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Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby burrrton » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:47 pm

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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Stream Hawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:27 pm

My comment - I was weirdly afraid of this. I am worried his success has gone to his head. Damn, right before the freaking schedule comes out!
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Hawk Sista » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:36 pm

Who knows what happened. I don't like it though. Here's hoping she wasn't religious enough for him or SHE cheated. This worries me. Talk me off the edge, boys.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Anthony » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:55 pm

Stream Hawk wrote:My comment - I was weirdly afraid of this. I am worried his success has gone to his head. Damn, right before the freaking schedule comes out!



How you got that success wen to his head from that small thing is beyond me. Why not wait and see what comes out factually that is right, For all you know it was her, or it was neither they just decided they were not the right match. May
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Hawktawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:56 pm

I alluded to this in a thread back when RW went to spring training, wondering if he was spending enough time with his wife between all the mandatory football stuff and all the elective appearances. Even during the hoopla before during and after the SB she just didn't look happy at all. It takes a special kind of relationship to survive going from relative anonymity to super stardom and life in a fishbowl. 60% of Americans if not more have been divorced. Maybe its sad but if behind closed doors they were just not happy then its actually a good thing in the long run. If the handwriting was on the wall then its a smart economic move by RW as harsh as that is to say.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Steady_Hawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:59 pm

It's quite possible she couldn't handle Russell's dedication to football. Like others have said, we need to know more but I'm quite surprised by this as well. At least they did not have any kids yet. Just looking for some positives here.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Futureite » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:20 pm

Like I was saying, you don't really know these guys. And if you buy into all the interviews and quotes, you're bound to be disappointed.

My guess would be that he spent too much time working and not enough time with his wife. But then again, I used thw Tiger Woods analogy more than once as an example of why you don't elevate the "suoperior" character of one man you'll never know above another.

So I guess, maybe that punk Kaeppernick was smart to stay single? Maybe if he was a little more mature he'd have married - and then divorced. Sorry, lol I had to go there after all the "above reproach" backlash we've received.

In all honesty RW getting divorced matters little to me and reflects zero on his character. Things happen in life. I hope that he gets through it ok and that he made the right choice.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby yoder » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:38 pm

Steady_Hawk wrote:It's quite possible she couldn't handle Russell's dedication to football. Like others have said, we need to know more but I'm quite surprised by this as well. At least they did not have any kids yet. Just looking for some positives here.


I thought they were High School sweethearts? Therefore she would have known about his dedication to football/baseball/church/etc... This was pretty shocking to me, they seemed to be pretty solid - though you never know what goes on behind closed doors. I'm sad to see them come to this point, emotional turmoil for both...but maybe it's for the best.

Not to sound callous or disrespectful, but do you think this will impact his game next season? Football is 90% mental, right?
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby kalibane » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:43 pm

I don't know why this would worry anyone in the slightest. They met in High School. I know one person in my entire 1000 person High School class that married and is still with that High School boyfriend/girlfriend. And yeah that's beautiful and all but you know what? Even that one person (I say one because her boyfriend was a year ahead of us and while I knew him he wasn't really "my" friend) I could have slept with at any time during my senior year in high school/freshman year in college. It never happened because I didn't think it would have been "cool" for me to do that even though we had crazy chemistry.

I don't think that means she loved him any less. I don't think she would have left him for me. And I don't think it would have stopped them from getting married. But I say this because life is NOT a fairy tale. And even the one person out of a thousand who had the appearance of a fairy tale relationship/marriage isn't even close to that.

Highschool relationships are for figuring out how to behave in relationships. And after you graduate you should be figuring out who you are not tying yourself down with a remnant from your past. They almost never last, and in most cases they shouldn't last because when they draw out to long most of them just stunt your emotional growth. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. It doesn't reflect poorly on his character. And it was probably the mature decision to make instead of stringing it out for the sake of preserving an image. The only thing that would suck about this is if they had children, but they don't so...

Nothing to see here... move along.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby HumanCockroach » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:47 pm

He's getting divorced, welcome to life folks, over 60% of all marriages end in divorce. Odds are she didn't like how often he was away, but there are literally THOUSANDS of GOOD reasons to end a marriage. EVERYONE makes mistakes INCLUDING Russell Wilson. Maybe he wanted kids now, and he didn't, maybe she was upset with how short her honeymoon was, followed by how often he was away, maybe she was lonely, maybe he cheated, maybe his plans for the future werfundamentally different, maybe, maybe,maybe......

Not in the least concerned with him buying his own hype, or getting to big of a head, or not being able to focus on his job, or what he needs to do. Hell, for all we know she was attempting to tell him to quit football because of CTE. We simply don't know, and quite honestly, we have NO right to know, that is HIS personal business, barring some sort of criminal activity there is simply no reason for us to ever know...
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Zorn76 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:58 pm

2 year marriage, but high school sweethearts.

It didn't last, but this is very typical for over half the married couples in this country.

And, yes, if RW is gonna do it, do it now before he has to cough up millions of dollars for doing what he was going to do anyway.

The kid is gonna be fine. This is where his faith will pay off as well.

And I doubt very much this is because he turned into some kind of Tiger Woods dirt bag.

EDIT: This type of thing typically doesn't happen overnight, and I expect Wilson to actually Thrive even more, now that he won't have marital problems hanging over his head this season.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby BelizeHawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:19 pm

Sad.
On the positive side. They are young and no children.
I can honestly say I wouldn't trade my happily married life for a SB ring and a multi-million dollar contract. (and I am not saying that he did)
In that I guess I can say I'm one up on RW.
If life were a contest... which it is not.
My prayers are with them, marriage is freaking hard. Unless their is underlying issues this is not a red mark on his life resume at all.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby kalibane » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:25 pm

on thing I will say though in response to Zorn. Divorce is a massive distraction for anyone. I think Russ can manage it given what we know about him, but I wouldn't necessarily count it as a positive towards his development... at least this year. Once it's finalized you're probably right but who knows how ugly and time consuming it will get between now and when the decree is entered.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Hawktawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:32 pm

[quote="kalibane"]on thing I will say though in response to Zorn. Divorce is a massive distraction for anyone. I think Russ can manage it given what we know about him, but I wouldn't necessarily count it as a positive towards his development... at least this year. Once it's finalized you're probably right but who knows how ugly and time consuming it will get between now and when the decree is entered.[/quote
Ya exactly been there done that. Who knows what kind of money grubbing lawyers will swoop seeking future spousal support based on half his new contract, or dirt being leaked to the media, etc. No way is divorce a short term positive in or out of the work place.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby c_hawkbob » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:38 pm

Sorry to see it.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Eaglehawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:07 pm

Maybe, he was dedicated to football, and wife got jealous.
He will definitely grow from this. Wife never looked happy though. I noticed that on many occasions. Why? What was wrong? What did he do? What did she want?

All I can think was that she wanted the old RW back, and thought that during the off season she might get him, but it never happened.

Something tells me he cheated or came damn close to it. Sorry to say, there are many vultures out there who would love to pounce on RW, and when you are exposed to fame as quickly as he was, its a true concern. Maybe flirting got carried away, and mistake occurred. As a married man or two told me about this phenomenon through the years when I was single: just don't get caught.

Obviously folks, I hope I am very wrong, and yes its just speculation at this point, since the only persons that really know are those two.
I am sure in the coming days we will find out more, through the gossip mill.

They are devout Christians, the only way you get a biblical divorce is through infidelity. Ergo, one of them cheated, purely statistical odds are that it was him. (IMO)
Shocked and saddened by this story nonetheless.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby BelizeHawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:13 pm

They are not Catholic. Their divorce does not necessarily have to involve infidelity, protestants cane get divorced for any reason.
It is also possible that RW is not the one who cheated, if any cheating occurred, it could have been Ashton. RW is the one who is filing.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby FolkCrusader » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:14 pm

I feel very bad for them both. A failed marriage can be very painful. I hope the both come through it ok.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby curmudgeon » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:27 pm

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!! 4-12 in 2014.......
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Zorn76 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:29 pm

Kal et al:)

I get what you're saying, but it sounds as if this marriage was in trouble for awhile. I mean, divorce typically doesn't happen overnight, like I mentioned earlier, and I can't see RW rushing into such a decision.

So while nobody knows for sure, the hunch here is that this was something that had been on his mind going back to last season. I think you can at least make a good case that it was likely on his mind during the playoffs, seeing how they occurred just a couple months ago. It makes less sense that he went from a happy marriage to a poor one since the season ended, IMO, given that only a couple of months have passed since we won the SB.

I don't mean to be insensitive here about his personal life, either. When exactly it started is anybody's guess. Either way, just seems it's likely he knew where he was going with this while playing football. So in that regard, I think he will be able to move on from it rather quickly, especially when you consider he's the one who filed for divorce in the first place.

Still a tough place to be, I agree, but would've been much worse if he had been blindsided by his wife serving hm the papers.

I wish Russell Wilson well, and I think he'll gain strength from his faith, family, and the work he has in front of him to prepare for 2014.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Eaglehawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:25 pm

BelizeHawk wrote:They are not Catholic. Their divorce does not necessarily have to involve infidelity, protestants cane get divorced for any reason.

It is also possible that RW is not the one who cheated, if any cheating occurred, it could have been Ashton. RW is the one who is filing.



I said they were Christian not necessarily Catholic or Protestant. The Wilson's were non denomination. So not P or C.

But you do have a point with RW filing. Maybe its just an unhappy marriage.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby RiverDog » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:43 pm

Some of you folks are reading too much into this and engaging in too much speculation (gossip). It's an interesting tidbit, nothing more, and the only thing it proves is that he's human.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Stream Hawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:22 pm

At first this news annoyed me, so my comment about "going to his head" was out of line.

Russell is the man; his marriage is/was his business. Go Hawks
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby NorthHawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:25 pm

Gotta agree with Stream Hawk. It's nobody's business but his own.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Hawktawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:28 pm

It proves THEY are human. Christianity is no buffer from divorce, rates in and out of the church are similar. I wish them both well and thank goodness there are no children to be hurt by this divorce, just the 2 young adults in it. It looks like RW saw the handwriting on the wall and pulled the plug now to minimize the distractions in training camp and the season. Its the mark of a workaholic, most of the great ones in sports or any business endeavor are, and their wives have to be able to handle it. I don't think she could make the transition. All their public appearances at hospitals etc didn't leave a lot of time for infidelity but who knows.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Steady_Hawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:41 pm

Eagle,

Hope all is well. I thought the same as soon as I heard, but he's the one filing for divorce. I would assume if there was a mistake made in the fidelity department it points more towards Ashton than Russell. Either way, I really didn't see this coming. I know Russell is human, but he almost wasn't. It's what makes him so unique.

I hope he didn't step out on her, I know that temptation must be crazy hard to deal with considering all the insane publicity the guy is getting. I hated seeing that pic with Wilson and Beyonce. I just don't want to see the guy get caught up with the wrong people.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Eaglehawk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:58 pm

Steady_Hawk wrote:Eagle,

Hope all is well. I thought the same as soon as I heard, but he's the one filing for divorce. I would assume if there was a mistake made in the fidelity department it points more towards Ashton than Russell. Either way, I really didn't see this coming. I know Russell is human, but he almost wasn't. It's what makes him so unique.

I hope he didn't step out on her, I know that temptation must be crazy hard to deal with considering all the insane publicity the guy is getting. I hated seeing that pic with Wilson and Beyonce. I just don't want to see the guy get caught up with the wrong people.


Steady,

Yeah man, I agree. This news hit me like a body blow. Still in shock. I was hoping that this kid was the exception to the rule and that he would be with his wife forever. Seriously. I only found my true love recently. I was divorced in my 20's and stayed single for many many years. Funny thing, I filed and infidelity was not the reason for the divorce, we just didn't get along.

I thought he may have cheated when I heard the D word come out. But when posters reminded me that it was he that filed first, then that points to either her stepping out, or a situation that happened in my case when I was in my twenties: I got tired of the nagging and arguments, we didn't get along. Just speculation by me of course.

Never saw that pic with RW and Beyonce, I think I purposefully did not want to see it at the time.
The guy is so special, so special. I wish him and his ex the best. I hope he continues to make good choices about his friends and his habits.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Hawk Sista » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:31 am

My initial reaction was 1) premature 2) none of my business & 3) filled w/ assumption. My apologies. As I said in another thread, my 20s were more like CK7s than Wilson's...less the $$ and fame, so I'm really not in a position to judge.

I guess I worried because of RW's #notimeforsleep, Beyoncé, all the basketball games & star-studded events he's been to. I know how I would have handled $$ & fame then & I have been so pleased that RW has been laser like focussed on the game. I really don't want him tangled up w/ a kardashian or the like. With his fame, it'd be easy to do.

But alas, we don't know what the cause was, and it's not my business. All I can say for sure is what (& who) I needed as a 23 year old girl is NOT what made me happy in my 30s and after. My niece is 23 and getting g married... I like the guy, just wish they'd wait. That too is not my business.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Eaglehawk » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:14 am

Hawk Sista wrote:My initial reaction was 1) premature 2) none of my business & 3) filled w/ assumption. My apologies. As I said in another thread, my 20s were more like CK7s than Wilson's...less the $$ and fame, so I'm really not in a position to judge.

I guess I worried because of RW's #notimeforsleep, Beyoncé, all the basketball games & star-studded events he's been to. I know how I would have handled $$ & fame then & I have been so pleased that RW has been laser like focussed on the game. I really don't want him tangled up w/ a kardashian or the like. With his fame, it'd be easy to do.

But alas, we don't know what the cause was, and it's not my business. All I can say for sure is what (& who) I needed as a 23 year old girl is NOT what made me happy in my 30s and after. My niece is 23 and getting g married... I like the guy, just wish they'd wait. That too is not my business.

Try living here for a couple of years. You have to get married here in your twenties pretty much. I have a friend of mine in his late twenties and his parents are bugging him so much to get married he has mentioned suicide to me! That is even though his other two siblings one younger and one older than him are married already! So its not like the parents have no one to take care of them. (Their thinking anyway).

When I tell people here that most gals in America(except your niece and others)wait until at least 30 before getting married, the people here just flip out.

And what is good in Shanghai is not good in Fuzhou, a smaller city or Hefei. Welcome to China.

You could argue Sista that RW was "too young" to get married in the first place. I know for me in my twenties, it would have been impossible for me to hold down the fort if you know what I mean. No way. So I admired him in that respect, he was a better man than me for damn sure.

But alas, our football leaders are also human!
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Hawk Sista » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:50 am

right. he is human. I wanted him to continue his robotic-like ways and carry us to another championship. I hope he doesn't start dating Lindsey Vonn. If he does, we will ann be worried then.. :o :o :shock: :shock:
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Steady_Hawk » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:39 am

Didn't she date Woods? If so, Wilson could end up with a season ending case of Crabs with Gonorrhea mixed in with a touch of Level 5 Super Herpes.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Eaglehawk » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:45 pm

Hawk Sista wrote:right. he is human. I wanted him to continue his robotic-like ways and carry us to another championship. I hope he doesn't start dating Lindsey Vonn. If he does, we will ann be worried then.. :o :o :shock: :shock:


No kidding Sista! Not a good move. Especially as Steady said, for his health! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Hawk Sista » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:34 pm

I'm picturing RW scratching in the huddle away and LMAO. With sincerity...break ups/divorce are horrible - I hope they are both ok & getting the help they need.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:47 am

They haven't split the sheets yet. A lot of times, even after filing for divorce, couples decide at the last minute not to go through with it and to give it another shot. Sometimes one of the parties is simply bluffing and has no intention of going through with it and uses the filing for divorce to get the other's attention.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby EntiatHawk » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:23 am

These things can goes so many ways it hard to know. Some people fall apart, some become even more focused and take all that energy and put into what their passion is. Why do you think many great pieces of art come out of heartbreak and/or pain. RW seems more like the latter type but who really knows.

I had mentioned to my wife that I thought Aston was not enjoying the process like Russell was. After the SB she did not look happy. But who knows what's going on at that very moment. The lifestyle of those in the limelight is not something that many can handle. Add to that they met very young in my book and that is almost a recipe for disaster in of itself.

Also it is human nature when you have options your tolerance and willingness to hang in there is most likely less. I think they were young and in the long run it maybe the best for both of them.
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Re: Holy smokes- Russell and Ashton are getting divorced

Postby Eaglehawk » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:49 am

EntiatHawk wrote:These things can goes so many ways it hard to know. Some people fall apart, some become even more focused and take all that energy and put into what their passion is. Why do you think many great pieces of art come out of heartbreak and/or pain. RW seems more like the latter type but who really knows.

I had mentioned to my wife that I thought Aston was not enjoying the process like Russell was. After the SB she did not look happy. But who knows what's going on at that very moment. The lifestyle of those in the limelight is not something that many can handle. Add to that they met very young in my book and that is almost a recipe for disaster in of itself.

Also it is human nature when you have options your tolerance and willingness to hang in there is most likely less. I think they were young and in the long run it maybe the best for both of them.


Well put my friend. I thought that I was the only that noticed Aston not smiling or not happy when Wilson was jovial and happy. I thought that was very strange.
They were definitely not on the same page, and the reasons you stated make 100 percent sense.
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