Last year for Beast in Seattle?

[HumanCockroach]

Never understood that rationale, I promise you there is ZERO way to know what a player will do, before they do it in a game. Until that staff sees those guys on a field, performing against players in a real game situation, it's a guess. It's an educated guess, but still a guess, as to how they will perform. There are indeed practice players, and gamers, and while practice matters, a player can't be truly evaluated until they are on a field with live bullets so to speak.Doing exactly what people worry about, which is pass protect. If you are going to wait to "address" it, you may be waiting until Wilson has retired.

Fortunately they have a fairly good idea that Okung and Unger can be studs, Sweezy and Carpenter have physical talent and potential, Bowie is coming along nicely though green, and all can and have performed in a regular NFL game. They might not progress, but they all are indeed battle tested. Rookie O-lineman for the most part are a crap shoot, no one knows how they will perform on Sundays, which is why so many first round lineman do a whole lot of nothing, and 5th rounders can turn into HOF 20 year veterans.

There is evaluation all the way through, and often times it isn't the guys you expect to play, that prove most valuable and solid.

[Zorn76]

It's funny that people are so scared of change. No one is talking about forcing Wilson to pass more. If Wilson is the guy we were all holding up as better than Luck, why wouldn't you allow him to pass more as his game develops? if he's one of the top 5 QBs in the league why would it be a mistake to let him throw the ball? If you're against him passing the ball 5 more times per game I'd say you don't really believe what you're saying when you post about how awesome he is. It's called natural progression.

And Future... you sound like a lot of these people trying to act like Kaep is noting but an uber athlete with a 10 cent head almost trying to delude themselves into not having to worry about what he's capable of. Michael didn't plaly because they had a 2nd team all-pro running back on the team already and he needs to be a more consistant blocker. That's the the only reason. Michael has special talent. (He only fell into the 2nd to begin with because of character) He was definitely drafted to succeed Lynch as the feature RB. And if he can learn how block he actually has the potential to be just as good, if not better, than Lynch. He may not run quite as powerfully as Lynch but who does?

Well, I don't consider 5 more pass attempts per game appreciably more, even if % wise it could be looked upon that way. I also pointed out that until we know our OL is better in pass protection, we would be wise to mostly stick with what's been working - running the ball, burning the clock, and shutting down the opponent with formula LOB.

Naturally, if Harvin is healthy, things will likely change. I get it, and it does make sense. I'm talking more about a complete identity switch offensively, in which we see RW throwing 30-35 attempts per game with regularity. IMO, it's much easier to win the T.O.P. battle when the run game is goin' good. Then again, you could say if he's throwing more often and with equal or better accuracy than 2013, that it makes the rush offense more effective, and keeps Beast fresher.

Either way, I'm as big a RW fan as anybody else here. I just think it's wiser to maintain good balance, even if we know Wilson is capable of putting up bigger numbers. Who knows. Maybe Percy swings the balance to a pass first approach. Hope our OL is up to the task.

[kalibane]

I'm not scared of change. Sometimes I don't anticipate change, like the way Pete has changed the paradigm that defense once again wins championships. I wasn't afraid of that change, I just wasn't convinced that was the best way of going about winning a SB. I was dead wrong about that one. Now Pete has a good portion of the league trying to copy his blueprint.

What I am scared of is subjecting Russell Wilson to a higher risk of serious injury before we've fixed our problems along the O-line. Maybe Bailee and Bowie will blossom, maybe we see a new Carpenter, maybe Okung stays healthy all year, and maybe this Britt guy is the real deal. But until our OL stabilizes, I don't want to be sending Russell out in front of that shooting gallery any more than we have to. Feed the Beast!

Ever hear the phrase, "scared money don't make none?". You can't win when your strategy is based on fear.

[NorthHawk]

I've never heard that expression before, but reality can wipe the rose colored glasses off your face pretty quick, too.
RD has some legit concerns.
Winning this Division won't be easy and we are facing 3 of the tougher DLs in the entire NFL twice each.
Couple that with an OL where history shows us it's a better probability the starting LT won't play all games, the starting LG is inconsistent and sometimes downright horrible, the RG is still learning how to play on the Offensive side of the ball, and the RT a green prospect who might or might not become a solid player.
Add in a rookie draft pick to possibly play one of the 4 positions and considering the quality of the DLs, we will be facing, we should be concerned.
The Offensive Line is not a solid group and we can only hope they will be. There's a lot riding on the ifs and hopes.

I'm hoping they do come together and become a solid group, but I'm preparing for the worst because the probability of each position upgrading to better than average is a lot to ask.
Then again, stranger things have happened.

[kalibane]

Concerns is one thing. Basing your entire game plan around fear of an injury is another.

[NorthHawk]

It shouldn't, but your weaknesses will have an impact on your game plan.

[RiverDog]

Concerns is one thing. Basing your entire game plan around fear of an injury is another.

The entire game plan? I thought the debate was about changing the run/pass ratio? Why are you attempting to make an opinion that advocates sticking with the formula that won us a Super Bowl look extreme? Do you feel it's necessary in order to strengthen your own argument?

I don't think we should be putting the apple cart in front of the horse. Let this offensive line prove itself first. Cable's always produced better run blocking OL's than he has pass blocking units. Plus we're not going to be challenged to put up a lot of points as we play in a defense orientated division and I see no big drop off in the ability of our defense to stop high powered offenses.

[kalibane]

I mentioned the possibility of throwing the ball an average of 5 more times per game which is no where near a drastic shift in the offensive philosophy... more a natural progression when a top QB has a better mastery of the game, and all I've been met with is "No I don't want Russell Wilson dropping back more, he might get injured behind our line".

That's what's extreme in my opinion. That and the belief that the offense can't function without a RB like Lynch. It's crazy resistant to change. Marshawn Lynch has been great. In my opinion he's the 2nd best back the Seahawks have had behind Warner but he is not worth a 9 Million dollar cap figure if Christine Michael becomes an adequate blocker. And if Michael isn't quite the workhorse that Lynch is, Russell Wilson should be able to compensate for that. If he isn't (even with a subpar offensive line) then he isn't worth the 22-25 million dollar contract that he's about to get.

[HumanCockroach]

Why are people overly concerned about balancing the offense? 50/50 is what most sane coaches strive for run to pass ratio. So many are worried for Wilson's safety, and yet, he is healthy, right? Could he be injured? Of course, so can every QB that takes a snap in the NFL, stressing out about it, is a pointless, and silly exercise. QB's that hold the ball longer, run an increased risk, that is the brass tacks of the matter, Wilson holds the ball attempting to make plays. Would we like him to stop doing so? I know my answer is no. It is what makes him, him. Something that D coordinators HAVE to account for.

Having lightning fast receivers also, lessens the length of time a QB is asked to do so, and lessens the time necessary to hold the ball ( as they no longer have to "work" open).

Again "fire" claims in the theatre.

Wilson WILL pass the ball more this year, and he WILL most likely pass the ball more the following season. Might as well get used to it. They aren't going to pay him 20 million a year to turn around and hand the ball off forever.

[Bird Droppings]

True conjecture, IG, and valid opinion.

But, in all the posts on this thread I believe Steady has a hold of the pulse, and is not just looking from the sidelines.

The Beast himself will call the shot.

There can be no doubt PC and The Schneid have talked this over with Mr. Lynch ... and I wouldn't be surprised if they did so last year before drafting Michael.

I'm sure they said something like .... "Look, Marshaun, we've got to take out some insurance on you. Part of that policy is to cover liability in case you are injured. Part of that policy is because you might decide to hang it up soon and let you be you. And part of that policy comes down to available money on a new contract".

And Marshaun being Marshaun says: "The imponderables remain imponderable, and even Lloyd's of London cannot underwrite them. It is my intention to continue to evaluate, just as you must, but I will promise you this. I will do what i think is best to maximize my effectiveness and will so relate same to you. If I want to increase or decrease my culpability by running over rather than past a 280 pound ogre I will make that decision of that moment. And I respect you, as you respect me, and I will bust my posterior to maximize this team's success." ... or something like that.

And they said to him "We just wanted you to know we are not trying to force you out".

And Marshaun said "You know by now you can't' force me to do anything except fulfill provisions of my existing contract. And you know I give you more than that."

And they know this, so they took out the policy by drafting a back with freakish possibilities.

So, IG, it would not surprise me if we don't see Mr. Lynch in a football uniform after this year.

It would very much surprised me if I saw him in any others teams colors.

Marshaun leads his own posse. I suspect he is going to get seriously involved in another career, maybe movies, maybe headlining a federal program to help needy kids, maybe he will bottle up the sweet sands of shangi-la and sell them to the highest bidder ... gadzooks, we don't know what he's going to do.

Bevell was really saying not really anything.

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[RiverDog]

Somehow I can't picture Marshawn using words like "imponderable" and "culpability".

But I get your point. There's a lot being written about Lynch's standing up the POTUS and not showing up for OTA's. But Lynch is a bit like Big Walt. Call me when the bell rings. I still think there's some tread left on Marshawn's tires.

[Hawktawk]

Somehow I can't picture Marshawn using words like "imponderable" and "culpability".

But I get your point. There's a lot being written about Lynch's standing up the POTUS and not showing up for OTA's. But Lynch is a bit like Big Walt. Call me when the bell rings. I still think there's some tread left on Marshawn's tires.

Don't blame him for standing up Osama, er Obama. I want to puke every time I see that Communist Islamist flapping his gums lying to the American people.

Just read some scuttlebutt on Yardbarker regarding Lynches posse getting in a scuffle at a concert backstage yesterday. Some conflict as to whether Lynch himself took part. Id cut and paste if I weren't an Idiot. But that kind of thing remains a concern with Lynch. As much as we want to pooh pooh it as Hawks fans there is that sort of shadowy side to Beast stretching back to his days in Buffalo.He could still face a suspension from the league for his legal troubles with the DUI that was plead down to reckless driving.
As for his play hes my favorite back in the league, an unbelievable talent. But hes nursing something every week, always on the injury report. And Big Walt is an excellent example good and bad. He showed up so often Ruskell thought he would always show up, and when he didn't it was abrupt and unplanned for. Hawks are smart to have a contingency plan this time around.

[RiverDog]

Somehow I can't picture Marshawn using words like "imponderable" and "culpability".

But I get your point. There's a lot being written about Lynch's standing up the POTUS and not showing up for OTA's. But Lynch is a bit like Big Walt. Call me when the bell rings. I still think there's some tread left on Marshawn's tires.

Don't blame him for standing up Osama, er Obama. I want to puke every time I see that Communist Islamist flapping his gums lying to the American people.

Just read some scuttlebutt on Yardbarker regarding Lynches posse getting in a scuffle at a concert backstage yesterday. Some conflict as to whether Lynch himself took part. Id cut and paste if I weren't an Idiot. But that kind of thing remains a concern with Lynch. As much as we want to pooh pooh it as Hawks fans there is that sort of shadowy side to Beast stretching back to his days in Buffalo.He could still face a suspension from the league for his legal troubles with the DUI that was plead down to reckless driving.
As for his play hes my favorite back in the league, an unbelievable talent. But hes nursing something every week, always on the injury report. And Big Walt is an excellent example good and bad. He showed up so often Ruskell thought he would always show up, and when he didn't it was abrupt and unplanned for. Hawks are smart to have a contingency plan this time around.

Whether you like his politics or not, Obama is the President, and unless you're Forrest Gump, meeting a current sitting Prez is a once in a lifetime opportunity that very, very few of us will ever get to do. I've lived almost 60 years, and I've only come within spitting distance of one sitting Prez during my life.

But skipping the Presidential bash was just one of the mysteries surrounding Beast. Whether it's his failing to show up at OTA's or the cold shoulder he gives the press, he's an enigma. I'm not rapping him because of it, I'm simply noting that he tends to march to the tune of a different drummer.

[NorthHawk]

I doubt Lynch was thinking politics when he didn't show up to meet the President.
He's his own man who likes to keep a low profile from a National perspective outside of the NFL.

[PasadenaHawk]

Me personally, shaking the hand of a politician, sitting President or otherwise, is for most folks a once in a lifetime opportunity like RD said. But at the end of the day, it really isn't a big deal. I've had my photo op with two presidents and I don't know if I even have the pictures anymore. I'm hardly bragging, just saying, it is no profound moment or anything.

[Bird Droppings]

Altadena: Exactly.

Looking through the rear view mirror is a decision you are content with.

That's what makes it profound.

You made the choice, not the rest of the world, and put it in perspective.

Back in the early 90's, I got to spend a day with Queen Latifah and her manager.

Her manager was a girlfriend she grew up in the same neighborhood with.

I'd take that experience over hanging out with ANY politician.

I'm sure you have had your moments with a real person than a politician, and they are more important than an image manipulator.

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[Hawktawk]

Matt Birk skipped the White House last year for admittedly political reasons.Were I invited to see this clown I would do likewise.
Lynch, I agree he is just an enigma and likely had no motivation other than not wanting to deal with having a camera on him and a mike in his face.

[RiverDog]

Altadena: Exactly.

Looking through the rear view mirror is a decision you are content with.

That's what makes it profound.

You made the choice, not the rest of the world, and put it in perspective.

Back in the early 90's, I got to spend a day with Queen Latifah and her manager.

Her manager was a girlfriend she grew up in the same neighborhood with.

I'd take that experience over hanging out with ANY politician.

I'm sure you have had your moments with a real person than a politician, and they are more important than an image manipulator.

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I'm not in awe of the President. Hell, I didn't even vote for Obama in '08 or '12. Same goes for any other politician, regardless of their political affiliation. I'm also not in awe of rock stars, movie stars, or even professional athletes like my beloved Seahawks. That's why you'll never catch me dead wearing someone else's number or name on my back. IMO as individuals, they are no better and no worse than any of us, and I'll be damned if I'll worship another human being so long as we both share this planet.

I'm not rapping Lynch for not going to see the Prez. He's his own man and it's his decision, just as I don't rap anyone for not sharing my view on wearing someone else's likeness. But for me, shaking hands with the POTUS isn't about meeting him personally. It's about meeting history, about respect for the office, and an acknowledgement of what a great thing it is to live in the USA. I would have crawled on my hands and knees if I knew I was going to get a chance to shake hands with the Prez.

[kalibane]

Ah yes the time honored tradition of being so self righteous that you'd decline an invite from the leader of the free world. So pointless. Do you honestly think that at any point an NFL player has been laying on their death bed and thought to themselves,

"My one regret is that I met the President that one day"

It's funny how much people say they hate players grandstanding and taking the attention away from the team, that's pretty much what Matt Birk and Tim Thomas did. They gained nothing except stealing attention away from a celebration of their team's achievement and making it about their political beliefs. But you know congrats for being a self important d-bag.

I'm with you Riv... the opportunity to meet a sitting president is about history, respect for the Office and the fact that most of these guys are flat out brilliant in one way or another whether you agree with their politics or not. I can't imagine that given equal access and time that there isn't more to learn from meeting the President than Queen Latifah.

[PasadenaHawk]

I'm more similar than not with your line of thinking RD. I don't hold in high regard more than a handful of politicians and even fewer celebrities. I pride myself in not knowing who many of them are. But I will cross the street to meet a Seahawk past or present. I wear No. 12 with my own name on my jersey.

It was just funny to me as I sit at my work desk and all my family pics roll automatically as my screensaver. I saw this discussion and wondered to myself if I still had pics of Reagan and Bush Senior. It was meaningful at the time I met them as I was serving in the military but hadn't thought about the experience(s) in a long, long time.

[Bird Droppings]

Bane of Kali: I got to spend a day with Queen Latifah, not 10 minutes and with a quick handshake thrown in.

Her father was a city cop. Her uncle gave Donna Owens the title "Queen".

She was unknown except to a few when we toured Seattle after she had a performance the night before in a re-arranged college conference room.

The waitress at breakfast finally asked "Do I Know You?"
"Probably not" was Latifah's reply, and introduced herself to the waitress who probably had no idea what "rap" was.

At the airport an aged skycap, as he opened the door, said "My, I am in the presence of a queen".
So weird, because he had no idea who she was.

You can live your life with a few minutes in a bright light with a lot of cameras and other people, and even get an autographed picture.

And shes at the top of the female entertainment ladder as a producer, not just an entertainer. There's Oprah. There's Whoopie. And there's Donna Owens.

Like Altadena mentioned in here, he's been there.

He got an oyster.

I got a pearl. She is a leader in the free world, and other places too.

I don't know if BeastMode likes seafood.

....but you're just fantasizing until you've been there ... kinda like winning a Super Bowl and being part of it even if you're just watching, only different.

I hope you get an opportunity to experience the presence of a remarkable person ... for an entire day.

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[Hawktawk]

I respect the office more than the ass clown in it. Snapping selfies at Mandelas funeral with the blonde female Danish prime minister, chomping gum at a D day ceremony,drawing red lines and then cowering away from being a leader. Golfing at a cost of millions to taxpayers while Putin advances on Eastern Europe. Trading Taliban leaders for a deserter then lying to the American people about it and impugning the character of the men who served with the Taliban sympathiser.

Its unending. Hes destroying the nation. Hes the douche bag, the most polarizing, race baiting, incompetent president in history. I cant stand him, along with a sizable majority of Americans including many Democrats and other fools who put this disaster in the White House. I respect Birk and others who took a stand against him.

[HumanCockroach]

And the political forum is just a few short clicks away......

[Seahawks4Ever]

I would be willing to bet that Marshawn Lynch not meeting the POTUS in the W.H. had nothing to do with who the particular president is. He is too private to get involved with photo ops. There have been other sports players who did boycott the post championship W.H. photo op. with the POTUS for political reasons but that was their right.

[kalibane]

Well yeah Bird... I'd rather sleep with the local news girl than get a kiss on the cheek from Jessica Alba. You're comparing two competely different experiences. I said, given equal time.

And definitely Lynch's absence is about Lynch. The only one making this political is Hawktawk who can't seem to pass up a chance to express his political views.

[Hawktawk]

Well yeah Bird... I'd rather sleep with the local news girl than get a kiss on the cheek from Jessica Alba. You're comparing two competely different experiences. I said, given equal time.

And definitely Lynch's absence is about Lynch. The only one making this political is Hawktawk who can't seem to pass up a chance to express his political views.

Yeah Kal and everybody else I apologize for overcooking this topic in the football forum. Another poster referenced the POTUS thing and my blood pressure went to a boil.I think were flying into the mountain with this Manchurian candidate at the controls and it amazes me how few people really seem to care.

Ill post my rant in the political forum and if anyone wants to rumble lets get it on.

[Seahawks4Ever]

Obama is no "Manchurian" candidate. He was born in America (unlike Ted Cruz) he more than "proved" that he is a natural born citizen. Don't get me wrong, I have more than a few bones to pick with the way he has executed the office of the POTUS. But then, I had major bones to pick with the last two presidents before him too. In fact, I have a major bone to pick with both major political parties and with the SCOTUS too. I mean, the Citizen's United ruling I believe is one of the very worst rulings in U.S. Supreme Court history behind only maybe Dred Scott Roe Vs. Wade and a few others.

Corporations and Unions didn't need to be able to put limitless amounts of money in to political campaigns. Nothing was hindering their "free speech".

We HAVE to get the obscene amounts of money out of local, state, and national elections or this country as we know is doomed and that is where the more immediate danger is. We have been sold out by both democrats and republicans and blaming President Obama for everything and giving the other side a free pass only points to a persons either ignorance and/or stupidity.

[RiverDog]

Obama is no "Manchurian" candidate. He was born in America (unlike Ted Cruz) he more than "proved" that he is a natural born citizen. Don't get me wrong, I have more than a few bones to pick with the way he has executed the office of the POTUS. But then, I had major bones to pick with the last two presidents before him too. In fact, I have a major bone to pick with both major political parties and with the SCOTUS too. I mean, the Citizen's United ruling I believe is one of the very worst rulings in U.S. Supreme Court history behind only maybe Dred Scott Roe Vs. Wade and a few others.

Corporations and Unions didn't need to be able to put limitless amounts of money in to political campaigns. Nothing was hindering their "free speech".

We HAVE to get the obscene amounts of money out of local, state, and national elections or this country as we know is doomed and that is where the more immediate danger is. We have been sold out by both democrats and republicans and blaming President Obama for everything and giving the other side a free pass only points to a persons either ignorance and/or stupidity.

So who can afford to run for office if you take away the ability of candidates of relatively modest personal net worth to raise funds for a campaign?

[NorthHawk]

Obama is no "Manchurian" candidate. He was born in America (unlike Ted Cruz) he more than "proved" that he is a natural born citizen. Don't get me wrong, I have more than a few bones to pick with the way he has executed the office of the POTUS. But then, I had major bones to pick with the last two presidents before him too. In fact, I have a major bone to pick with both major political parties and with the SCOTUS too. I mean, the Citizen's United ruling I believe is one of the very worst rulings in U.S. Supreme Court history behind only maybe Dred Scott Roe Vs. Wade and a few others.

Corporations and Unions didn't need to be able to put limitless amounts of money in to political campaigns. Nothing was hindering their "free speech".

We HAVE to get the obscene amounts of money out of local, state, and national elections or this country as we know is doomed and that is where the more immediate danger is. We have been sold out by both democrats and republicans and blaming President Obama for everything and giving the other side a free pass only points to a persons either ignorance and/or stupidity.

So who can afford to run for office if you take away the ability of candidates of relatively modest personal net worth to raise funds for a campaign?

Maybe that's the whole problem with the system as it is.

[kalibane]

In short... massive campaign finance reform which will never occur because the people who would have to pass the reform are the same people with the most to lose as a result of reforming the system. Politics is so depressing.

How bout them Seahawks?

[HumanCockroach]

How bout them Seahawks?

Yep.

[Hawktawk]

GO BEAST RUN PEOPLE OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO HAWKS.

[NorthHawk]

In short... massive campaign finance reform which will never occur because the people who would have to pass the reform are the same people with the most to lose as a result of reforming the system. Politics is so depressing.

How bout them Seahawks?

Apparently Eric Cantor lost in the Primary race in Virginia to a candidate who only spent $200,000.
Cantor is said to have spent more than $5 million.
Maybe there's hope, yet.

Edit: He raised more than $5 million but spent only about $1 million on the campaign.

[RiverDog]

In short... massive campaign finance reform which will never occur because the people who would have to pass the reform are the same people with the most to lose as a result of reforming the system. Politics is so depressing.

How bout them Seahawks?

Apparently Eric Cantor lost in the Primary race in Virginia to a candidate who only spent $200,000.
Cantor is said to have spent more than $5 million.
Maybe there's hope, yet.

Edit: He raised more than $5 million but spent only about $1 million on the campaign.

Interesting, NH.

Back to football. It looks like Bevell is backing off his "running back by committee" remark, said he was referring only to the players that were at OTA's, which didn't include Lynch.

[HumanCockroach]

Well if these weird arse rumors turn out to be true, the future, could be arriving earlier. I don't see Lynch holding out to rework his contract ( he'll make 7 million this year) but if he demands to much, I could see them trading him with Michaels doing what he has been doing. I would be interested to see if a team was actually willing to part with a decent pick for an aging RB, demanding 9-10 million a year, that has discussed retirement, and soon, no matter how damn tough he is. Suppose a team like Denver or NO who are viewed as "one piece" away might gamble a high draft pick for a player like,Lynch. Who knows?

My guess is it is all fluff and speculation ( Pretty sure Lynch is one of the top five paid backs in the NFL if not top 2-3)but it is weird. I know he skipped OTA's last year, but I don't recall any "contract" speculation floated at that time.

[jshawaii22]

So here you all go. Direct from a 'source' who knows a 'source' and the infamous PFT...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... mini-camp/

If it's true, it sure answers a lot of questions as to Bevel's comments. You just never know and probably won't with Marshawn. Something tells me he's not going to hold a press conference.

Maybe he's just too busy 'going Hollywood' and making his film to come to camp.


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[c_hawkbob]

They just reported on NFL AM that he is indeed holding out of at least mandatory mini-camp asking to redo his contract. He sees the end of his money making opportunity too and wants to cash in before it's too late.

Good luck to him.

[RiverDog]

I sure hope Christine Michael has learned out to block. I doubt that the FO had set aside in their budget a contingency fund for players under contract.

[Seahawks4Ever]

Lynch sees all of these other players getting new contracts and feels he deserves a raise too. The reality is that Marshawn Lynch was the 1st. player to get paid when he signed his new contract a few years ago. I guess he missed where Desean Jackson fired his agent because he had recommended he hold out on the Eagles and it blew up in his face.

Lynch also has forgot that almost nobody wanted him when he came from Buffalo and we are one of the very few teams that would put up with his "attitude". You are so correct, our FO doesn't have money in the budget or the cap room to give in to these unreasonable demands. What Lynch is doing is RENEGGING on his contract! I have never thought of him as a "team first" guy with his previous antics and now he has proven I was correct to be wary of his priorities.

M.L. by holding out is saying "I am more important than Russell Wilson" and if the Seahawks can't renew Wilson's contract because I am demanding more money I don't care". Well, his reneging of his contract is a real deal breaker with me, he has now turned into a TEAM CANCER. This is the kind of B.S. that tears apart teams, Futurite and other 49ner fans are going to be dancing in the streets because there is now a huge chink in our amour.

Now, what to do with Lynch? My first inclination is to try and trade him to the worst team in the AFC as far away from his home in California, some place like the Jacksonville. That way we won't have that 9 million$ salary cap hit next near. But, what if no other team wants him or wants to give up no where near his worth?? Then, let him hold out all season and pay him NOTHING. Me, I am done with him, I don't want him back on the team, if the Seahawks give in to his demands then there will be other players doing to same thing in the future. John and Pete have worked too hard to get everybody paid who deserved to be paid and have CAP room for guys like Wilson who have their rookie peanuts contracts ending. Like I said they took care of Marshawn Lynch FIRST before anybody else, he was guaranteed 18 million dollars which is 5 million more guaranteed than CK of the 49ners. is guaranteed, and yet the greedy punk wants even more.

Beast-Mode will be missed if these selfish demands lead to his leaving the team or to his indefinite suspension, but a cancer has to be cut out or its presence could infect to whole team.

His hold out also sheds light on his not showing up for that Whitehouse photo op. I had given him the benefit of doubt a figured it was just Lynch being shy and wanting to avoid the press, now I know he was separating himself apart from the T.E.A.M. and sending a message to the rest of the Seahawk organization.

[RiverDog]

Lynch sees all of these other players getting new contracts and feels he deserves a raise too. The reality is that Marshawn Lynch was the 1st. player to get paid when he signed his new contract a few years ago. I guess he missed where Desean Jackson fired his agent because he had recommended he hold out on the Eagles and it blew up in his face.

Lynch also has forgot that almost nobody wanted him when he came from Buffalo and we are one of the very few teams that would put up with his "attitude". You are so correct, our FO doesn't have money in the budget or the cap room to give in to these unreasonable demands. What Lynch is doing is RENEGGING on his contract! I have never thought of him as a "team first" guy with his previous antics and now he has proven I was correct to be wary of his priorities.

M.L. by holding out is saying "I am more important than Russell Wilson" and if the Seahawks can't renew Wilson's contract because I am demanding more money I don't care". Well, his reneging of his contract is a real deal breaker with me, he has now turned into a TEAM CANCER. This is the kind of B.S. that tears apart teams, Futurite and other 49ner fans are going to be dancing in the streets because there is now a huge chink in our amour.

Now, what to do with Lynch? My first inclination is to try and trade him to the worst team in the AFC as far away from his home in California, some place like the Jacksonville. That way we won't have that 9 million$ salary cap hit next near. But, what if no other team wants him or wants to give up no where near his worth?? Then, let him hold out all season and pay him NOTHING. Me, I am done with him, I don't want him back on the team, if the Seahawks give in to his demands then there will be other players doing to same thing in the future. John and Pete have worked too hard to get everybody paid who deserved to be paid and have CAP room for guys like Wilson who have their rookie peanuts contracts ending. Like I said they took care of Marshawn Lynch FIRST before anybody else, he was guaranteed 18 million dollars which is 5 million more guaranteed than CK of the 49ners. is guaranteed, and yet the greedy punk wants even more.

Beast-Mode will be missed if these selfish demands lead to his leaving the team or to his indefinite suspension, but a cancer has to be cut out or its presence could infect to whole team.

His hold out also sheds light on his not showing up for that Whitehouse photo op. I had given him the benefit of doubt a figured it was just Lynch being shy and wanting to avoid the press, now I know he was separating himself apart from the T.E.A.M. and sending a message to the rest of the Seahawk organization.

You may want to wait a few more days and see if he shows up to the mandatory mini camp before throwing the Beast under the bus. This holdout of his is all speculation at this point. Even if it turns out to be true, I'd like to wait and see what his demands are before I castigate a man that was a critical component in our only Lombardi in team history. Teams are quick to tear up agreements when a player is under performing or has an over valued contract, so I have no issues with players wanting to do the same when conditions favor them.