PFF Player Rankings

[River Dog]

I just subscribed to PFF as it offers one of the better football analyses in the business. They're obviously not the Holy grail, but they are the gold standard for this type of service. Here's the latest rankings of our guys along with the top ranked player by position:

Offense

QB's (33 ranked): Geno Smith, #4. Top rank: Kyler Murray, Cards.
WR (102 ranked): Tyler Lockett #18, JSN #28, DK Metcalf #48. Top Ranked: Chris Godwin, Bucs
HB (48 ranked): Kenneth Walker, #9, Zach C #45. Top Ranked: James Cook, Bills
TE (62 ranked): AJ Barner, #48, Noah Fant #52. Top Ranked: Isiah Likely, Ravens
C (33 ranked): Conner Williams, #15, Top Ranked: Eric McCoy, Saints.
G (65 ranked): Laken Tomlinson, #36, Anthony Bradford #54. Top Ranked: Lucas Patrick, Saints.
T (68 ranked): Charles Cross, #1, Stone Forsythe, #52. Top Ranked: Charles Cross, Hawks

Defense

CB (96 ranked): Tariq Woolen, #1, Devon Witherspoon, #11, Tre Brown, #44. Top Ranked: Tariq Woolen, Hawks
S (76 ranked): Julian Love, #2, Rayshawn Jenkins, #6. Top Ranked: Elijah Molden, LAC
LB (71 ranked): Jerome Baker, #32, Tyrel Dodson, #36. Top Ranked: Fred Warner, Niners.
DT (111 ranked): Leonard Williams, #4, Jarron Reed, #39, Byron Murphy, #49, Jonathan Hankins #92. Top Ranked: Dexter Lawrence, NYG
Edge (102 ranked): Boye Mafe, #14. Derrick Hall #28, Dre Mont Jones, #55. Top Ranked: Adian Hutchinson, Lions.

I included the number of players ranked as we have to keep the individual rankings in perspective. Conner Williams' #15 ranking, while not bad, isn't nearly as good as Devon Witherspoon's #11 ranking at cornerback. There are only 32 starting centers while there's 64 starting cornerbacks, meaning that the midpoint for center is #16 while midpoint for cornerback is #64.

A lot of this meets the eye test. Any of us who have watched the Lions don't need a PFF ranking to understand what kind of season Adian Hutchinson is having. It also makes sense that the Saints have the top ranked center and guard. They also have the #3 ranked rushing offense.

The highlights on defense for us include Tariq Woolen a huge improvement over last season when he was benched for a period of time. Witherspoon's #11 ranking is no surprise as he was ranked in or near the top 10 all last season. And there's a huge improvement in our safety play, with Love and Jenkkins being ranked in the top 6, quite a change from what we saw with last season's safety pair of Adams and Diggs. We've given up very few big plays so far this season, and that's reflected in their rankings. Boye Mafe and Derrick Hall have made big strides (at least according to the rankings) so far under Mac. Disappointments might include Byron Murphy.

On offense, obviously Geno's had a solid first two games, but the real surprise is Charles Cross. We've seen a big improvement in our center's ranking as we're used to seeing them ranked somewhere in the high 20's or 30's. Lockett's ranked about the same as last season, but Metcalf has slipped in these first two games. Tight end, guard, and right tackle look to be weak spots.

Overall, it's a very good report card for our first two games. But then again, it's only two games and our competition can't be considered first rate.

[Aseahawkfan]

I'm surprised the Saints are as strong as they seem. I can't see that sustaining.

[River Dog]

I'm surprised the Saints are as strong as they seem. I can't see that sustaining.

They just got through b**** slapping the Cowboys, who were 12-5 last year, so they might be for real. We'll find out this weekend as they play the Eagles. If they beat the Eagles like they did Dallas, we'll have to admit that they're pretty good.

[Aseahawkfan]

They just got through b**** slapping the Cowboys, who were 12-5 last year, so they might be for real. We'll find out this weekend as they play the Eagles. If they beat the Eagles like they did Dallas, we'll have to admit that they're pretty good.

The Eagles do not look so great right now.

[River Dog]

One of the more interesting things in the rankings is the top 10 quarterbacks. Some look to be way out of whack, and it will be interesting to see how they change throughout the season. Here's the top 10 ranked QB's after Week 2:

1. Kyler Murray, Cards
2. Derrick Carr, Saints
3. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
4. Geno Smith, Hawks
5. Sam Darnold, Vikings
6. Josh Allen, Bills
7. Brock Purdy, Niners
8. Justin Fields, Steelers
9. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
10. CJ Stroud, Texans

My guess is that Week 3's rankings will find Rodgers replacing Murray as the top ranked QB as he had a nearly perfect outing Thursday against the Pats, finishing the game with a 118.9 passer rating and the Jets winning in a rout.

There's another good example of the rankings meeting the eye test as Bryce Young is ranked 33rd out of 33 QB's that got enough snaps to be ranked. No wonder he got benched.

BTW, if any of you have a specific question about a rating or ranking, don't hesitate to ask by replying to the thread.

[4XPIPS]

Speaking of rankings. i wonder what Philip Haynes PFF rankings were last year when he was the starter. I know he had a toe injury and missed half the season, but I don't remember him being as bad as Anthony Bradford, and he is still available as a free agent at this moment. Anything would an upgrade for Anthony Bradford, as he is a penalty machine.

[River Dog]

Speaking of rankings. i wonder what Philip Haynes PFF rankings were last year when he was the starter. I know he had a toe injury and missed half the season, but I don't remember him being as bad as Anthony Bradford, and he is still available as a free agent at this moment. Anything would an upgrade for Anthony Bradford, as he is a penalty machine.

I don't think I can view past seasons' rankings, but I'll keep trying. If I can figure out how to navigate within the PFF website, I'll look up Haynes' 2023 ranking and post it here.