ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!? Another NFL abuser

[burrrton]

I have no words:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... nce-charge

[NorthHawk]

And now Gloria Allred enters the picture with allegations about Brandon Marshall. Another lawyer who's the publicity equivalent of an ambulance chaser.
Things have really taken another step when celebrity lawyers enter the picture.

[burrrton]

Another lawyer who's the publicity equivalent of an ambulance chaser.

Yep.

[HumanCockroach]

Not sure what the play is here for her, but it seems to me, this is "back story" for the NFL's handling of a prior situation that was far more serious than a one time incident ( maybe?) With Rice. Marshall has had a history with multiple problems in regards to domestic abuse ( numerous known, and according to this article, many unknown by the public). IMO it's a valid question, does the NFL actually give a sh%t or is it really just damage control mode once again for the vaunted shield.

I'm notr in the least suggesting Marshall should be punished, or chastised from incidents that occured in 2007, just saying that the NFL is only remorseful now, and didn't give a flying F then.

[mykc14]

Well, you might as well add another one to the list. Johnathan Dwyer, Cards backup running back is trying to out due Rice and Pederson. He is accused of assaulting his girlfriend and 18 month old child. This just keeps getting worse for the NFL. It sounds like this piece of crap threw a shoe or something at his toddler and assaulted his girlfriends, causing a fracture.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11544 ... ed-assault

[jshawaii22]

Marshall's issue was 5 years ago... Miss Gloria is standing on a soapbox again, her normal position to get face time on TV.

js

[RiverDog]

Well, you might as well add another one to the list. Johnathan Dwyer, Cards backup running back is trying to out due Rice and Pederson. He is accused of assaulting his girlfriend and 18 month old child. This just keeps getting worse for the NFL. It sounds like this piece of crap threw a shoe or something at his toddler and assaulted his girlfriends, causing a fracture.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11544 ... ed-assault

He also supposedly tried to prevent them from calling 911, which I would imagine is a form of imprisonment.

The situation is officially out of control. Teams will be suspending players the instant their butts hit the back seat of the patrol car.

[c_hawkbob]

Causing a fracture ... dude's toast too.

[kalibane]

Really? Brandon Marshall?

They should be using Brandon Marshall as an example of a person doing the right thing in the wake of their own destructive behavior. His issues were well documented when they happened and occurred before he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. Borderline ain't no joke if you're not familiar.

He got help, is on medication and in constant therapy and is now a big advocate for mental illness. He's had no issues since.

Allred really needs to sit her ass down. This isn't shine the light on Gloria time.

[Uppercut]

I believe that the percentage of abusers in the NFL is probably not much different than any other group such as congress, lawyers, tv show hosts, sports writers, etc...I certainly do not condone this crap but I could certainly see where one team may want an advantage over another they have some disgruntled ex girlfriend or wife make some accusations and out they go prior to the game. Unless you are Jim Harbaugh and play them anyway. Just my opinion.

[HawkDawg]

I believe that the percentage of abusers in the NFL is probably not much different than any other group such as congress, lawyers, tv show hosts, sports writers, etc...I certainly do not condone this crap but I could certainly see where one team may want an advantage over another they have some disgruntled ex girlfriend or wife make some accusations and out they go prior to the game. Unless you are Jim Harbaugh and play them anyway. Just my opinion.

Any type of (public) job like this, you're living in a glass house. Within the NFL, the panes are getting thinner. I see this exposure as a good thing, especially when you have kids looking up to you as some sort of Super Hero...which many of them do. You're getting paid millions, learn how to set a flipping example within your 5-10 years of fame.

[Hawktawk]

I believe that the percentage of abusers in the NFL is probably not much different than any other group such as congress, lawyers, tv show hosts, sports writers, etc...I certainly do not condone this crap but I could certainly see where one team may want an advantage over another they have some disgruntled ex girlfriend or wife make some accusations and out they go prior to the game. Unless you are Jim Harbaugh and play them anyway. Just my opinion.

+1 The hysteria is out of control. But Goody has to take the blame. A real CEO would be managing this situation a lot better. It was the whipsaw back and forth process with Rice along with concealing the video that ignited the firestorm in the first place.

The NFL is a rudderless ship. I think I would manage it better and Id cost a lot less than 20 million per year.................If they are serious about their image they would hire Condi Rice. I don't think they are and I don,t think they will.

[burrrton]

The NFL is a rudderless ship. I think I would manage it better and Id cost a lot less than 20 million per year...

Isn't it 44M?

Either way, though, I don't think it's as easy as you imply to 'manage' a few thousand guys with their varied backgrounds. This isn't saying I think he made the right decisions at all times, but I think we severely overestimate how easy it is analyzing with hindsight.

And I think Condi would be a great choice to run it.

[RiverDog]

The hysteria is out of control. But Goody has to take the blame. A real CEO would be managing this situation a lot better. It was the whipsaw back and forth process with Rice along with concealing the video that ignited the firestorm in the first place.

The NFL is a rudderless ship. I think I would manage it better and Id cost a lot less than 20 million per year.................If they are serious about their image they would hire Condi Rice. I don't think they are and I don,t think they will.

IMO if they let Goodell go, they will not hire Condi Rice or any other recognizable outsider. As one poster put it, how are the owners going to fire someone like her? They will put someone in there that they know and are comfortable with. They will hire an insider, just as they have always done, perhaps even one of the owners like MLB did when they hired Bud Selig. The other professional sporting leagues are the same way. They all hire someone that they are very familiar with, that they have worked with over a number of years and trust implicitly to carry out their objective. Jones, Snyder, Mara, and the rest of the lot aren't going to put someone in there that they aren't intimately familiar with and know they can manipulate, or at the very least, run around like a maverick.

The NFL is not in any danger of losing fans. They have no competition, haven't since the merger. Television ratings are up and their popularity is unaffected by these recent scandals.

http://www.ktrh.com/articles/houston-ne ... h-12780403

They need not make any changes in their long term business plan nor do they need to go out on some crusade for the hearts and souls of their target audience. The product sells itself.

[rottweiler]

These stories are becoming so trite that they are making the NFL a very easily-contrived punchline to all kinds of really bad jokes.

For example:

• The Democratic senator concedes that at some point in his six-year term, he may have to introduce a bill that will raise taxes. In other news, the Pope is Catholic.
• Tom's green thumb notwithstanding, he and his wife never managed to grow as much as a single tomato in their Arizona getaway home. In other news, a dog has fleas.
• He loved the money he made working in the coal mine, but he knew the job wasn't helping his respiratory system. In other news, an NFL star was arrested today on multiple charges including felony assault for his having allegedly beaten his girlfriend.

Thanks a bunch, NFL!!!

Because of your little Lord of the Flies schtick highlighting how any place that is home to any kind of people—including, or especially people with seven-figure salaries—can become a sheer jungle devoid of any notion of law and order, you are making the use of trite expressions fun again.

By continuing to showcase your employees' getting arrested every 10 to 15 minutes anymore and whatnot, you are effectively systematically giving those of us who love creative writing all sorts of material with which to work.

Props, NFL — and more to a specific point, Mr. Roger Goodell.

[Futureite]

River;

Even a month ago I'd have agreed with you about the NFL not losing fans. I have been a fan for 35 yrs, and a passionate one. I played for 8 yrs. I have never had the level of near disinterest in NFL football that I have now. I am shocking myself. Here are my reasons why:

(1) The NFL use to be an escape from life's problems. Between Aldon, Rice, Dwyer etc life's problens are forced into my face. It is not the escape it once was.

(2) The media does not report news - they create storylines that generate public interest and search for information that supports the storyline. I use to live reading about matchups, strategy, etc. Now articles are focused on incindiary quotes or any number of players who self promote. Blog boards, reality shows (eg Hard Knicks) and Twitter wars are discussed as much if not more than the games.

I do believe the NFL has some risk of losing fans and sponsorship if it doesn't clean up its act. The whole package from the players down to the media is beginning to resemble a Jerry Springer episode. For the first time ever I considered taking a road trip on Sunday instead of watching the 49ers.

[NorthHawk]

ESPN is now asking tough questions about what went on with the NFL investigation as well as with the Ravens.
When even the paying providers start to question the impartiality of the investigator (Mueller), we can see this whole thing start to slide outside of the NFL front office control.
Perhaps Cuban was a soothseer when he talked about the NFL not staying on top even if it was from a different reason than he envisioned or suggested.

[RiverDog]

ESPN is now asking tough questions about what went on with the NFL investigation as well as with the Ravens.
When even the paying providers start to question the impartiality of the investigator (Mueller), we can see this whole thing start to slide outside of the NFL front office control.
Perhaps Cuban was a soothseer when he talked about the NFL not staying on top even if it was from a different reason than he envisioned or suggested.

This isn't a threat to cause any long term damage to the sport ala baseball's Black Sox scandal. The game will continue to sell itself regardless of a handful of misbehaving players.

Here's an article that address the NFL's popularity:

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/09/15/ray-ri ... eo-fallout

[NorthHawk]

Perhaps not, but it might mean changes at the top aren't far off.

[HumanCockroach]

Not to go completely off topic, but did anyone else catch the tweet Adam Sandler ( or maybe it was instagram?) About the percentage of criminal acts by NFL or NBA players ? Pretty good way to put things in perspective ( not excusing the NFL players or NBA players here) at the end the punchline was it was neither the NFL or NBA but the 535 senators, and the percentage was obscene. The problems with this stuff extends far beyond the NFL, or NBA or professional sports in this society, it doesn't excuse what these guys are doing, just clarifies that this isn't some "unique" NFL issue.

[burrrton]

You're not talking about the one that was shown to be completely made up, are you, HC?

[HumanCockroach]

Have no idea, it was on ESPN's home page earlier today. I don't know if it was made up, I would think with how ESPN has been running with this ( anti NFL) that they wouldn't, but it is certainly possible.

[RiverDog]

Not to go completely off topic, but did anyone else catch the tweet Adam Sandler ( or maybe it was instagram?) About the percentage of criminal acts by NFL or NBA players ? Pretty good way to put things in perspective ( not excusing the NFL players or NBA players here) at the end the punchline was it was neither the NFL or NBA but the 535 senators, and the percentage was obscene. The problems with this stuff extends far beyond the NFL, or NBA or professional sports in this society, it doesn't excuse what these guys are doing, just clarifies that this isn't some "unique" NFL issue.

I've heard that for years, but there isn't a good, credible source worth posting. If it were true, you'd think that one of the major news organizations would run an article on it as it's a very provocative claim. It shouldn't be too hard to check up on as it's all public information. I would like to see a comparison between players in major league sports and other segments of society to get an idea of the scope of the problem the NFL is dealing with. One thing I do know is that my company terminates without appeal anyone convicted of a felony crime, and we don't give LOA's for someone that gets thrown in jail. It's considered an unexcused absence, of which the tolerance is two in a year.

Oh, and by the way, HC, it's a small point, but you're referring to Congress, which includes 435 Congressmen and 100 Senators. Not trying to be a smart arse, just setting the record straight.

[HumanCockroach]

OK, wasn't positive on what the 535 number was. Didn't come across as smart arse, it was just something I saw as I was checking a sports sight and I found it interesting considering everything going on. Like I said it might indeed be false, I'm not going to go on a fact checking expedition for something like that, though I do think that we do indeed "hear" it, it just is so slanted one way or the other that news stations don't report the entire scope they focus on one party or the other, and then run with it for a while. Could be wrong about that as well, like I said, not going to spend hours figuring it out.