Distant Relative wrote:I think what the Hawks need to do is just straight up hammer the WR's that like to run pick plays on the DB's. Bring the safety's up and put those WR's trying to run a pick play on their back within the five yard no contact zone! Welker is a must in terms of putting on his back!
Hawkstar wrote:Distant Relative wrote:I think what the Hawks need to do is just straight up hammer the WR's that like to run pick plays on the DB's. Bring the safety's up and put those WR's trying to run a pick play on their back within the five yard no contact zone! Welker is a must in terms of putting on his back!
Remember when Welker met Mr Browner?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk7BL3V5KhA We need a ton more of that. I would like to see Welker try to "rub" off Kam on his "legal" little pick play. Might be his last play in the NFL...
burrrton wrote:Hawkstar wrote:Distant Relative wrote:I think what the Hawks need to do is just straight up hammer the WR's that like to run pick plays on the DB's. Bring the safety's up and put those WR's trying to run a pick play on their back within the five yard no contact zone! Welker is a must in terms of putting on his back!
Remember when Welker met Mr Browner?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk7BL3V5KhA We need a ton more of that. I would like to see Welker try to "rub" off Kam on his "legal" little pick play. Might be his last play in the NFL...
Holy sht. I had forgotten about that one.
You know what stands out about Kam now (and probably other big hitters in the NFL, but I don't watch them), is how disciplined he is about making his hit legal- gets his hat out of the way, uses his shoulder, etc.
The fckstick for the Saints should get a Kam highlights tape and study it.
EntiatHawk wrote:I think the single biggest key to the game is how much pressure we can generate on Manning. If we can get to him with 4 man and some timely blitzes I think we will do very well in this game. Messing his timing up will be crucial. I really like our chances as the boys will be amped to go get him.
Hawkstar wrote:Distant Relative wrote:I think what the Hawks need to do is just straight up hammer the WR's that like to run pick plays on the DB's. Bring the safety's up and put those WR's trying to run a pick play on their back within the five yard no contact zone! Welker is a must in terms of putting on his back!
Remember when Welker met Mr Browner?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk7BL3V5KhA We need a ton more of that. I would like to see Welker try to "rub" off Kam on his "legal" little pick play. Might be his last play in the NFL...
Don't get me wrong, they can hit, they're "tough" I guess, they've played "tough teams (man I almost could quite type those words, my fingers didn't want to tell what they obviously consider a huge lie), but they haven't seen ANYTHING like what they're about to see from a physical standpoint.
burrrton wrote:Don't get me wrong, they can hit, they're "tough" I guess, they've played "tough teams (man I almost could quite type those words, my fingers didn't want to tell what they obviously consider a huge lie), but they haven't seen ANYTHING like what they're about to see from a physical standpoint.
Yeah, it usually boils down to matchups, but I just read somewhere that they only faced 4 defenses in the top half of the league *all year*, the best being HOU at #7.
Nobody should doubt the potency of their offense, but they're going to be seeing an *entirely* different animal a week from tomorrow. Will they be able to create and/or exploit favorable matchups? I don't know, but I like our chances.
burrrton wrote:Don't get me wrong, they can hit, they're "tough" I guess, they've played "tough teams (man I almost could quite type those words, my fingers didn't want to tell what they obviously consider a huge lie), but they haven't seen ANYTHING like what they're about to see from a physical standpoint.
Yeah, it usually boils down to matchups, but I just read somewhere that they only faced 4 defenses in the top half of the league *all year*, the best being HOU at #7.
Nobody should doubt the potency of their offense, but they're going to be seeing an *entirely* different animal a week from tomorrow. Will they be able to create and/or exploit favorable matchups? I don't know, but I like our chances.
RiverDog wrote: Hell, no wonder our offense has been lethargic.
monkey wrote:EXACTLY!!! That and the fact that I think that Wilson has been more careful with the ball than he ever has in his professional career to this point.
He's not making throws he normally would make because he is not taking ANY chances.
I do think, however, that with the addition of Harvin, and with the fact that no longer is it, win to keep playing, but now it's WIN and you're the champion, I think he'll loosen up and play more like we're used to seeing him.
In fact, I predict that the Broncos will sell out to stop Lynch (they have to or they've already lost the game badly!!!) and in the process will leave several huge plays open for Wilson, resulting in Wilson passing for MORE YARDS AND TOUCHDOWNS than Peyton Manning! With HArvin playing, the Broncos will just have too much to worry about, (stopping Lynch, stopping Harvin) and it will be mostly Doug Baldwin who is the recipient of Wilson's big game, going for over 100 yards and at least one touchdown.
That is my prediction.
Russell Wilson, Superbowl MVP, and the talk of the entire nation.
We all KNOW he's capable, he's done it before time and time again.
monkey wrote:RiverDog wrote: Hell, no wonder our offense has been lethargic.
EXACTLY!!! That and the fact that I think that Wilson has been more careful with the ball than he ever has in his professional career to this point.
He's not making throws he normally would make because he is not taking ANY chances.
I do think, however, that with the addition of Harvin, and with the fact that no longer is it, win to keep playing, but now it's WIN and you're the champion, I think he'll loosen up and play more like we're used to seeing him.
In fact, I predict that the Broncos will sell out to stop Lynch (they have to or they've already lost the game badly!!!) and in the process will leave several huge plays open for Wilson, resulting in Wilson passing for MORE YARDS AND TOUCHDOWNS than Peyton Manning! With HArvin playing, the Broncos will just have too much to worry about, (stopping Lynch, stopping Harvin) and it will be mostly Doug Baldwin who is the recipient of Wilson's big game, going for over 100 yards and at least one touchdown.
That is my prediction.
Russell Wilson, Superbowl MVP, and the talk of the entire nation.
We all KNOW he's capable, he's done it before time and time again.
EntiatHawk wrote:Timely leg cramps can always help with a little hurry up
Eaglehawk wrote:
Now hurrying him is very possible, with our 4 man rushes. Very possible. You can bet Quinn has some packages to throw at Manning that he's never seen before.
Defense will have to ignore everything they hear from Manning so he doesn't trick them with the hard count and give himself free plays down the field.
He is the smartest qb in the game. The Seahawks D will have to play at a very high level to win this one.
And yes, keeping him on the sidelines, is part of the equation.
savvyman wrote:Seahawks have been a little too reluctant to dial up blitzes in my opinion during the second half of the year.
For the few times they have the blitzes were very successful.
I don't understand the reluctance - we have the best man coverage team in the NFL. They can keep everyone covered for the first 3 seconds.
The key to stopping Manning is obvious - pressure - - If Manning has time to be comfortable in the pocket then forget it - game to Bronco's.
Yes start our with four man pass rush - but if the four man rush is not able to put pressure on Manning and he is able to go through his reads then the Hawks had better start sending a fifth rusher immediately - and not wait until Manning has marched the team down the field a couple times they are down 14 points - like they have in the past.
I have to agree with savvy on this, even a well rotated 4 man base rush, with WR's consistently pressured/covered won't be enough. PM has too many weapons at his disposal and if he finds a pocket comfort zone with early drives, TD, FG or punt, it won't be good. We only blitzed CK like 3 times, Quinn needs to dial something up with Irvin, M. Smith or Wagner more than most envision he will. That orange jersey draped on that classic statue doesn't mean "no contact" and once PM gets effectively pressured, the greatest of all time shows a hint of paper tiger. That's when the whobbly ducks come.
On the O-side, I really think a more explosive aerial attack is in order complimented by Miller & Willson.
If we get good field position from a punt of turnover, I think going downfield on 1st down could be big.
Everyone is talking strength on strength, But I think our offense has an advantage over the Donkey D, if Bevell unleashes it.
I know, playing straight-up and win like we've been doing is likely the gameplan, the safe route. But with ramped up play calling from Bevell/Quinn the Seahawks could just take this thing and run away with it.
Ideally the blitzes that should work best will be to send Wagner & Irvin up the Middle to help collapse the pocket and force Manning to the edges which will be known as the kill zone for him.
The Key to winning this game is simple - get pressure on Manning - we do and its game over. However if we play coverage defense and Manning has time to set up and go through reads then he will beat any team in the NFL.
I hope in the Superbowl the Seahawks will not be reluctant to dial up the blitz or wait until they are down two scores before they send pressure.
If the team were to compile a tape of each time they sent a fifth man this year they would see a pattern of overwhelming success - including several interceptions - and very few times when the offense beat the hawks on blitz plays.
Our back six can stay with any group of receivers in Man coverage - with Earl being able to play safety net - so I hope the game plan will include a heavy dose of rushing a fifth man if our four man rush is proving inconsistent with getting pressure on Manning - and that the Hawks will start utilizing the blitz immediately if the 4 man rush is unsuccessful in collapsing the pocket.
Long Time Fan wrote:Eaglehawk wrote:
Now hurrying him is very possible, with our 4 man rushes. Very possible. You can bet Quinn has some packages to throw at Manning that he's never seen before.
Defense will have to ignore everything they hear from Manning so he doesn't trick them with the hard count and give himself free plays down the field.
He is the smartest qb in the game. The Seahawks D will have to play at a very high level to win this one.
And yes, keeping him on the sidelines, is part of the equation.
Disagree and agree.
Quinn has nothing new for Manning to see. Manning has seen it all and has ideas about beating every scheme. I like our "nothing new, base defense" approach. Let's do what we do best and see if Manning can beat it; Consistently. Because Manning fears pressure he will run short routes allowing for quick reads and releases. This will necessitate short yardage multi-sets of downs drives. We don't need every drive to be three and out, but we do need to limit 3rd down conversions.
I do agree that our defense will have to play at a high level and be opportunistic (turnovers and third down stops).
Like the phrase that has become a parody of itself; We can't stop him, we can only hope to contain him.
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