Trevor Lawrence to the Hawks Next Season?

[4XPIPS]

I listen to various NFL podcast, and I was listening to a discussion about Trevor Lawrence's future as a Jags QB. One of the insiders stated that he has spoke to a lot of people with in the Jags organization and say he is an excellent team mate, and team leader and wants his team to exceed. However, a few people close to him on a personal level have expressed they feel Trevor is wasting his time with Jags organization, and feel if he were in an organization that was built for his playing style he would be a top 5 QB in the league. He then mentioned that Trevor would excel with a team like the Seahawks. Here is why.

1) The Seahawks have not had a great running game in years, and that's ok because Trevor would have an immediate impact in the running game. Using him as a threat to run the ball would open up the passing game, and would make defense's adjust their style against the Hawks offense. Sort of like how they use Josh Allen with the Bills.

2) He would be able to use his 6'6 frame and stand tall in the pocket and have weapons like DK and JSN to work with, and has the arm talent to fire the ball with a quick release downfield and not have to step into his throws like most other QBs in the league.

However, the biggest challenge is taking on someone like Trevor, would be his contract. He has some major dead money up to 2030. Since Geno is costing the Hawks literally almost half of this, they most likely would try to extend Geno a couple more years and keep his contract relatively where it is at, and not be on the hook for so much cash. However, given the opportunity there is the possibility the Hawks could snag a QB in Trevor who has the potential to be an elite QB in the league if the Hawks were looking to take a chance on him.

Personally I haven't watched a lot of Trevor Lawrence in the NFL, but I do know he is a threat to run the ball. I am not sure I would want my $50+ mil per year QB running the ball as he just went on IR, from a vicious hit he took, when he should have been protected. I do remember those Clemson days, and he was surrounded with serious talent and he shined. I don't know, maybe with someone like JSN and DK, and a solid defense he would do well in Seattle. Considering where the Hawks are potentially drafting next year, I am not sure if there is a QB in the draft that would be available for the Hawks to grab and build around. It's an interesting dynamic, but given the Hawk's history there has never been a time we made a splash trade for the QB position. However, this is a new era so who knows.

Also I would like to add if you search Trevor Lawrence to the Seahawks, there are other sites talking about this, of course this just all rumors at this point.

[Oly]

You just have to wonder if the Jags wrecked him for good. I don't know how the Jags could actually trade him, though, because the dead money cap hit would be astronomical. But his base salary is super manageable through 2028 and he has more promise than Howell. And if he doesn't suck, we could move on from Geno and use the extra cap space to build around Lawrence.

Caveat: I know s*** about how the NFL cap works, so maybe I'm totally off here.

Edit: As this forum always auto-censored curse words? I certainly didn't type asterisks above...

[River Dog]

I've also heard that the Panthers might want to move away from Bryce Young.

The results of a young quarterback going to a 2nd team have been mixed at best, so at this point, I'd be content to extend Geno another year or two and wait until we have an opportunity to draft our QBOTF. Right now, the priority has to be rebuilding the offensive line.

[Aseahawkfan]

I don't want to trade away draft capital to pull a QB over here who is not thriving on a bad jaguar team while our O-line is getting our QBs killed. Lawrence needs a good O-line. Without it, he'll just get wrecked.

[4XPIPS]

I've also heard that the Panthers might want to move away from Bryce Young.

The results of a young quarterback going to a 2nd team have been mixed at best, so at this point, I'd be content to extend Geno another year or two and wait until we have an opportunity to draft our QBOTF. Right now, the priority has to be rebuilding the offensive line.

My only issue is that if there is a can't miss QB prospect coming up the college ranks, and we continue to have seasons where we are 9 to 11 win type seasons next two years with Geno, then we aren't going to pick high enough to draft a QB, and the only way is to trade up or trade for a QB in the draft, or trade for a young cast off.

The logistics of his contract will certainly make it near impossible for the Hawks to take that risk, however I think it was more of a conversation of if Trevor were with Hawks, it would be a perfect fit for him. I just don't know because he hasn't been great at the NFL level, but he certainly has not been horrific like Bryce Young, Daniel Jones, Mac Jones, Will Levis. Those young QBs have severely under performed.

[4XPIPS]

I don't want to trade away draft capital to pull a QB over here who is not thriving on a bad jaguar team while our O-line is getting our QBs killed. Lawrence needs a good O-line. Without it, he'll just get wrecked.

A trade for Trevor would not be a high draft pick, because they are on the hook for so much of his contract, and any trade partner willing to eat that contract would be a win for the Jags, so I can see a low 3rd or high 4th for him and someone take on his massive contract. He is the 2nd highest paid QB in NFL history at $55 mil per year, he started the year off as tied for 1st as the highest paid QB in history, but than Dak took that at $60 mil per year. We are probably 4 to 5 years away from the $100 mil per year for a QB

[Aseahawkfan]

A trade for Trevor would not be a high draft pick, because they are on the hook for so much of his contract, and any trade partner willing to eat that contract would be a win for the Jags, so I can see a low 3rd or high 4th for him and someone take on his massive contract. He is the 2nd highest paid QB in NFL history at $55 mil per year, he started the year off as tied for 1st as the highest paid QB in history, but than Dak took that at $60 mil per year. We are probably 4 to 5 years away from the $100 mil per year for a QB

I don't think we can handle that cap hit.

[River Dog]

I don't want to trade away draft capital to pull a QB over here who is not thriving on a bad jaguar team while our O-line is getting our QBs killed. Lawrence needs a good O-line. Without it, he'll just get wrecked.

A trade for Trevor would not be a high draft pick, because they are on the hook for so much of his contract, and any trade partner willing to eat that contract would be a win for the Jags, so I can see a low 3rd or high 4th for him and someone take on his massive contract. He is the 2nd highest paid QB in NFL history at $55 mil per year, he started the year off as tied for 1st as the highest paid QB in history, but than Dak took that at $60 mil per year. We are probably 4 to 5 years away from the $100 mil per year for a QB

A third or 4th round pick, maybe. But I don't want a deal like what Cleveland did to bring in DeShawn Watson or the Jets made to bring in Aaron Rodgers. There just aren't that many quarterbacks that equal or exceed their performance on their previous team.

And as was previously mentioned by several of us, our first priority has to be reconstructing our offensive line. There're not very many quarterbacks who are going to succeed behind an offensive line ranked 31st.

[4XPIPS]

And as was previously mentioned by several of us, our first priority has to be reconstructing our offensive line. There're not very many quarterbacks who are going to succeed behind an offensive line ranked 31st.

I think management can focus on more than one area at at time. I certainly agree offensive line is a priority, but I would like to see some sort of movement at the QB position. I guess it depends how the seasons ends. I don't mind having Geno as our starter, but would need to have someone that can be groomed to be our future QB starter. I am not convinced Sam is it, but again it's a small sample size. If the Hawk's make a splash move and trade for someone like Trevor, than it would most certainly mean Geno is gone and we wouldn't be drafting a QB in the near future. Again, it just pundits talking but it sounds intriguing.

I guess we got spoiled with Prime Russ who made up for a crappy O Line and could make plays on his feet.

[River Dog]

And as was previously mentioned by several of us, our first priority has to be reconstructing our offensive line. There're not very many quarterbacks who are going to succeed behind an offensive line ranked 31st.

I think management can focus on more than one area at at time. I certainly agree offensive line is a priority, but I would like to see some sort of movement at the QB position. I guess it depends how the seasons ends. I don't mind having Geno as our starter, but would need to have someone that can be groomed to be our future QB starter. I am not convinced Sam is it, but again it's a small sample size. If the Hawk's make a splash move and trade for someone like Trevor, than it would most certainly mean Geno is gone and we wouldn't be drafting a QB in the near future. Again, it just pundits talking but it sounds intriguing.

I guess we got spoiled with Prime Russ who made up for a crappy O Line and could make plays on his feet.

Good rookie quarterbacks with QBOTF potential are going to be expensive, especially in light of the fact that we're not likely to have a draft pick in the top 10 of next year's draft. If we decide to trade up to get one, we're going to have to sacrifice something else, and that likely means that we won't be able to address the OL. Multi-tasking is going to be very difficult.

[NorthHawk]

We will probably end up in the 18-20 range in the Draft order.
If we do select a QB I would hope the plan is to sit him for a year to acclimate to the NFL and learn how to be a Pro. It's a lot different from College and many don't adjust quickly regardless of how talented they are.
Unless lightning strikes again, I would think the best we can hope for is a player like Kirk Cousins who is (was) a good QB but probably isn't going to take us to the championship without a superior supporting cast.

Edit:

Here's a link to spotrac and Trevor Lawrence's contract

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id ... r-lawrence

It looks like there is an out in 2029 with no Cap Hit but the contract already contains 2 void years.
Like said above, our Cap situation might have a problem with his current contract from a total dollar perspective.
However, it's more favorable than it seems and looking over the Cap numbers for the next 2 years he's only accruing Cap hits of $17M, $24M, $35M and $47M so that's quite manageable.
Geno's Cap hit is $38.5 next year so we could save some Cap $

[c_hawkbob]

Now that Kirk Cousins has been cut I think he's a lot more likely to become a Seahawk than Lawrence. And maybe a lot sooner.

[River Dog]

Now that Kirk Cousins has been cut I think he's a lot more likely to become a Seahawk than Lawrence. And maybe a lot sooner.

I disagree. Cousins is 36 years old, 2 years older than Geno, and IMO it wouldn't be an upgrade. Lawrence is just 25 years old with 3/4 of his career ahead of him.

[Aseahawkfan]

If Mike and John think it's a good move we can afford, then I guess go for it. We all know Jacksonville is where careers go to die: players and coaches. If they think bringing Trevor to Seattle will resurrect his career, then give it a shot. We don't have a lot to use. It's probably the only way we ever get a number one overall draft pick QB. I'm sure if Jacksonville dumps him, there will be a bidding war.

[Aseahawkfan]

I disagree. Cousins is 36 years old, 2 years older than Geno, and IMO it wouldn't be an upgrade. Lawrence is just 25 years old with 3/4 of his career ahead of him.

Cousins came in around the same time as Russ. He's been a mid tier starter most of his career. At this point he would be a minor upgrade to Geno and still unlikely to be a playoff performer. I'd rather spend the money and take the shot with Trevor or draft someone.

[River Dog]

I disagree. Cousins is 36 years old, 2 years older than Geno, and IMO it wouldn't be an upgrade. Lawrence is just 25 years old with 3/4 of his career ahead of him.

Cousins came in around the same time as Russ. He's been a mid tier starter most of his career. At this point he would be a minor upgrade to Geno and still unlikely to be a playoff performer. I'd rather spend the money and take the shot with Trevor or draft someone.

Cousins was drafted in the same draft and by the same team that took RG3: The Redskins. It's ironic that although not HOF worthy, how much longer of a career Cousins had vs. RG3.

As long as we don't have to surrender a first or second rounder, I don't mind taking a shot on Lawrence so long as JS can work his magic with the cap numbers. I don't want to sacrifice rebuilding the OL. But I suspect that someone will pony up a higher pick.

[NorthHawk]

Read my response about the Cap hit and click on the Spotrac link.
We would be SAVING Cap space if we replaced Geno with Lawrence.
For Lawrence though it would be more of the same with a bad OL in front of him.

[Aseahawkfan]

Read my response about the Cap hit and click on the Spotrac link.
We would be SAVING Cap space if we replaced Geno with Lawrence.
For Lawrence though it would be more of the same with a bad OL in front of him.

We do have good receivers though and a running game. If we trade a pick for Lawrence, we still have some quality picks to spend on the O-line. Schneider would have to prioritize the O-line if he wants to give Lawrence a real shot.

Lawrence seemed to be developing until being on a rotten team seems to have just worn him down bringing him to the point of: can he do this or can't he?