Irvin, why are you talking?

[mykc14]

I am hoping Irvin has a good season, but now is not the time for him to be giving the Pak bulletin board material. He hasn't played all pre-season and now he comes out with this, come on! On a positive note, he says he will be playing tomorrow, hopefully he backs that talk with a big game!

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11458 ... ey-linsley

[c_hawkbob]

I got no problem at all with anything he said.

[kalibane]

This has been the Seahawks m/o for the last three years. What makes you think it's going to change now? Talking about Manning's ducks didn't help the Broncos. Talking about the Niners didn't help them. I'm sure one day the guys talking will have to eat their words but they aren't changing ... get used to it.

[THX-1138]

I have to agree. Why is Irvin talking? Just play the game; doesn't that speak loud enough? Wilson don't talk. Beast don't talk (at all). Sherman don't.............

Umm...wait.

Never mind.

[mykc14]

That's sort of my point, if it were Sherman or ADB saying something then it wouldn't be as big a deal to me, but Irvin, who hasn't practiced all pre-season and may barely play on Thursday is the one talking trash. It sort of reminds me of when the niner's backup running back was talking smack last season before our week 2 match up against them, its like why are you saying anything. My point is if your gonna say something before a game you better at least be in a position to make an impact, and like I said before, I hope he does.

[jshawaii22]

Bruce is not Sherman.

And I think some of the sentiment toward him not saying anything... at least mine.. is that I remember Jeremy "The Mouth" Stevens before our first SB. I think it pushed up the Steeler D a couple of notches that day and always blame him for that.

Look at Sherman praising Aaron... that's what should of coming out of the mouth.

However, this comment by Bruce is a 1 on a scale of 10, but it's hard to not wish he'd just STFU, until after the game.

js

[Long Time Fan]

If you really believe that what Bruce Irvin had to say will play into how any Packer plays then you under-estimate the motivation of professional athletes. These guys are competitive by nature and it is their job. They just broke camp where they competed for the chance to play professional football. Nothing Irvin said will serve as further motivation. If anything, its a shout out to the fans to be louder with reason.

Otherwise you might as well pray that no one reminds the Packers of their last trip to Seattle.

[c_hawkbob]

C'mon you guys, you really think our team psyche is that fragile? We're dominant for a reason, a big part of which is our brashness and swagger! I don't care if it comes from the 53rd guy on the roster, ain't no silly jinx going to make what Pete and John hath built crumble.

[NorthHawk]

It's the first game of the season and on national TV so every player will be amped up for this game.
If I were Mebane, I would have a word with him because Mebane now has to live up to someone else's words.
It would be different if Irvin were talking about himself and his probable opponent.

[FolkCrusader]

Somehow, I don't think Brandon is worried about a sub 300 lb rookie but hey I could be wrong.

[Seahawks4Ever]

I am hoping this means Big Bruce is confident. He really needs to have that break out year if he wants that set for life big pay day that all players want. To finally get paid for all of that hard work since they were kids will be a dream come true, if he plays well.

[THX-1138]

C'mon you guys, you really think our team psyche is that fragile? We're dominant for a reason, a big part of which is our brashness and swagger! I don't care if it comes from the 53rd guy on the roster, ain't no silly jinx going to make what Pete and John hath built crumble.

It's not our team psyche that is in question here, though, it's the Packers, who are already gonna have a fire lit under their collective arses from the last time they were here. The term "bulletin board material" isn't something just made up for internet boards. And if you think that the NFL is made up of mentally stable individuals who don't allow trash talk to influence their game then I point you to exhibit A:

Richard Sherman.

*Upon edit, I do not mean to imply that RS is the unstable one, rather that his trash talk has caused other players to react. He is good enough to cash the checks his mouth writes. MY jury is still out on Irvin.

[Long Time Fan]

Bulletin Board material is largely a media driven fabrication. But if the Packers need that then goodness help them.

[NorthHawk]

Somehow, I don't think Brandon is worried about a sub 300 lb rookie but hey I could be wrong.

The new center isn't out there alone. The Guards will be helping out.
Mebane's a pro, but sometimes it's better to not acknowledge the obvious.

[THX-1138]

Not having ever played in the NFL I have no real idea if "bulletin board material" is a media fabrication or not. But I also don't poke a non-moving bear with a stick to see if it's dead or just asleep, either.

[HumanCockroach]

What's the issue? I don't see him talking any smack, or dissing anyone that is the difference between winning and losing, did he say Nelson or Rodgers were jokes? no, he said he is praying for that ROOKIE center in an enviroment that is insanely difficult for all pro veteran centers to excell in, in a situation that is going to be extremely difficult to deal with ( historically so), he said that they have to take advantage of the weakness' they have seen ( which is the same with every team, and player in the league)... these statement IMHO are akin to saying the sky is blue, or the grass is green. There is no insults I see in anything in that interview, no smack talk that I saw, he didn't for instance say the guy was m-e-d-i-o-c-r-e. or Sorry or anything, that is reserved for players that ARE, so what's the beef?

[mykc14]

What's the issue? I don't see him talking any smack, or dissing anyone that is the difference between winning and losing, did he say Nelson or Rodgers were jokes? no, he said he is praying for that ROOKIE center in an enviroment that is insanely difficult for all pro veteran centers to excell in, in a situation that is going to be extremely difficult to deal with ( historically so), he said that they have to take advantage of the weakness' they have seen ( which is the same with every team, and player in the league)... these statement IMHO are akin to saying the sky is blue, or the grass is green. There is no insults I see in anything in that interview, no smack talk that I saw, he didn't for instance say the guy was m-e-d-i-o-c-r-e. or Sorry or anything, that is reserved for players that ARE, so what's the beef?

To me Irvin, saying that the guy is showing obvious weaknesses is talking a little smack. I mean if the situation were reversed and we were playing a game at GB and one of their guys said that he would be praying for Britt because its going to be a long night. And that Britt has been showing some obvious weaknesses it has at least a little hint of smack, IMO. Rookie or not, he's calling a guy out when he didn't need to. Don't you think they see weaknesses in guys all the time on tape? This isn't something you hear a lot of guys say and coming from Irvin it just rubs me the wrong way a little. Do I really think it is going to have any impact on the game, no, but it also didn't help anything either.

[HumanCockroach]

And I guess there is a difference in how we view smack then. Personally, if Mathews said he saw weakness' in our rookie RT, it wouldn't cause me a moments pause, because he DOES have weakness' and a player saying so, is just a fact of being a rookie in the NFL. nothing more than calling a spade a spade.

[mykc14]

And I guess there is a difference in how we view smack then. Personally, if Mathews said he saw weakness' in our rookie RT, it wouldn't cause me a moments pause, because he DOES have weakness' and a player saying so, is just a fact of being a rookie in the NFL. nothing more than calling a spade a spade.

I don't disagree with that. To me the difference is Irvin isn't going head to head against this guy at all. If Sherm were to say a wide receiver he was going to face every play had weaknesses I wouldn't care that much, but to me Irvin talking about a guy he isn't going to line up against is where it is a little smack talk to me, again not a big deal, but to me it was like 'why are you saying this?'

[Futureite]

What's the issue? I don't see him talking any smack, or dissing anyone that is the difference between winning and losing, did he say Nelson or Rodgers were jokes? no, he said he is praying for that ROOKIE center in an enviroment that is insanely difficult for all pro veteran centers to excell in, in a situation that is going to be extremely difficult to deal with ( historically so), he said that they have to take advantage of the weakness' they have seen ( which is the same with every team, and player in the league)... these statement IMHO are akin to saying the sky is blue, or the grass is green. There is no insults I see in anything in that interview, no smack talk that I saw, he didn't for instance say the guy was m-e-d-i-o-c-r-e. or Sorry or anything, that is reserved for players that ARE, so what's the beef?

So in other words, he's talking s*** lol.

[HumanCockroach]

And I guess there is a difference in how we view smack then. Personally, if Mathews said he saw weakness' in our rookie RT, it wouldn't cause me a moments pause, because he DOES have weakness' and a player saying so, is just a fact of being a rookie in the NFL. nothing more than calling a spade a spade.

I don't disagree with that. To me the difference is Irvin isn't going head to head against this guy at all. If Sherm were to say a wide receiver he was going to face every play had weaknesses I wouldn't care that much, but to me Irvin talking about a guy he isn't going to line up against is where it is a little smack talk to me, again not a big deal, but to me it was like 'why are you saying this?'

Fair enough, though that unit ( the LB's ) will indeed be "playing against" him in both pass rush and run defense ( as I kind of doubt they attempt to have Rodgers adjust blocking schemes). Either way, I just don't see it as talking smack ( they actually discussed that during this interview, Irvin covered a pretty large amount of topics and spent about 1/50th of the time with this portion, of course, as always, that is the portion that is printed. God bless the media in the USA. LOL).

[HumanCockroach]

What's the issue? I don't see him talking any smack, or dissing anyone that is the difference between winning and losing, did he say Nelson or Rodgers were jokes? no, he said he is praying for that ROOKIE center in an enviroment that is insanely difficult for all pro veteran centers to excell in, in a situation that is going to be extremely difficult to deal with ( historically so), he said that they have to take advantage of the weakness' they have seen ( which is the same with every team, and player in the league)... these statement IMHO are akin to saying the sky is blue, or the grass is green. There is no insults I see in anything in that interview, no smack talk that I saw, he didn't for instance say the guy was m-e-d-i-o-c-r-e. or Sorry or anything, that is reserved for players that ARE, so what's the beef?

So in other words, he's talking s*** lol.

Only in your world.

[Distant Relative]

It is called getting in their head.

[Futureite]

It is called getting in their head.

In other words, talking s***.

[HumanCockroach]

Nah, it's genius like Phil Jackson, or some other irrelevant comparison.

[Hawktawk]

I'm on record as saying I dont like the jawing. We won in spite of it, not because of it. This is a damn good team coming to town, with one of the best coaches and QB's we have seen in a couple of years since the last time they were here. Its interesting that there isn't a lot of talk coming from Sherman that Ive heard. Irvin seems to be the only guy giving blackboard material.

This is a monumental game. It has humongous implications for both teams and could literally decide HFA in the NFC at the end of the season. I'm nervous about this game for a few reasons and I dont think GB needs any more motivation than they already have.

[Distant Relative]

Just something besides the game plan for them to think about. It was not egregious IMO.

Future..... Try playing in your own backyard.

[kalibane]

It wouldn't be football season if Seahawk fans weren't worrying too much about something someone said.

[monkey]

I'm on record as saying I dont like the jawing. We won in spite of it, not because of it.

I disagree...well partly.
Yes we won because of talent, BUT we also won because Pete allows the players on this team to be themselves, even when being yourself means talking trash.
The teams brashness, confidence and attitude was a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE part of why they won it all last season.
If you take away the swagger, the trash talking and the attitude, then this team doesn't win the Superbowl.
Just listen to the way Earl Thomas talks about the brashness and the confidence, (from which stems the trash talking), and you will quickly realize that it's all a part of this teams persona, and it is NOT something that we won in spite of!

[Hawktawk]

I'm on record as saying I dont like the jawing. We won in spite of it, not because of it.

I disagree...well partly.
Yes we won because of talent, BUT we also won because Pete allows the players on this team to be themselves, even when being yourself means talking trash.
The teams brashness, confidence and attitude was a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE part of why they won it all last season.
If you take away the swagger, the trash talking and the attitude, then this team doesn't win the Superbowl.
Just listen to the way Earl Thomas talks about the brashness and the confidence, (from which stems the trash talking), and you will quickly realize that it's all a part of this teams persona, and it is NOT something that we won in spite of!

OK fair enough maybe "in spite of" is too strong a statement. I will stand by this though. Theres enough talent on this team to win it all without saying a word.
Since Feb 2nd Seattle's players have done a lot of talking. Wags talking about how Denver was scared, Sherm saying the 9ers were the SB etc, just a lot of talk which is to be expected. To the victor go the spoils.

Well the time for talk is over. I hope they are yapping all year long if that's what it takes. But the Hawk block murderers row schedule kicks off in less than 24 hrs so we will see. I hope they are ready to be the hunted.

[HumanCockroach]

They were the hunted last year, nothing is changed. Seattle came into the season with MORE hype last year than this, not the other way around. More is being made about just about every other team than Seattle at this point Denver, NE, GB are all getting the pub. Seattle can handle being the hunted ( since they were all of last season) and personally, even though I know it is Seattle fans DNA it seems to be the "cinderella " story, fly under the radar surprise team, I want the "dynasty" perennial bullies for the next decade. Get used to it, they aren't going anywhere for a while ( and try to enjoy it, obviously it doesn't happen very often . )

[RiverDog]

This isn't locker room bulletin board stuff. I'd be surprised if more than half of the Green Bay players and more than 10% of their fans know who Bruce Irvin is. He isn't very visible. It must have been a really slow news day if the reporters were keyed in on something Bruce Irvin said.

[Agent 86]

I'm on record as saying I dont like the jawing. We won in spite of it, not because of it.

I disagree...well partly.
Yes we won because of talent, BUT we also won because Pete allows the players on this team to be themselves, even when being yourself means talking trash.
The teams brashness, confidence and attitude was a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE part of why they won it all last season.
If you take away the swagger, the trash talking and the attitude, then this team doesn't win the Superbowl.
Just listen to the way Earl Thomas talks about the brashness and the confidence, (from which stems the trash talking), and you will quickly realize that it's all a part of this teams persona, and it is NOT something that we won in spite of!

Totally agree..I just mentioned on the "Americas Game" thread about their brashness and confidence. Anyone who has played on a team sport has hopefully experienced a season of which you were a dominating force and the confidence and attitude you gain from it. I have been on both ends, a team that was dominant and knew it, and a team that was extremely fragile confidence wise.

Being on the former, it goes a long way towards winning. I wholeheartedly agree with the "HUGE HUGE HUGE" part Monkey, it was as big as that and what made them who they were.