pete used and trained Jamal Adams to pass defense more often, he would get better at that. But they will have to make sure the defensive line can pass rush again to do that.

That's why I don't want to be paying a safety to be our best pass rusher. That's just a bad idea. If you're going to shell out 20 million, you want that player to be a big athletic freak who can mix it up in the trenches. Not the safety you bring up to rush off the edge as a blitz package.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

Agreed players should get all they can and teams should seek to get the most for their money. Players do throw me off when they feel disrespected for not getting a certain amount. If Adams gets somewhere around $15 million/yr, and says he's been disrespected, my eyes will roll into the back of my head. It also seems like players either don't understand or don't care about the salary cap.

Adams needs to be a safety, not a pass rusher. It will be a bad look if this team has to rely on him to generate pressure again.

[NorthHawk]

Agreed players should get all they can and teams should seek to get the most for their money. Players do throw me off when they feel disrespected for not getting a certain amount. If Adams gets somewhere around $15 million/yr, and says he's been disrespected, my eyes will roll into the back of my head. It also seems like players either don't understand or don't care about the salary cap.

Adams needs to be a safety, not a pass rusher. It will be a bad look if this team has to rely on him to generate pressure again.

Adams has said he wants to reset the Safety salary structure so that's more than $15M and he wants to be paid more like a top DB which is around $20M.
It's too bad the Seahawks were forced to use him as much in a pass rushing role as it gives him even more leverage than he had from the trade that
gave up so much for him.

It wouldn't surprise me if this year we see a lot more of a "Big Nickel" type of Defense with mostly 2 LB's and 5 DB's. This would allow us to cover the underneath slot
receivers and TE's better. Adams would be a part of that coverage scheme and not a regular pass rusher.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

I somewhat get it, but for 20 million bones per year, he has to be more than a pass rusher. What I saw was him being a liability in the playoff game. Those 9.5 sacks don’t mean much to me if that production gets replaced this coming season and he continues to miss on crucial pass plays. $20 million will be a mistake, but we will see if the FO and coaching staff thinks otherwise.

[Aseahawkfan]

If you're not an interception machine shutdown corner or safety or a pass rusher who can mix it up in the trenches, 20 million way too much to spend in my opinion.

[obiken]

THIS IS WHY YOU DONT GIVE UP 2 FIRST ROUNDERS FOR ONE GUY!!!

[Aseahawkfan]

THIS IS WHY YOU DONT GIVE UP 2 FIRST ROUNDERS FOR ONE GUY!!!

Generally not a safety. I personally prefer getting talent in the draft unless it is some extraordinary risk-reward trade like the Lynch trade. Ever since we lost that second Super Bowl, we can't get the discounts we were getting when everyone was on board for winning Super Bowls. If we had won that Super Bowl, I think we would still have that clout that we got from the first SB win. Would have been easier to get players cheaper.

[NorthHawk]

THIS IS WHY YOU DONT GIVE UP 2 FIRST ROUNDERS FOR ONE GUY!!!

I'd give up 2 firsts for a QB if we needed one or a dominating LT who's around 25 years old, or a shutdown corner and maybe a dominating DE.
Safeties just aren't a premium position that teams typically don't value highly. What makes the trade worse for me is Safety wasn't even a huge
need, so the trade resulted in an upgrade of an otherwise relatively solid position.

I still think, though that Pete has something in mind for Adams that we didn't see last year with him being forced into a blitzing role a lot of the time.

[RiverDog]

First of all, due to the pandemic, this year's draft was very unusual as there wasn't ample opportunity to evaluate talent because so many colleges had their seasons interrupted or outright canceled. Players that normally would have been available opted to stay in another year. This devalued draft choices somewhat, so the trade wasn't as expensive as it would have been in a normal year.

Secondly, I'm still in the mode of trusting Pete's judgment on defensive matters. If he thinks that Adams was worth the draft capital we spent on him, then even though it causes me to raise my eyebrows, that's good enough for me....for the time being.

[NorthHawk]

The top of the draft wasn't affected by a lot. Maybe a couple of players but there was a lot of talent
where we could have drafted some quality players in places of need. RB, OC, and DT were all positions of need
and we gave up a chance at those positions. As well, we gave up next years top crop which consists of some of the
players that went back and should be better prepared to move to the next level but might not have been as ready
this past draft.

I think a starting player at the same positon + a 1st round pick would have been the absolute most I would have
given up and even then it would seem too much considering we also gave up a 3rd for a 4th as well.

[c_hawkbob]

You guys are acting as if we traded two #1 draft choices, not two late first rounders.

Our draft pick would have been 26 this year (and likely similarly placed next year) making it a 700 point pick (on the draft value board) not a 3000 point pick as the #1 is valued at. 2 firsts @ 700 per, a third @ 140, plus receiving the 99th pick (104) = 1436 points in draft value. Throw in a generous estimate of a mid 3rd round pick for McDougal, say 185 points and we're at 1621 points. The equivalent of our trading up to the #6 pick in this years draft.

Not at all outrageous, especially given that we got his services for all of last year as a bonus.

[NorthHawk]

Pro Bowl and All Pro players are regularly found at the end of the 1st rounds.
We really need a big time RB and we couldn't get Javon Williams. Watch him this year. He's another Lynch
with his tackle breaking and toughness. We could also have traded down or taken a good player in the 3rd which
we gave up as well at positions we really need help at.

The opportunity costs were too high and it significantly affects our Cap, thus limiting our ability to pay for our
good players later on or attracting Free Agents to fill holes. It was not a good deal for an upgrade to a relatively
solid position and given we had previously drafted Blair and what we've seen of Ryan Neal not to mention McDougald
was solid as well.

[c_hawkbob]

Complete washouts are also often found at the end 1st rounds. With Adams we knew what we were getting and he delivered.

[Hawktawk]

Saw an article relating this to the Jimmy Graham situation. Graham was being negotiated with as strictly a tight end, but he and his agent were arguing he lined up in the slot and outside so often that he should be given consideration as a wide receiver. Big difference in money.

As for Adams, yeah, he came in and got 9.5 sacks. That's all well and good, but he also had some lapses in pass defense. I know he was injured for some of that, especially in the playoff game against the Rams, but, as a safety, he's expected to stop those plays.

I am sure he feels the way Graham did, but I just wonder if you should pay for the 9.5 sack performance if you're not going to put him in the position to do that again this coming season. I feel like Pete would rather get back to having the front seven get most of the pressure. Him sacking the quarterback isn't worth as much to me as him stopping the big pass plays that come his way.

I agree about the playoff game . Adams initially knocked out wofford putting Goff in the game and he later gave up some huge pass plays in the game .he was hurt bad , broken fingers and both shoulders needing surgery but that’s another concern signing a guy who plays so hard he hurts himself .

[Aseahawkfan]

Complete washouts are also often found at the end 1st rounds. With Adams we knew what we were getting and he delivered.

Delivered a 31st ranked passing defense and some flashy pass rush stats for a safety because we don't have good pass rushers?

Not what I want, but hey, it looks good on the stat line.

Draft is good to use not because of some draft chart, but because drafted players are more cap friendly than players like Adams who wants to break the bank at the safety position even though he doesn't appear to be a great cover safety.

If I'm building a team, I only pay that top money for a cover safety. Not some BS pass rushing stats from a safety from trick blitzes that still left us with the 31st ranked pass defense.

That kind of money I only pay to a shutdown corner or safety like Earl or a trench monster who can rush the passer like Donald. I'm not paying huge money and trading double first round picks for a gimmick pass rushing strong safety that can't cover well enough to shore up my back end.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

Agree on all points, Asea. Even compiling the entirety of his career to this point doesn’t make Adams case for $20 million per year.

I like you’re point about BS pass rush stats. It’s all based on gadget play calling not consistently having to beat blocks in front of him.

Will it look bad if they don’t extend a guy they gave up two 1st rounders for? Sure, but it will look worse, at least in my book, if they sign him for $20 million/yr.

[Aseahawkfan]

Agree on all points, Asea. Even compiling the entirety of his career to this point doesn’t make Adams case for $20 million per year.

I like you’re point about BS pass rush stats. It’s all based on gadget play calling not consistently having to beat blocks in front of him.

Will it look bad if they don’t extend a guy they gave up two 1st rounders for? Sure, but it will look worse, at least in my book, if they sign him for $20 million/yr.

The problem for me is I saw where Jamal Adams was drafted and thought he was more like Earl than Kam. I tend to try to stay positive about trades and players. But it's just getting bad in my opinion all this trading 1st and 2nd round picks for talent we don't keep or doesn't fit what we do. Pete tends to get too interested in shiny toys rather than think about what he wants to do and what he needs to do it.

We all been watching Pete's defense and offense for years. He likes a run first-low passing volume ball control offense that grinds clock. He runs a 4-3 Pete Style Tampa 2 defense he learned from Monte Kiffin and modified a bit by him.

For this he needs certain things such as a coverage safety, a reasonably strong defensive line of pass rushers, corners that can push the ball to the middle, fairly strong LBs to cover that soft middle, and a big run stuffer to form the anchor to force passing and turnovers. Jamal Adams is more like Kam, who though valuable is not as valuable as a freak cover safety.

For offense he needs a RB who can churn yards, a versatile TE who can run and pass block nearly equally well and catch the ball consistently, a solid O-line, a QB who can act as that premier point guard and not turn the ball over, and a chain mover and a deep threat at WR.

I wish they would focus on this formula that won them a Super Bowl and made them one of the up and coming dynasties then this shiny toy trading hoping to find ways to fit these folks in.