Aseahawkfan wrote:How did your property tax increase so much?
No wonder eggs are so expensive now.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Great. Typical government-corporate bill that appeases the PETA people in name only while the egg industry charges us more while making barely noticeable changes to their process.
We as a people really have lost control of our government at this point.
RiverDog wrote:If you have an ethical objection to using eggs that come from a chicken that didn't have the ability to take a dust bath, then fine. You can pay the extra couple of bucks and buy cage free eggs. But don't foist your sense of morality on me.
My question is what's next? Farm raised shrimp? Feed lots? Slaughterhouses? Unless you're a vegetarian, there's scores of areas where they can claim that the food industry has 'unethical' practices.
For a long time, I've wondered why so many people are voting for Trump, why they can't see the same things in him as I do. It's crap like this. The Democrats are so out of touch with reality that they don't give people a viable alternative.
Aseahawkfan wrote:On a side note, I'm surprised you haven't gloated a bit as it looks like Trump is going to the Republican candidate. Seems all the old guard Republicans are gone or have aged out of power. I always felt the Bush Sr./Reagan arm of the Republican Party would nuke Trump after January 6th, but it seems they have lost that ability to control the party. Not sure who runs it now since the remaining Koch brother is backing Haley I believe and I'm not sure who backs Trump since a lot of his big supporters have stepped away.
Not sure he can win as both Biden and Trump look terrible and have tons of terrible material to use against each. Going to be a real battle to the bottom with Biden vs. Trump 2. A definite who do you hate the least and does anyone want to cast a vote for either of these geriatrics.
This country looks nothing like the one I grew up in with the positive energy and seemingly more sensible people running the nation. Even people who disagreed with Reagan and Bush Sr. likely at least felt that both loved this country and would govern in a sensible manner. Now you can't rely on any kind of sensible government or even manners from Trump.
Did you hear his statement concerning NATO nations? America spends all this money, energy, and blood to maintain world peace and Trump's going to just let a NATO nation get invaded because they aren't paying their 2%, basically blackmailing other nations regardless of their ability to pay for America to protect them. The so called leaders of the free world may well elect a president who wants to leave other nations to be invaded starting a new age of war where America has ceded their military position in the world as the protector of Democracy and Freedom. Never thought I would see that day.
RiverDog wrote:I don't disagree with any of that. But my concerns are more local, like the carbon tax, the breaching of the LSRD's, unwanted windfarms with windmills taller than the Space Needle. The west side Democrats don't give a rip about us out here in Eastern Washington. They're copying everything California has done. The only reason we're not in as bad of shape as CA is because we don't have a state income tax. California's class warfare is driving rich people and their tax money out of the state while they do stupid crap like giving illegals state sponsored health care.
The next cycle, I'm voting for the R no matter who it is, even if he's a moonbat Trump brown noser like our last R candidate, Loren Culp. I've voted for Dem govs on a number of occasions, ie Booth Gardner, Gary Locke, and Inslee in the last cycle. No more. If I had a viable choice, I'd move out of the state.
curmudgeon wrote:Bidenomics IS working!……
c_hawkbob wrote:Yeah, much better to live in a red state where the life expectancy is shorter, poverty rates are higher, more people are on welfare, education sucks, and gun violence is higher. Besides that we got little bitty roads, great big ditches and no shoulders, nobody has fenced yards and dogs roam the streets in packs.
On the plus side the people are nice and the food is better.
But having lived in both worlds all I can say is the grass really ain't greener, no matter what you think or how you vote.
RiverDog wrote:Yeah, and the blue states, particularly New York, California, Oregon, and Washington, have a much higher rate of drug abuse and homelessness than red states. IMO that's more of a humanitarian problem than little bitty roads or dogs roaming the streets (as if they don't here). A poor person can't afford to live in a blue state. In California, the cost of living is so outrageous that people are moving out in droves, particularly the wealthy of which the state is so dependent on for their tax revenue. Retailers have had enough and are moving out of the large cities. Yet they continue to be ignorant of the problem and keep passing these ridiculous inflationary laws that makes matters worse.
Here's an article you might want to check out: A new study (dated Nov. 2023) from Forbes ranks Washington state as the most impacted by retail crime in the nation. The survey also ranked Washington third worst in the total value of items stolen, with an average loss of $347 per person.
https://mynorthwest.com/3939740/study-r ... r%20person.
Guess which party it was that defunded the police? So yeah, I'll argue with you about whose stepsister is uglier.
Another example is our property tax. I just got my property tax bill for 2024. My property tax increased by a whopping 90% from what it was in 2023. Most of that is due to an increase in the assessed value, going up about 74%, but I have made no major improvements to our property that would justify such a large increase. I'm not complaining as I can afford it, but what about the poor slob with a family of 4 living paycheck to paycheck? And suppose you own rental properties. How are you going to make up for that kind of increase? All that's going to do is encourage landlords to raise rents and/or get out of the rental business, putting even more pressure on an already stressed market. What is that going to do to our homeless situation?
My biggest problem is the attitude of our lawmakers. They claim to be so sensitive and caring about the homeless, the poor, and middle class, yet they keep passing legislation that they know is going to make life more difficult for them. Do red state politicians have any better solutions? Probably not, but I wouldn't know as we haven't had an R governor for 40 years, nor do I have any solutions. All I know is if you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is to quit digging.
BTW, if any of you want to take a look at my property tax statement, I saved it to a PDF and wouldn't mind sharing it in a PM.
RiverDog wrote:Yeah, and the blue states, particularly New York, California, Oregon, and Washington, have a much higher rate of drug abuse and homelessness than red states. IMO that's more of a humanitarian problem than little bitty roads or dogs roaming the streets (as if they don't here). A poor person can't afford to live in a blue state. In California, the cost of living is so outrageous that people are moving out in droves, particularly the wealthy of which the state is so dependent on for their tax revenue. Retailers have had enough and are moving out of the large cities. Yet they continue to be ignorant of the problem and keep passing these ridiculous inflationary laws that makes matters worse.
Here's an article you might want to check out: A new study (dated Nov. 2023) from Forbes ranks Washington state as the most impacted by retail crime in the nation. The survey also ranked Washington third worst in the total value of items stolen, with an average loss of $347 per person.
https://mynorthwest.com/3939740/study-r ... r%20person.
Guess which party it was that defunded the police? So yeah, I'll argue with you about whose stepsister is uglier.
Another example is our property tax. I just got my property tax bill for 2024. My property tax increased by a whopping 90% from what it was in 2023. Most of that is due to an increase in the assessed value, going up about 74%, but I have made no major improvements to our property that would justify such a large increase. I'm not complaining as I can afford it, but what about the poor slob with a family of 4 living paycheck to paycheck? And suppose you own rental properties. How are you going to make up for that kind of increase? All that's going to do is encourage landlords to raise rents and/or get out of the rental business, putting even more pressure on an already stressed market. What is that going to do to our homeless situation?
My biggest problem is the attitude of our lawmakers. They claim to be so sensitive and caring about the homeless, the poor, and middle class, yet they keep passing legislation that they know is going to make life more difficult for them. Do red state politicians have any better solutions? Probably not, but I wouldn't know as we haven't had an R governor for 40 years, nor do I have any solutions. All I know is if you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is to quit digging.
BTW, if any of you want to take a look at my property tax statement, I saved it to a PDF and wouldn't mind sharing it in a PM.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Shouldn't you be getting an age reduction for your property tax? Is that still on there? My mother gets an age exemption on her property tax that reduces the value for the taxable amount.
Also need to know how often they assess property values in your area. This is obviously a reassessment of value by the locality that caused your property tax to be calculated based on the newly assessed value.
You don't know of any recent assessments in your area that caused an increase in property tax or any law changes? They aren't building some new park or doing some roadwork change? Though roadwork they usually add to your tabs.
Not sure what the rate is in your area. I would definitely look up any property tax reductions for age in your area that would reduce the taxable value. I would check closely the assessed value to see how much it increased and when the last value assessment occurred.
RiverDog wrote:Thanks for the heads up on the senior reduction, but my income is too high. I've been transferring funds from my traditional IRA to my Roth and paying the tax on them rather than deferring them, so the earnings don't get taxed. I have to declare the amount I transfer as income.
Assessments are required by law to be done at least once every 6 years. I'm not sure when the last time my property was assessed. There's been some new housing developments that have gone up in our area, but no major roadwork, public parks, schools, or any other kind of infrastructure improvements. My next-door neighbor's property tax increased by 57%. A friend of mine in Franklin County saw just a 4% increase.
But as I said, I'm not that concerned with my personal predicament. Our house is paid off, we're empty nesters, and my wife is very low maintenance. I haven't even started taking my SS yet. My point is that the tax is allowed to increase that much in one year. And if I'm not the only one whose seeing such a large increase, what the heck is the government doing with all this extra revenue? Are they using it to retire bonds and lower the tax burden? Are they re-distributing it to low-income areas? Is it going into some sort of emergency fund? Or are they using it for their pet peeve projects? It's the same question I have about this carbon tax we've been paying: What the hell is the government doing with all this extra revenue?
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