Paying the Piper For Bad Draft and Player Aquisitions

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Paying the Piper For Bad Draft and Player Aquisitions

Postby Seahawks4Ever » Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:36 pm

OK, me and a few others have harped over the years that there would be a price to pay for poor player acquisition decisions. First of all, it has been great that they have dug out gold nuggets from the middle to bottom of the draft and with UDFA's. A huge pat on the back for that.

But, you expect that your 1st. through your 3rd. round draft picks will be making significant contributions to the team. If they are not why are they still on the team or effed up in some cases starting???

They gave up a 1st. 3rd. and 7th. round draft choice for Percy Harvin who STILL HAD A FEW YEARS ON HIS CONTRACT! But, what do they do? Do they make PH earn a new better contract?? Nope! They tore his old one up and then threw all kinds of guaranteed money at him. What happened next? Percy informs the team he needs to have surgery on his hip and probably won't be able to play until the Minnesota game (go figure). Why oh why didn't Harvin have this surgery back in February??? Oh, and IF the Seahawks hadn't have given him a new contract he would have either toughed it out or he would have had the surgery earlier.

Oh, and HOW DOES PERCY HARVIN EVEN PASS HIS PHYSICAL WITH THAT BAD HIP?????????????????? The Seahawk team doctors already messed up when they passed Sydney Rice's physical when he needed 22 (11 in each shoulder) anchors in his shoulder??? These Seahawk team doctors need to be replaced if they are that inept.

Then there are draft picks like C.M. that are only today getting significant playing time. It turns out that our Seahawks have had nothing but problems with Harvin going all the way back before the Super Bowl, why oh why didn't they get rid of him before the draft?? Our new receivers could have been playing long before now.

Just think, all of the money we have wasted on Percy Harvin could have been used to resign McDonald, Bryant, Clemons, and Tate. Maybe not all 4 but maybe 2 or 3 out of the 4. Now, there is going to be significant dead cap space just when we need to give Russell Wilson his big pay day.

Oh, and K.J. Wright and I believe Bobby Wagner and Bruce Irvin will want some big dough too. To those who say that the thinking going in to the trade to aquire Harvin was "sound" I say you are trying to put lip stick on a pig. there was nothing about that trade that was sound, cap wise, chemistry wise, production wise.

The draft picks we wasted on the acquisitions of Harvin & Rice could have used to draft some better offensive linemen, but you can't use what you unwisely gave away.

It HAS caught up to our Seahawks, and you know what? If Harvin would have been more available last season we might not have gone to and won the Super Bowl!

Several steps need to be taken or we are going to watch the wheels come off this team faster than they did after SBXL;

1. Darrell Bevell has to be replaced. His play calling is unimaginative and too predictable. He has to be accountable for his part in bringing in Rice and Harvin.

2. Our lines, both offensive and defensive need an infusion of talent and upgrading.

3.Pete Carroll has to seriously lower the amount of penalties, especially the ones that kill offensive drives.

I am sure that there are more changes that need to be made but those really stick out to me. R.D. has rightfully been relentless in pointing out how for all of his talk Pete has not reduced the amount of penalties the team gets flagged for season after season.
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Re: Paying the Piper For Bad Draft and Player Aquisitions

Postby monkey » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:36 pm

So...basically what you said is that you expect the Seahawks to hit on every pick and every trade. Gotcha.
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Re: Paying the Piper For Bad Draft and Player Aquisitions

Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:35 pm

Lot of that Monkey. Nature of the beast.
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Re: Paying the Piper For Bad Draft and Player Aquisitions

Postby RiverDog » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:15 am

I'm not going to go to the same degree that our friend S4E has, but there's no doubt that we will....or rather are...paying for the ill advised Harvin trade. The lack of money hampered our negotiations with Golden Tate, and having Harvin on the roster gave us the confidence to let Tate go. It sure would have been nice having Golden Tate returning punts yesterday rather than Walters. Tate was a gamer and really took a pounding. And giving up a 1st and a 3rd is a really big deal. You have to think that at least one of those picks would have turned out to be a significant contributor. They wouldn't have missed on both. We won't know the total impact of the Harvin debacle for at least a year or two. Much depends on how the team responds this season. Yesterday's results didn't help matters.

The Harvin trade doesn't trump all of the really great personnel acquisitions that PC and JS have made over the past 5 years, but it does take a considerable amount of shine off them, especially one where the warning signs were so evident. You can give him a pass on draft choices that don't pan out. Everybody misses on their fair share. But the Harvin trade is a totally different matter. Harvin was a problem everywhere he went, and Pete's thinking that all he had to do was sprinkle a little Pete magic over him would turn his soul was incredibly naïve. Now he's put himself in a position of having to mend fences, heal the self inflicted wounds he caused to our team by bringing in Harvin then having to get rid of him in mid season when the inevitable finally happened, and it could cost us the season and hamper our ability to remain relevant for the next few years if he's not successful in doing so.

"But at least we got our Lombardi!", some will say. The problem is that I want more.
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Re: Paying the Piper For Bad Draft and Player Aquisitions

Postby briwas101 » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:45 am

It feels like only yesterday that I was being called an idiot for saying that the harvin trade will seriously hurt us down the road.

All those draft picks, all that money, wasted on a player who didn't do s*** for us and put up HORRIBLE numbers for someone being paid the way he is. Although in fairness he's only making that because Pete and John agreed to give it to him....

I said it would cost us players and the typical response was "we can afford to keep the guys we need or want".

Well, Bryant at a reduced salary and Tate at a small discount to what he got from Detroit sure sounds like players we need/want. I was wanting to move on from Bryant, but if I had a choice between Bryant or Harvin I would've chosen red in a heartbeat.

We made it to the super bowl and easily win by 25+ points even if harvin sits on the bench. The harvin trade did nothing to change the outcome of anything last season, but the trade pretty much killed our chances of repeating.

I was disgusted when people kept saying things like "we have cap space and we can afford this luxury because pete and john are so good".

DOES IT LOOK LIKE WE EASILY AFFORDED THAT PIECE OF s*** NOW???

The harvin trade set in motion all the s*** we see now. People like me warned everyone that it would turn out to be the worst trade in Hawks history.

There is no such thing as being so good that you can get away with HORRIBLE trades unscathed. In the salary cap era and with the parity in the NFL, EVERY horrible move is felt.
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