You were saying Future?

[HumanCockroach]

Just thought I would give you your own space to explain the Nightmare that Manning would become if Lynch wasn't huge out of the gate, or the Seahawks defense wasn't as good as the Ravens, or how if this defense or that defense couldn't shut down this offense, no way Seattle could shut down the BEST offense in NFL history, how did the Hawks do with that "x" on their backs? Plenty of other things to clarify, but as I said, they continue to prove you wrong, and did so today in a HUGE way.

As Sherman said so eloquently in week two " you all called this a match up...... MISMATCH"...

[Hawk Sista]

¿Donde esta?

[kalibane]

lulz

[briwas101]

I don't know if the Hawks defense is the best in NFL history but it sure is close.

What i can say with 100% confidence is that we have the best secondary in NFL history.

Sign another big DL that wants to take less money on the FA market to win a ring and we just might have the best defense in history.

[RiverDog]

I don't know if the Hawks defense is the best in NFL history but it sure is close.

What i can say with 100% confidence is that we have the best secondary in NFL history.

Sign another big DL that wants to take less money on the FA market to win a ring and we just might have the best defense in history.

That defense has to rank right up there with the 1985 Bears and the 2000 Ravens for the modern day and comparable to Pittsburgh's Steel Curtain, Miami's No Name Defense, and Minnesota's Purple People Eaters for pre-1980's. Without a doubt the best in a decade.

[Oly]

I don't know if the Hawks defense is the best in NFL history but it sure is close.

What i can say with 100% confidence is that we have the best secondary in NFL history.

Sign another big DL that wants to take less money on the FA market to win a ring and we just might have the best defense in history.

That defense has to rank right up there with the 1985 Bears and the 2000 Ravens for the modern day and comparable to Pittsburgh's Steel Curtain, Miami's No Name Defense, and Minnesota's Purple People Eaters for pre-1980's. Without a doubt the best in a decade.

If they can sustain this--and I think they can given the youth and the guys assembling this team--I think you have to start moving beyond the comparisons of specific years to the Steel Curtain and the 80's Bears, the best defensive legacies in the game. But those are conversations for the offseason. Right now, I'm just enjoying the moment!

[Seahawks4Ever]

In SB 48 our Seattle Seahawk defense went up against the greatest offense in NFL history and held them to 8 points, that's single digits. The 85 Bears didn't go up against a record setting offense and hold that offense to single digits. None of the great Steeler defenses ever go up against a Super Bowl opponent (though Dallas was close in 1979) who had a NFL record setting offense and hold it to single digits AND score 36 UNANSWERED points to start the game. The 2000 TB defense didn't go up against an opponent that had scored the most points in NFL history and then hold that defense to single digits! If the official hadn't thrown that P-I flag for "face guarding" on a pass that was uncatchable this game would have ended 43-0!!!

In context of the Super Bowl, TODAY, our Seattle Seahawks had the greatest defense in history.

[I-5]

I like what Sherman said after the game: 'we don't care where you rank us (vs the Steel Curtain, '85 Bears, etc), we just want to be sure to be in that conversation from now on'....AMEN

[Eaglehawk]

That I have seen.
The 85 Bears had the best defense.
The Steel Curtain, I don't remember I was too young sorry.

But that's it.


No need to argue any further. In my mind our d is #2. That's right #2. For others and for the record maybe number 3. But certainly top 5. This defense is better than the 2000 Ravens hands down.

[briwas101]

You guys bring up great points about legacy.

It is really hard to look at a specific season and say "best ever" but when you talk about overall legacy then it becomes a little easier.

They are definitely in the conversation, and if they dominate for several more years then I see now reason why they can't be best ever.

[Zorn76]

LOL, ah, man.

People are just lining up around the block to get at this guy, ha.

In his defense, somewhere in another thread (game one?) he did say we'd win by 10 or so.

Anyway, it is what it is.

I'm just happy we're Super Bowl Champions!!!

[RiverDog]

I like what Sherman said after the game: 'we don't care where you rank us (vs the Steel Curtain, '85 Bears, etc), we just want to be sure to be in that conversation from now on'....AMEN

The '85 Bears and '00 Ravens were one hit wonders, and IMO we're already their equals. What will or won't separate us from them is if we are able to bring home another Lombardi, something they didn't do. Getting to the Steel Curtain/No Names, et al standard is going to be extremely difficult in today's age of free agency and the salary cap and will require two or three more Lombardi's over the next 5-6 years. The challenge will be in keeping our core intact while finding adequate replacements for those we can't keep and do it while picking the fruit from the bottom rung on the ladder.

[burrrton]

Kaepernick must be taking this hard...

"Go Peyton!" -Colin Kaepernick

[I-5]

I like what Sherman said after the game: 'we don't care where you rank us (vs the Steel Curtain, '85 Bears, etc), we just want to be sure to be in that conversation from now on'....AMEN

The '85 Bears and '00 Ravens were one hit wonders, and IMO we're already their equals. What will or won't separate us from them is if we are able to bring home another Lombardi, something they didn't do. Getting to the Steel Curtain/No Names, et al standard is going to be extremely difficult in today's age of free agency and the salary cap and will require two or three more Lombardi's over the next 5-6 years. The challenge will be in keeping our core intact while finding adequate replacements for those we can't keep and do it while picking the fruit from the bottom rung on the ladder.

Agreed...you didn't even mention the factor of the NFL rules being much more geared to the offense's advantage, which would have greatly affected the 85 Bears and others. Our defense has been playing lights out FUNDAMENTALS since the last 3rd of the regular season. I think the players are showing the self-awareness and maturity it will take to build on the legacy. Thomas and Chancellor are the leaders, and you know they're not messing around.

[Futureite]

In case you missed it, I posted in reply to you "You were right, I was wrong. To shut down the best offense in history proves how dominant your D is. Congrats on the big win!"

That was my re: to you on SB Sunday, almost verbatim. I do not believe my post was illogical prior to that though, as they had given up an average of 350 yds and 16 pts per game in the postseason, and you were comparing them to the 2000 Ravens who gave up 200 yds per game and didn't surrender a single TD in 4 postseason games. I, like most people, felt the Broncos would put up some points. We were all wrong.

The score I predicted on this board preceding the SB was Hawks 36 Broncos 21. I am not nostradomus lol. The "Peyton will be a nightmare" comment was predicated on Seattle O going 3 and out consistently, which as I posted I did not believe would happen. Turns out Seattle O held the ball for 12 min in the 1st qtr. But even if that hadn't happened, I still would have been wrong. That was one of the great D performances in SB history, for sure.

[Futureite]

LOL, ah, man.

People are just lining up around the block to get at this guy, ha.

In his defense, somewhere in another thread (game one?) he did say we'd win by 10 or so.

Anyway, it is what it is.

I'm just happy we're Super Bowl Champions!!!

Lol! Were they? I haven't really looked yet. But that's to be expected when you win a SB. I'd probably do the same thing.

[HumanCockroach]

In case you missed it, I posted in reply to you "You were right, I was wrong. To shut down the best offense in history proves how dominant your D is. Congrats on the big win!"

That was my re: to you on SB Sunday, almost verbatim. I do not believe my post was illogical prior to that though, as they had given up an average of 350 yds and 16 pts per game in the postseason, and you were comparing them to the 2000 Ravens who gave up 200 yds per game and didn't surrender a single TD in 4 postseason games. I, like most people, felt the Broncos would put up some points. We were all wrong.

The score I predicted on this board preceding the SB was Hawks 36 Broncos 21. I am not nostradomus lol. The "Peyton will be a nightmare" comment was predicated on Seattle O going 3 and out consistently, which as I posted I did not believe would happen. Turns out Seattle O held the ball for 12 min in the 1st qtr. But even if that hadn't happened, I still would have been wrong. That was one of the great D performances in SB history, for sure.

I know, and I responded in that thread, and appreciated the olive branch you extended. Not a lot of people believed it would end up like that ( i predicted 33-24 with a garbage TD from Denver) so while I was confident it would be a comfortable win, I was not expecting a rape either.

One of the things I found telling about the game, and just how deep these Seahawks are/were was that MANY backups got not just a little time on ST and such, but significant minutes early in the game, guys I hadn't seen on the field in months were out there when the game was still close. It surprised me to be honest.

[Futureite]

In case you missed it, I posted in reply to you "You were right, I was wrong. To shut down the best offense in history proves how dominant your D is. Congrats on the big win!"

That was my re: to you on SB Sunday, almost verbatim. I do not believe my post was illogical prior to that though, as they had given up an average of 350 yds and 16 pts per game in the postseason, and you were comparing them to the 2000 Ravens who gave up 200 yds per game and didn't surrender a single TD in 4 postseason games. I, like most people, felt the Broncos would put up some points. We were all wrong.

The score I predicted on this board preceding the SB was Hawks 36 Broncos 21. I am not nostradomus lol. The "Peyton will be a nightmare" comment was predicated on Seattle O going 3 and out consistently, which as I posted I did not believe would happen. Turns out Seattle O held the ball for 12 min in the 1st qtr. But even if that hadn't happened, I still would have been wrong. That was one of the great D performances in SB history, for sure.

I know, and I responded in that thread, and appreciated the olive branch you extended. Not a lot of people believed it would end up like that ( i predicted 33-24 with a garbage TD from Denver) so while I was confident it would be a comfortable win, I was not expecting a rape either.

One of the things I found telling about the game, and just how deep these Seahawks are/were was that MANY backups got not just a little time on ST and such, but significant minutes early in the game, guys I hadn't seen on the field in months were out there when the game was still close. It surprised me to be honest.

Yes, they are very deep. I knew before the game that Broncos could not match up physically. If you remember, after the Thurs Night game in 2011 that I watched at the Stick I posted that the Hawks looked like a lot like the early 90's Cowboys. Even in warm ups, you could see from the naked eye that they were bigger, more physical and athletic than other opposing teams I watched. In their blue, they reminfed me of the early 90's Cowboys. I thought they had the foundation in place at that time (lol of course everyone thought I was offering disengenuous praise because we won), and it turns out they did.

Yes, as good as the Hawks were, the Broncos played possibly the poorest game ever in the SB. If they do not snap the ball over manning's head and Moreno just attempts to bat the Smith pick down, maybe it's 13-0 or 13-3 going into half, and the game is just a little closer to being a game. But either way, they weren't going to win. They were thoroughly dominated in every phase, and that is quite impressive in this day and age.

[Futureite]

Lol and "rape" is probably the best description of what happened there.