The Rams - Not the 49er's -Will be our Toughest Division Foe

[HumanCockroach]

Look at the vote tallies and read the responses before casting us all in the same light, not too many of us voted for a team other than the Niners, and there is a realistic view of who and what the Niners are as a team.

[THX-1138]

Bump

I know it is only pre-season.

I look over to Santa Clara and I see the 49ers are getting their rear end handed to them by Denver at 17 - 0 at the half.

This gives me even more confidence in my call that the NFL team (that no one expects) that will have the greatest fall this year will be the 49ers.

And no I am not a 49er hater - after the 49ers received their second loss last year a majority of the PI board was writing the 49ers off for the season - I posted several times in response to the 49er grave dancing last year that the 49ers would be in the hunt for the Superbowl until the end.

This year though father time is calling and the 49ers cannot avoid this call any longer.

Our toughest division foe will be the Rams.

Lol you guys just cannot stop hating. I wish I knew the true genesis of it.

What hate in that last comment were you referring to? Your squad failed to score, at home in your new digs. Yes, it's only pre-season, but they didn't score. It is a bit telling.

[Futureite]

Bump

I know it is only pre-season.

I look over to Santa Clara and I see the 49ers are getting their rear end handed to them by Denver at 17 - 0 at the half.

This gives me even more confidence in my call that the NFL team (that no one expects) that will have the greatest fall this year will be the 49ers.

And no I am not a 49er hater - after the 49ers received their second loss last year a majority of the PI board was writing the 49ers off for the season - I posted several times in response to the 49er grave dancing last year that the 49ers would be in the hunt for the Superbowl until the end.

This year though father time is calling and the 49ers cannot avoid this call any longer.

Our toughest division foe will be the Rams.

Lol you guys just cannot stop hating. I wish I knew the true genesis of it.

What hate in that last comment were you referring to? Your squad failed to score, at home in your new digs. Yes, it's only pre-season, but they didn't score. It is a bit telling.

What did it tell you?

[THX-1138]

Lol you guys just cannot stop hating. I wish I knew the true genesis of it.

What hate in that last comment were you referring to? Your squad failed to score, at home in your new digs. Yes, it's only pre-season, but they didn't score. It is a bit telling.[/quote]

What did it tell you?[/quote]

That the 49ers offense is having trouble scoring, given that they have only mustered 3 points in two games. I would think that this game in particular would have had them motivated to produce more offensively. Whether my observation is accurate or not I don't think that either mine or savvy's comment constituted hate if any kind. And you still haven't answered the question of what constituted hate in the post to begin with. Perhaps I could request that your response to me, if there is one, start there.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

We all know it is only preseason, but you would like to see your team score something. Even with the goose egg, I'm not reading anything into it just yet. They are still the team that made to the NFCCG last year, so I expect them to put it together when the season starts.

The age factor, though, that is legit. My best friend is a die-hard Niner fan, and he always mentions that age hasn't stopped guys like Gore, J. Smith, Boldin, and Davis. That has been true to this point, but the bill comes due, one way or another. Maybe it won't be this season for them, but it is coming sooner rather than later.

[Futureite]

We all know it is only preseason, but you would like to see your team score something. Even with the goose egg, I'm not reading anything into it just yet. They are still the team that made to the NFCCG last year, so I expect them to put it together when the season starts.

The age factor, though, that is legit. My best friend is a die-hard Niner fan, and he always mentions that age hasn't stopped guys like Gore, J. Smith, Boldin, and Davis. That has been true to this point, but the bill comes due, one way or another. Maybe it won't be this season for them, but it is coming sooner rather than later.

That may be true. But that is what Carlos Hyde, Bruce Ellington, Crabtree, Stevie Johnson etc are for. There are a few older guys but it seems like we go round in circles in this one. All of those guys can still play, and when they cannot it's nit the end all be all of our team. Personally, I already feel as though Hyde looks better than Gore. If you look at the entire roster, this is a very young team.

[NorthHawk]

The Seahawks and 49ers are the 2 most complete teams in the NFC West with the Cardinals as a dark horse.
I think the Rams have a lot of talent, but they need a little time to put it all together.

[Futureite]

Lol you guys just cannot stop hating. I wish I knew the true genesis of it.

What hate in that last comment were you referring to? Your squad failed to score, at home in your new digs. Yes, it's only pre-season, but they didn't score. It is a bit telling.

What did it tell you?[/quote]

That the 49ers offense is having trouble scoring, given that they have only mustered 3 points in two games. I would think that this game in particular would have had them motivated to produce more offensively. Whether my observation is accurate or not I don't think that either mine or savvy's comment constituted hate if any kind. And you still haven't answered the question of what constituted hate in the post to begin with. Perhaps I could request that your response to me, if there is one, start there.[/quote]

Did you watch the game? Colin threw a beautiful 40 ball into the endzone that Lloyd shortarmed. Right on point with a guy in his face. You realize that the first team O has had a grand total of 3 drives this preseasin. And they've moved the ball into scoring position each time. I see nothing whatsoever that indicates we are going to have trouble scoring. They do need to all get on the same page, but we have mismatches all over the field. That'll happen over time.

Maybe it's not hate. But you're drawing a conclusion based upon a preseason game? There has to be some name for that.

[HumanCockroach]

I would suspect that most fans expect the backups to be able to produce some points as well, I mean that IS what "quality" depth is isn't it? Some of those player are going to be relied on to play on Sundays right? I know in Seattle we expect at least an "average" showing from our backups, but maybe that is just our heightened expectations coming to the forefront. Not sure. I do know that without that quality depth, they wouldn't have achieved what they did last season.

[Futureite]

The Seahawks and 49ers are the 2 most complete teams in the NFC West with the Cardinals as a dark horse.
I think the Rams have a lot of talent, but they need a little time to put it all together.

As I was driving the other day I thought "maybe Carroll has it right. Maybe you should play your QB longer in the preseason, encourage your young guys to crush the other team. Maybe that 100% always compete thing is right, and JH has it wrong". JH basically throws any random combination of guys out to see how they fare. Colin gets a series, maybe two - which I totally disagree with. They have polar opposite approaches.

But then I remembered: Last yr Seattle was 13-3, we were 12-4. They were separated by the slimmest of margins in the NFCCCG. I concluded that the preseason approach is different, but really makes no difference in the regular season.

[HumanCockroach]

Oh, and sorry man. You probably won't admit it ( and probably actively deny it) but it couldn't have been fun watching your team get raped in it's first game, in it's brand new stadium, hell of a way to christen it. I personally wouldn't be "upset" as it is only pre season, but I would be certainly very dissapointed.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

Not saying they aren't building depth, but is there another Justin Smith or Vernon Davis or Joe Staley? There's always drop off when you lose singular talents like those. Doesn't mean y'all won't be competitive; I expect you to be, but some guys really are irreplaceable.

And I also thought Hyde looked good.

[Futureite]

I would suspect that most fans expect the backups to be able to produce some points as well, I mean that IS what "quality" depth is isn't it? Some of those player are going to be relied on to play on Sundays right? I know in Seattle we expect at least an "average" showing from our backups, but maybe that is just our heightened expectations coming to the forefront. Not sure. I do know that without that quality depth, they wouldn't have achieved what they did last season.

I agree. But I also think there is a huge difference between sprinkling backups in with starters in the regular season and starting an entire unit of backups together in the preseason, some of whom have never played with each other. For example, Tiny Jerod-Edfie (TJE) has been great as a rotation guy, but today he started alongside Mike Purcell - a practice squad guy who will not make the team - and Dobbs, who may not make the team. I hoped that group could play better together, but maybe that is unrealistic V Peyton. We sat in a vanilla zone and Manning picked us apart. Borland got exposed in pass coverage, but will he even play this yr? Sucks as a fan, but it's not not terribly surprising.

[Futureite]

Not saying they aren't building depth, but is there another Justin Smith or Vernon Davis or Joe Staley? There's always drop off when you lose singular talents like those. Doesn't mean y'all won't be competitive; I expect you to be, but some guys really are irreplaceable.

And I also thought Hyde looked good.

J. Smith will be hard to replace. VD has yrs and yrs left, as does Staley. They are 30 and 29, respectively. At some point we have to replace those guys, but neither has even experienced a significant injury. I kind of equate that to the "Lynch is old" mantra. Lol sure runs pretty young to me. He is going to be hard to replace too when he slows down, but I seriously doubt that will happen this yr.

[HumanCockroach]

I would suspect that most fans expect the backups to be able to produce some points as well, I mean that IS what "quality" depth is isn't it? Some of those player are going to be relied on to play on Sundays right? I know in Seattle we expect at least an "average" showing from our backups, but maybe that is just our heightened expectations coming to the forefront. Not sure. I do know that without that quality depth, they wouldn't have achieved what they did last season.

I agree. But I also think there is a huge difference between sprinkling backups in with starters in the regular season and starting an entire unit of backups together in the preseason, some of whom have never played with each other. For example, Tiny Jerod-Edfie (TJE) has been great as a rotation guy, but today he started alongside Mike Purcell - a practice squad guy who will not make the team - and Dobbs, who may not make the team. I hoped that group could play better together, but maybe that is unrealistic V Peyton. We sat in a vanilla zone and Manning picked us apart. Borland got exposed in pass coverage, but will he even play this yr? Sucks as a fan, but it's not not terribly surprising.

I suppose, but Seattle does the same, both with the starters, and the backups, mixing and matching, putting guys with long odds to make the team in with 2 nd and even sometimes the starters, lot of guys have made the team doing so, by playing at or above the levels those in front of them have. Have to say the ttraded for Gabbert doesn't look real smart as of today, but it isn't like you guys didn't have a butt load of picks, so ultimately there is no real loss there, but if I was you, I would say a little prayer every night for Kaps health. Any team loses it's starter and it's bad news, but if his play so far is any indication any wins, might be asking a bit to much, at least as of now.

[Futureite]

Oh, and sorry man. You probably won't admit it ( and probably actively deny it) but it couldn't have been fun watching your team get raped in it's first game, in it's brand new stadium, hell of a way to christen it. I personally wouldn't be "upset" as it is only pre season, but I would be certainly very dissapointed.

Of course I was upset. Lol want me to post my text messages to my dad and friends to verify? That was a pathetic performance. I can be upset but rational enough to know not to draw conclusions from it. Remember the Saints' ptlreseasin game in 2011 where Payton blitzed us all game and made us look like a highschool team in JH's debut? It had no bearing on the type of team we had. Neither did Manning abusing our starters (Bow, Willis etc) in the 2012 preseason. That was worse, because our starters did not even slow him down. 2 drives, 2 TDs. It usually does not mean much.

[Futureite]

I would suspect that most fans expect the backups to be able to produce some points as well, I mean that IS what "quality" depth is isn't it? Some of those player are going to be relied on to play on Sundays right? I know in Seattle we expect at least an "average" showing from our backups, but maybe that is just our heightened expectations coming to the forefront. Not sure. I do know that without that quality depth, they wouldn't have achieved what they did last season.

I agree. But I also think there is a huge difference between sprinkling backups in with starters in the regular season and starting an entire unit of backups together in the preseason, some of whom have never played with each other. For example, Tiny Jerod-Edfie (TJE) has been great as a rotation guy, but today he started alongside Mike Purcell - a practice squad guy who will not make the team - and Dobbs, who may not make the team. I hoped that group could play better together, but maybe that is unrealistic V Peyton. We sat in a vanilla zone and Manning picked us apart. Borland got exposed in pass coverage, but will he even play this yr? Sucks as a fan, but it's not not terribly surprising.

I suppose, but Seattle does the same, both with the starters, and the backups, mixing and matching, putting guys with long odds to make the team in with 2 nd and even sometimes the starters, lot of guys have made the team doing so, by playing at or above the levels those in front of them have. Have to say the ttraded for Gabbert doesn't look real smart as of today, but it isn't like you guys didn't have a butt load of picks, so ultimately there is no real loss there, but if I was you, I would say a little prayer every night for Kaps health. Any team loses it's starter and it's bad news, but if his play so far is any indication any wins, might be asking a bit to much, at least as of now.

Gabbert is horrible. Cut him now. JH could take a cue from Carroll. He paid for Flynn but said hey, we f'd up and let's move on. Gabs reminds me so much of Alex. Always high, shaky in the pocket. Just cut him.

[Rambo2014]

Yes Rambo is in the building! LOL! Niners look bad for past two game. My team looks so so hoping out D will see us through but Seahawks looks oh so fast and talented! hate to say that but if they can concentrate and keep injuries down they will be tough. rams will overtake Niners though.

[HumanCockroach]

This is what I am hoping for this season SEATTLE and then three other teams in a battle royal for table scraps.... LOL

[RiverDog]

Ahh, Ramblow. Glad to see you found us!

[Futureite]

Yes Rambo is in the building! LOL! Niners look bad for past two game. My team looks so so hoping out D will see us through but Seahawks looks oh so fast and talented! hate to say that but if they can concentrate and keep injuries down they will be tough. rams will overtake Niners though.

Since we are all talking junk, didn't we sweep you guys last yr? And isn't our inner division record 13-4-1 since 2011? Keep the predictions coming!

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

Not saying they aren't building depth, but is there another Justin Smith or Vernon Davis or Joe Staley? There's always drop off when you lose singular talents like those. Doesn't mean y'all won't be competitive; I expect you to be, but some guys really are irreplaceable.

And I also thought Hyde looked good.

J. Smith will be hard to replace. VD has yrs and yrs left, as does Staley. They are 30 and 29, respectively. At some point we have to replace those guys, but neither has even experienced a significant injury. I kind of equate that to the "Lynch is old" mantra. Lol sure runs pretty young to me. He is going to be hard to replace too when he slows down, but I seriously doubt that will happen this yr.

Years and years for VD? He'll do this until he's 40? I don't think that is what you mean, but years and years suggests 5+ years; that doesn't sound realistic. He may hang in the league, but how much longer will he be the threat he has been? And Lynch is old; I'm a bit anxious to see how he holds up this season. 300+ carries over each of the last three seasons will catch up to him. Most of these guys lose a step at the 30 mark; Lynch and VD are no different. I can't see either having more than this season and maybe next as being what they have been.

[Bird Droppings]

I'm not much of a voter, KemoSavvy, but if I've ever seen a split decision .... consensus is a foreign word herein.

No one has mentioned the Rams have an easier schedule, coupled with a new "genius cheater" DC, and it wouldn't surprise me that when Seattle cuts Pryor and/or Daniels, that one of them will end up in the Loo. But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Cardinals are headed to the baseball playorffs. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

Many have mentioned "implosion" regarding the Niners, but I see them working the waiver wire or a trade with their plethora of picks to swap and, they just might be able to buy harmony.
But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Giants are headed to the baseball playoffs. The over/under is 10.5 wins.

The Arizona Cardinals now have an established offensive system (no Wisenhunt wanking) and it could be Bruce Ariends is, indeed a genius. Carson Palmer still has juice and don't be surprised if the Cards don't go after Pryor or Daniels, if available. By the way, the Diamondsnacks are out of the baseball playoffs and that disappointing year has led to a lot of media and fan attention in that dismal market. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

The Seattle Mariners are still in the baseball playoff hunt. The over/under on the Hawks is 11 wins.

Two years ago, the over/under on the Hawks was 7 wins, and at some joints in Vegas it was at 6.5 wins.

Scorpio is ascending, and Pluto has been declared a non-planet. ISIS is back from the old days of Egypt, and a rap cd that did not sell.

Were I to consider making an over under wager, I would make three of them. Over on St. Loo. Over on Ariz. and under on Santa Clararisco.

Toughest division foe. How about the record of the NFC against other teams from other divisions they play. I would jump all over the NFC West to crush those foes.

But, KemoSavvy, I ain't votin on your trick question ... too many quirks and quandries.

And I would not bet that the Cardinals do not end up the toughest division foe.

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[Futureite]

Not saying they aren't building depth, but is there another Justin Smith or Vernon Davis or Joe Staley? There's always drop off when you lose singular talents like those. Doesn't mean y'all won't be competitive; I expect you to be, but some guys really are irreplaceable.

And I also thought Hyde looked good.

J. Smith will be hard to replace. VD has yrs and yrs left, as does Staley. They are 30 and 29, respectively. At some point we have to replace those guys, but neither has even experienced a significant injury. I kind of equate that to the "Lynch is old" mantra. Lol sure runs pretty young to me. He is going to be hard to replace too when he slows down, but I seriously doubt that will happen this yr.

Years and years for VD? He'll do this until he's 40? I don't think that is what you mean, but years and years suggests 5+ years; that doesn't sound realistic. He may hang in the league, but how much longer will he be the threat he has been? And Lynch is old; I'm a bit anxious to see how he holds up this season. 300+ carries over each of the last three seasons will catch up to him. Most of these guys lose a step at the 30 mark; Lynch and VD are no different. I can't see either having more than this season and maybe next as being what they have been.

Remember when we had this debate last yr about Boldin. A lot of people not only laughed, but actually called me a number of names when I suggested he was easily capable of 1,000 yd season. But I had posted numerous examples of receivers who had done so at Boldin's age or older. For some reason no one believed or acknowledged it. I still do not understand why. Same concept with VD.

Age effects the decline at every position differently. At TE, Tony Gonzalez was productive well into his mid 30's. Antonio Gates just had a very productive yr in his mid 30's after dealing with chronic foot/injury issues the past couple of yrs. VD is younger than both and has zero injury issues in his career to date. He is asked to do some blocking, but overall he does not plsy a position where his body takes a pounding. He could be extremely productive for at least 3 or 4 more yrs. He is currently the fastest TE in the league and he is not going anywhere production wise in the near furure.

Lynch may slow earlier than VD, but that is because his legs and body is pounded on a regular basis by 300+ lb men - not because he's near 30. The shelf life for a power back like Lynch is much shorter than every other position, and they can fall off a cliff without warning. But in my opinion he'll be outstanding again this yr. We can project 3 or 4 yrs into the future, but who knows what changes either team may have made by then.

[Futureite]

I'm not much of a voter, KemoSavvy, but if I've ever seen a split decision .... consensus is a foreign word herein.

No one has mentioned the Rams have an easier schedule, coupled with a new "genius cheater" DC, and it wouldn't surprise me that when Seattle cuts Pryor and/or Daniels, that one of them will end up in the Loo. But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Cardinals are headed to the baseball playorffs. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

Many have mentioned "implosion" regarding the Niners, but I see them working the waiver wire or a trade with their plethora of picks to swap and, they just might be able to buy harmony.
But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Giants are headed to the baseball playoffs. The over/under is 10.5 wins.

The Arizona Cardinals now have an established offensive system (no Wisenhunt wanking) and it could be Bruce Ariends is, indeed a genius. Carson Palmer still has juice and don't be surprised if the Cards don't go after Pryor or Daniels, if available. By the way, the Diamondsnacks are out of the baseball playoffs and that disappointing year has led to a lot of media and fan attention in that dismal market. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

The Seattle Mariners are still in the baseball playoff hunt. The over/under on the Hawks is 11 wins.

Two years ago, the over/under on the Hawks was 7 wins, and at some joints in Vegas it was at 6.5 wins.

Scorpio is ascending, and Pluto has been declared a non-planet. ISIS is back from the old days of Egypt, and a rap cd that did not sell.

Were I to consider making an over under wager, I would make three of them. Over on St. Loo. Over on Ariz. and under on Santa Clararisco.

Toughest division foe. How about the record of the NFC against other teams from other divisions they play. I would jump all over the NFC West to crush those foes.

But, KemoSavvy, I ain't votin on your trick question ... too many quirks and quandries.

And I would not bet that the Cardinals do not end up the toughest division foe.

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Jesus lol. Who are we working the waiver wire or trading for. And why again? You guys have got to be shyting me with some of these posts.

[HumanCockroach]

I'm not much of a voter, KemoSavvy, but if I've ever seen a split decision .... consensus is a foreign word herein.

No one has mentioned the Rams have an easier schedule, coupled with a new "genius cheater" DC, and it wouldn't surprise me that when Seattle cuts Pryor and/or Daniels, that one of them will end up in the Loo. But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Cardinals are headed to the baseball playorffs. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

Many have mentioned "implosion" regarding the Niners, but I see them working the waiver wire or a trade with their plethora of picks to swap and, they just might be able to buy harmony.
But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Giants are headed to the baseball playoffs. The over/under is 10.5 wins.

The Arizona Cardinals now have an established offensive system (no Wisenhunt wanking) and it could be Bruce Ariends is, indeed a genius. Carson Palmer still has juice and don't be surprised if the Cards don't go after Pryor or Daniels, if available. By the way, the Diamondsnacks are out of the baseball playoffs and that disappointing year has led to a lot of media and fan attention in that dismal market. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

The Seattle Mariners are still in the baseball playoff hunt. The over/under on the Hawks is 11 wins.

Two years ago, the over/under on the Hawks was 7 wins, and at some joints in Vegas it was at 6.5 wins.

Scorpio is ascending, and Pluto has been declared a non-planet. ISIS is back from the old days of Egypt, and a rap cd that did not sell.

Were I to consider making an over under wager, I would make three of them. Over on St. Loo. Over on Ariz. and under on Santa Clararisco.

Toughest division foe. How about the record of the NFC against other teams from other divisions they play. I would jump all over the NFC West to crush those foes.

But, KemoSavvy, I ain't votin on your trick question ... too many quirks and quandries.

And I would not bet that the Cardinals do not end up the toughest division foe.

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Jesus lol. Who are we working the waiver wire or trading for. And why again? You guys have got to be shyting me with some of these posts.

You really don't think they'll treat this season like they have the last couple years? Interesting, enlighten us as to why they will not be looking to claim or sign camp cuts that can improve the depth at say QB, LB or DB. They did so the last several years to improve depth and fill holes ( as has Seattle, and any other team that stays competitive) why would this year be different? Are you completely sold on the depth being top notch? And therfore feel no need to continue to upgrade the depth and weak areas on the team? Seriously, I'm curious. Why wouldn't they be looking for improved depth, hell if Seattle cuts Pryor, I could see Santa Clara jumping all over that, couldn't you?

[Futureite]

I'm not much of a voter, KemoSavvy, but if I've ever seen a split decision .... consensus is a foreign word herein.

No one has mentioned the Rams have an easier schedule, coupled with a new "genius cheater" DC, and it wouldn't surprise me that when Seattle cuts Pryor and/or Daniels, that one of them will end up in the Loo. But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Cardinals are headed to the baseball playorffs. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

Many have mentioned "implosion" regarding the Niners, but I see them working the waiver wire or a trade with their plethora of picks to swap and, they just might be able to buy harmony.
But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Giants are headed to the baseball playoffs. The over/under is 10.5 wins.

The Arizona Cardinals now have an established offensive system (no Wisenhunt wanking) and it could be Bruce Ariends is, indeed a genius. Carson Palmer still has juice and don't be surprised if the Cards don't go after Pryor or Daniels, if available. By the way, the Diamondsnacks are out of the baseball playoffs and that disappointing year has led to a lot of media and fan attention in that dismal market. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

The Seattle Mariners are still in the baseball playoff hunt. The over/under on the Hawks is 11 wins.

Two years ago, the over/under on the Hawks was 7 wins, and at some joints in Vegas it was at 6.5 wins.

Scorpio is ascending, and Pluto has been declared a non-planet. ISIS is back from the old days of Egypt, and a rap cd that did not sell.

Were I to consider making an over under wager, I would make three of them. Over on St. Loo. Over on Ariz. and under on Santa Clararisco.

Toughest division foe. How about the record of the NFC against other teams from other divisions they play. I would jump all over the NFC West to crush those foes.

But, KemoSavvy, I ain't votin on your trick question ... too many quirks and quandries.

And I would not bet that the Cardinals do not end up the toughest division foe.

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Jesus lol. Who are we working the waiver wire or trading for. And why again? You guys have got to be shyting me with some of these posts.

You really don't think they'll treat this season like they have the last couple years? Interesting, enlighten us as to why they will not be looking to claim or sign camp cuts that can improve the depth at say QB, LB or DB. They did so the last several years to improve depth and fill holes ( as has Seattle, and any other team that stays competitive) why would this year be different? Are you completely sold on the depth being top notch? And therfore feel no need to continue to upgrade the depth and weak areas on the team? Seriously, I'm curious. Why wouldn't they be looking for improved depth, hell if Seattle cuts Pryor, I could see Santa Clara jumping all over that, couldn't you?[/quote]

No, I could not see any way we'd sign Pryor. Maybe if you cut Daniels we'd bring him back. Uncle Rico AKA Gabs is god aweful. Whoever earns 2nd string could not be much worse.

BirdDroppings (lol is that his name) wasn't making a reference to business as usual signings. And you know that. And so does everyone else who read it. And I am sure they can also infer that you're trying to make it appear as if I took an arrogant stance by suggesting we'd not be scouring the waiver wire or making a trade to scrape by. And by the way, most teams do not trade this late.

But even then the answer is no. According to Baalke the roster is set but for 4 positions.

Do I think our depth is top notch? Lol if we are using current NFL teams as a benchmark hell yes. Tjere. I gave you tje arrogant Santa Clara response you were looking for .

[kalibane]

I actually don't get the Gregg Williams hire as DC, dude is not a genius. I'm not sure that it's an improvement. Williams has always blitzed a ton and he's pretty good at developing good blitz schemes. But if you have the Dline that the Rams have, there is no need to blitz.

He hasn't shown the ability to be flexible in the past. He does a good job overall getting pressure on the QB but he usually ends up being too in love with the blitz and ends up getting burned because of it. I haven't seen them play in the pre-season but I'm going to be really interested in whether he'll actually adapt to the personel he has, which screams to rush four and cover on the back end or if he's going to insist on sticking to his philosophy, sending more guys than he needs to and leaving his secondary exposed.

If he insists on sticking to his scheme, it actually might be good for the Seahawks in spite of the shaky Oline because Wilson has been very good against the blitz for the most part.

[NorthHawk]

I actually don't get the Gregg Williams hire as DC, dude is not a genius. I'm not sure that it's an improvement. Williams has always blitzed a ton and he's pretty good at developing good blitz schemes. But if you have the Dline that the Rams have, there is no need to blitz.

He hasn't shown the ability to be flexible in the past. He does a good job overall getting pressure on the QB but he usually ends up being too in love with the blitz and ends up getting burned because of it. I haven't seen them play in the pre-season but I'm going to be really interested in whether he'll actually adapt to the personel he has, which screams to rush four and cover on the back end or if he's going to insist on sticking to his philosophy, sending more guys than he needs to and leaving his secondary exposed.

If he insists on sticking to his scheme, it actually might be good for the Seahawks in spite of the shaky Oline because Wilson has been very good against the blitz for the most part.

I think he's a friend of Fisher so if he thinks similarly, it would take a load off of the HC to concentrate on other areas.
The Old boys club as well, I guess.

[kalibane]

Yeah I know Williams and Fisher go back to the days of the Titans (maybe even the Oilers) I know that's a big part of why he was hired. I just don't get it from a scheme standpoint.

[Futureite]

Yeah I know Williams and Fisher go back to the days of the Titans (maybe even the Oilers) I know that's a big part of why he was hired. I just don't get it from a scheme standpoint.

I hear what you are saying, but to me they are twice as scary on D with a type A agressive D coordinator. He will send the house at any point in the game without warning. I am sure they will play plenty of base D too. But that added dimension is going o make them that much tougher. Especially if they get a lead. To be honest I am kind of excited to watch that D.

[Bird Droppings]

Bane of Kali, yes, Williams was kind of a one trick pony in the past ... but that past included some very intriguing D schemes ... not just blitz, blitz, blitz.

More importantly, he got knocked off his horse and trampled by a herd and he got up, dusted himself off, and said "I'm gonna git you suckers," when most would have crawled away to another horizon.

You WILL see a some "new" from the Rams D, probably more of a hybrid Saints style as they have a slew of rhinos up front.

So, Back to the Future, you ain't sweatin missing A. Smith and Bowman ... you be satisfied with their backups and their backups and Grabbit as a back-up QB? You bettin they won't add anyone before the opening game ... with their draft pick stuffed pinata ... surely, you are not serious?

Yes, trades happen late, right up to a few minutes before the final cuts, for teams who have a need to fill and who are way down the picking list on the waiver wire list.

I can still see the Hawks going for a punt returner at that bewitching hour. And it could be player for player, and not a returner for a draft pick ...especially to another team with a significant need that a Hawk cut could fill ... who are also way down on the waiver wire list.

Patriots have used that scheme, and has proven that it works.

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[kalibane]

If they blitz a lot I'm less worried about the Rams. The Rams give us trouble because they destroy our offensive line with a 4 man rush giving Wilson no time to complete his drops and get the throw off. If they start blitzing Wilson can diagnose it at the line and check into a hot read or the correct play because he knows ahead of time that he has to get the ball out really quick. If they want to blitz I'm ALL for it.

They may be a better defense overall against the rest of the league but I think that them blitzing makes it easier on our offense even if it seems counterintuitive that more pressure would be helpful.

[Futureite]

Bane of Kali, yes, Williams was kind of a one trick pony in the past ... but that past included some very intriguing D schemes ... not just blitz, blitz, blitz.

More importantly, he got knocked off his horse and trampled by a herd and he got up, dusted himself off, and said "I'm gonna git you suckers," when most would have crawled away to another horizon.

You WILL see a some "new" from the Rams D, probably more of a hybrid Saints style as they have a slew of rhinos up front.

So, Back to the Future, you ain't sweatin missing A. Smith and Bowman ... you be satisfied with their backups and their backups and Grabbit as a back-up QB? You bettin they won't add anyone before the opening game ... with their draft pick stuffed pinata ... surely, you are not serious?

Yes, trades happen late, right up to a few minutes before the final cuts, for teams who have a need to fill and who are way down the picking list on the waiver wire list.

I can still see the Hawks going for a punt returner at that bewitching hour. And it could be player for player, and not a returner for a draft pick ...especially to another team with a significant need that a Hawk cut could fill ... who are also way down on the waiver wire list.

Patriots have used that scheme, and has proven that it works.

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There is no way they add a LB. That is a strength position. We've drafted 3 of them in the last 2 yrs and our D played very well with Willhoite and Skuta/Lemonier subbing for Aldon and Willis last yr. People forget that Aldon missed 5 games last yr and played sparingly in the first couple games after that absence. Yes I am worried. But at the same time we already have a good sample size to know how the D looks without Aldon.

Uncle Rico is a worry. Lol that guy will literallt lose games. But, I wonder how many NFL teams could realistically survive the season if they lost their starting QB. Bears O did well, Packers lost a bunch of games even with a guy who had spent yrs in their system in Flynn. Maybe the Redskins with Cousins? In the NFC you are in big trouble if you drop even a game with yiur 2nd string guy playing.

Maybe I misread your post, but the tenor of it seemed to suggest we are a playoff bubble team that will be looking to trade or work FA to plug holes in an effort to make the playoffs. I did not read it as stating that the 49ers will do what 31 other teams regularly do and keep their eye open for a player that could potentially fit in their system. That's kind of a given.

[HumanCockroach]

It surprises me a bit that you don't think that Harbaugh would be interested in Pryor to be honest, every time time I see him play I immediately think of year one Kaepernick, I would think that Harbaugh if he is the "Quarterback whisperer" we've been lead to believe might indeed be interested in a QB with similar traits and abilities to the one that he has tied his wagon to for the forseable future and spent a second round draft pick initially to attain for pretty much nothing.

Doesn't bother me that you don't think he will be or anything, just thought that was an odd statement.

[HumanCockroach]

Starting to think that Arizona can be safely dismissed ( or at least not fretted over) St. Louis has a really nice , downright nasty front seven, but again they have that suspect back end, similar to the Niners, an unrefined offense with a bunch of young players, so I'm not thinking that they are a serious threat as of right now, they could become one if the players advance faster than normal, but it looks to be a two legged race to me shaping up yet again with a 6-10ish Cards team, and a 8-8ish Rams

[Zorn76]

49ers.

And it's not even close.

Nothing changes.

[savvyman]

17 people will learn a life lesson.

You don't forecast the future by looking into the rear view mirror.

Rams will rise and the 49ers will fall this year - So it is written, so it shall be done.

[savvyman]

I'm not much of a voter, KemoSavvy, but if I've ever seen a split decision .... consensus is a foreign word herein.

No one has mentioned the Rams have an easier schedule, coupled with a new "genius cheater" DC, and it wouldn't surprise me that when Seattle cuts Pryor and/or Daniels, that one of them will end up in the Loo. But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Cardinals are headed to the baseball playorffs. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

Many have mentioned "implosion" regarding the Niners, but I see them working the waiver wire or a trade with their plethora of picks to swap and, they just might be able to buy harmony.
But I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, the Giants are headed to the baseball playoffs. The over/under is 10.5 wins.

The Arizona Cardinals now have an established offensive system (no Wisenhunt wanking) and it could be Bruce Ariends is, indeed a genius. Carson Palmer still has juice and don't be surprised if the Cards don't go after Pryor or Daniels, if available. By the way, the Diamondsnacks are out of the baseball playoffs and that disappointing year has led to a lot of media and fan attention in that dismal market. The over/under is 7.5 wins.

The Seattle Mariners are still in the baseball playoff hunt. The over/under on the Hawks is 11 wins.

Two years ago, the over/under on the Hawks was 7 wins, and at some joints in Vegas it was at 6.5 wins.

Scorpio is ascending, and Pluto has been declared a non-planet. ISIS is back from the old days of Egypt, and a rap cd that did not sell.

Were I to consider making an over under wager, I would make three of them. Over on St. Loo. Over on Ariz. and under on Santa Clararisco.

Toughest division foe. How about the record of the NFC against other teams from other divisions they play. I would jump all over the NFC West to crush those foes.

But, KemoSavvy, I ain't votin on your trick question ... too many quirks and quandries.

And I would not bet that the Cardinals do not end up the toughest division foe.

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Nice post - You should post here more often.

[wait_a_sec]

Call me crazy but I picked Cards. SF has all the pressure on them. It's SB or bust with a coach that doesn't get along with the higher ups. Key players aging. Haven't seen anything on offense that supposedly has improved. Yes it's preseason. But 3 points total thus far should worry them. New stadium pressure will only add to the fire. The fans will be out for blood if they experience any series of losses. Lots of potential for implosion. Cards have nowhere to go but up.

Rams offense just won't cut the mustard. If Bradford does finally have the year he was drafted to do, then good for them. But just don't see it happening.