niners fans talking conspiracy

[rottweiler]

... by the NFL, to give the Seahawks the NFC Championship game.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/detailed-look-49ers-seahawks-conspiracy-video?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

LOL.

[HumanCockroach]

LOL. What a band of idiots. I would respond, but what's the point? None of them know a damn thing about football. The whole 3 years ago you didn't have a fan base thing is starting to wear thin though, hearing it from Denver, Niner, hell even BROWNS fans are making those claims. Are they really that ignorant? I mean did they not see the noise when Seattle was winning division after division? Didn't Denver hate playing in the Dome? WTF. Hell there are still idiots complaining we "cheat" because it is loud. WTF is wrong with these morons?

Just reaffirms a hatred I have had for their ignorance for years ( even BEFORE we regularly stomped them after joining the division).

Just don't grasp how you can be arrogantly ignorant....

[monkey]

The funniest part of this conspiracy theory is, clearly they haven't thought it all the way through, they haven't really thought what it would mean if this was true.
See Kaepernick gave up three turnovers in the fourth quarter, one fumble and two picks, and then finished the game by throwing a stupid pass that got tipped by Sherman.
Meaning....if there really was a fix, then Kaepernick was IN ON IT, because the "inches they took away to keep Seattle in it" were nowhere near enough to offset THREE turnovers!
He'd have had to be on the take. He'd have needed to take a dive for it to work.
Something tells me these Niners fans didn't intend to go there! Something tells me they were not trying to implicate their own damn quarterback...but that's what would have had to have happened for the theory to be true.

Leave it to Niners fans to not put this obvious conclusion together before coming up with a ludicrous conspiracy theory.
Damn these people are dumb!

[Zorn76]

It's crap, and at leat the author of the aticle (I didn't see a name anywhere, maybe I missed it) closes with the following:

"Ultimately, the video in question had too many baseless claims, inaccuracies and hyperbole to be taken too seriously. But if the intent was to get people talking again about the game that Sherman said featured the two best teams in the NFL, it was successful."


EDIT: The league would've preferred a 49er/Denver SB to begin with, given that the ratings likely would've been even better, despite the fact that Sunday's game set yet another record for a viewing audience. The kooks behind the vid don't even consider that, among other things.

Lastly - I live her in Ninerville, CA and, really, the biggest gripe is that SF blew their chance at trophy #6, since they stood a good shot at beating the Broncos as well. On that, I more or less agree, since the better team was gonna come from our conference, and it did:)

[obiken]

Please. Tell the 40whiners we don't want to hear it. After SB 40 and what we endured they can suffer.
As John Brodie once said: "we got the skins on the wall" and its ours till next year, then they get to take on the DEFENDING Champions.

obi

[Uppercut]

It would be icing on the cake to go down and beat em badly in their new stadium! BTW I have a friend who works for a company tearing out the seats and stuff at Candlestick, he says the seats are on sale to season ticket holders but says he heard not alot of takers. I need to buy a row and put em in my yard with Hawks stickers on them.

[Futureite]

Haha I expect better of you Rott. Niner fans talking conspiracy? That was one idiot. Every single fanbase has a handful of theaw type of people. Look at the responses to the video that was posted. I haven't spoken to one fan that has mentioned the refs or betind that has not given props to Seattle. The most common complaint ref wise is that if the Bres call is made correctly, we have homefield advantage. But I don't even hear that much.

Parade today, celebration for a couple weeks, and then the cycle starts again. Draft, FA period, I hate you you guys suck this is our yr (from 32 fanbases), repeat. Meanwhile I am still at the cubicle lol. And will be for the entire offseason .

[kalibane]

you must not visit any Niner forums or facebook groups then. I always thought the fortywhiners name was lame, then I joined a facebook group. My god the level of butt hurt and complaining about refs in the NFCCC is off the charts.

[Seahawker]

[quote=" That was one idiot. Every single fanbase has a handful of theaw type of people. .[/quote]


Yeah futureite, you're living proof.

[Long Time Fan]

The beautiful thing about winning is not giving a rats ass what the 49ers think. Wait, I never gave a rat's ass about their opinion. Ever.

[Futureite]

you must not visit any Niner forums or facebook groups then. I always thought the fortywhiners name was lame, then I joined a facebook group. My god the level of butt hurt and complaining about refs in the NFCCC is off the charts.

My entire family, close group of friends, coworkers and the majority of people in my little town (el dorado hills, check it out great views) are Niner fans. I can honestly say I have not heard one complaint about the refs. You can find people that will comiserate on blog boards about any topic just to whine. We got some bad calls, everyone knows it, but neither I nor anyone else I know blames that for the loss.

Honestly, our QB and O put up more points on Seattle than did two other top 5 Os. People can dis Kap, but he produced more yds and points on the road than 5 time and current MVP Peyton Manning, so I feel pretty damn good about him and our team moving forward. Seahawks were the better team and deserved to win the SB. That is the bottom line for 2013.

[monkey]

Futureite, it's all over anything even remotely attached to the NFL, Niners fans claiming that they were jobbed by the officials and that's why they lost, otherwise they would have easily beaten the "obviously overrated" Broncos. I mean if the weak Seahawks can do it, the Niners would have easily done that too right?
This level of butthurt is making fans of other teams REALLY sick of the Niners from all accounts.

What hilarious is, if you point out that Kaepernick turned the ball over THREE TIMES in the fourth quarter, and mention that MIGHT just have something to do with why they lost, they just say "it's a game of inches," (parroting that video of butthurt no doubt), and "We were inches away from winning and would have if the refs hadn't stolen those inches", clearly proving that they have no idea how chaos theory actually works. Alos clearly proving they have no idea what THREE TURNOVERS IN THE FOURTH QUARTER does to a teams chances.
Kaepernick's comments about how if he'd only thrown the ball a little deeper, are being touted everywhere as evidence they should have won.

Not sure how you haven't seen this honestly...it's all over the place, butthurt Niners fans spouting this nonsense all over the place.

EDIT: BTW Futureite, personally I agree with the Niners fans that more calls went against the Niners in that game! It doesn't happen often for Seattle, but it did...the refs were not very good, and their bad calls favored us more than hurt us IMO.
That is NOT the reason the Niners lost though! It certainly didn't help, but it's NOT the reason for the loss.
The QB making a very poor decision (though the throw really wasn't that bad!) was the reason for that loss.

[Hawktawk]

The whiners playing the conspiracy card is ridiculous. I know there's another XL thread in here but please, that was so much worse than anything than those whining biatches think may have happened in the championship game. If only the 2005 Hawks with Hass at the controls had had a chance to be going for the end zone to win at the end, that's all we really would have asked. As it is numbnutz Kaep turned it over 3 times then ran off to New York to cheer lead for the donkeys and talk about how vulnerable the Hawks nickel D was. Umm OK. What happened to your Lombardi billboard BTW? LOL Russel Wilson was about 5 the last time you won it all.

Cant wait for next year..........

[Futureite]

Cmon guys, really. I listen to local talk radio here. I have the pulse of the area. My friends are all 49er fans, and not one of them has mentioned the officials.

Futureite, it's all over anything even remotely attached to the NFL, Niners fans claiming that they were jobbed by the officials and that's why they lost, otherwise they would have easily beaten the "obviously overrated" Broncos. I mean if the weak Seahawks can do it, the Niners would have easily done that too right?
This level of butthurt is making fans of other teams REALLY sick of the Niners from all accounts.

What hilarious is, if you point out that Kaepernick turned the ball over THREE TIMES in the fourth quarter, and mention that MIGHT just have something to do with why they lost, they just say "it's a game of inches," (parroting that video of butthurt no doubt), and "We were inches away from winning and would have if the refs hadn't stolen those inches", clearly proving that they have no idea how chaos theory actually works. Alos clearly proving they have no idea what THREE TURNOVERS IN THE FOURTH QUARTER does to a teams chances.
Kaepernick's comments about how if he'd only thrown the ball a little deeper, are being touted everywhere as evidence they should have won.

Not sure how you haven't seen this honestly...it's all over the place, butthurt Niners fans spouting this nonsense all over the place.

EDIT: BTW Futureite, personally I agree with the Niners fans that more calls went against the Niners in that game! It doesn't happen often for Seattle, but it did...the refs were not very good, and their bad calls favored us more than hurt us IMO.
That is NOT the reason the Niners lost though! It certainly didn't help, but it's NOT the reason for the loss.
The QB making a very poor decision (though the throw really wasn't that bad!) was the reason for that loss.

I just haven't heard this conspiracy theory - anywhere. I saw it for the first time in an Sfgate.com article today, but even the first 5 or 6 comments lambasted Kevin Lynch for posting it. Those are by and large our fans that post there, so that should give anyone a true read on how the fanbase feels.

Nobody I talked to has mentioned the refs. Everyone - to a man (or woman lol) focused on the last play, why didn't we call a timeout, why didn't he throw to Patton, etc. People will not focus on 3 4th qtr turnovers because 2 of them resulted in only 3 pts, and we had the ball with a chance to win with 30 sec. I have also not heard this disrespect for the Seahawks around here. People do not like them, but everyone admits they are good.

I will add, the genesis of the "whiner" mantra came about when I was a kid and our own fans complained about our own team not winning enough, QB play not being good enough, coaches needing to be shown the door after not winning the SB. Somehow people have morphed it into whining about other people's teams, conspiracies and arrogance. Have to say, in my experience we have one of the mosr insecure, least confident fanbases I've seen. In fact, over the lasr 3 yrs I've argued more with "fans" of my own team that we can beat x, y and z than I've argued with opposing fans. But if the hate fuels the rivalry, I'm all for it .

[c_hawkbob]

Y'all Niner fans aughta be proud to be the thorn in the side of the best team in football. A warrior measures his greatness by the greatness of his opponents, it does you little good to denigrate the Seahawks while you are clearly the next best team in the league to them.

You'd rather be second best to a poor team?

[Futureite]

Y'all Niner fans aughta be proud to be the thorn in the side of the best team in football. A warrior measures his greatness by the greatness of his opponents, it does you little good to denigrate the Seahawks while you are clearly the next best team in the league to them.

You'd rather be second best to a poor team?

Oh god, please don't become the ESPN.com fans that parrot everything Richard Sherman says or tweets. Lol, he says something and like a talking African Grey Parrot a legion of fans repeat "Raaawk 42-13 42-13 42-13", "Raaawk 49ers are 2nd best team, 49ers are 2nd best team". This site is the last island of normalcy and intelligent discussion left in your fanbase.

[THX-1138]

Y'all Niner fans aughta be proud to be the thorn in the side of the best team in football. A warrior measures his greatness by the greatness of his opponents, it does you little good to denigrate the Seahawks while you are clearly the next best team in the league to them.

You'd rather be second best to a poor team?

Oh god, please don't become the ESPN.com fans that parrot everything Richard Sherman says or tweets. Lol, he says something and like a talking African Grey Parrot a legion of fans repeat "Raaawk 42-13 42-13 42-13", "Raaawk 49ers are 2nd best team, 49ers are 2nd best team". This site is the last island of normalcy and intelligent discussion left in your fanbase.

Dude, you can say what you want. My son lives in San Francisco and he has been telling me how 49er fans have been complaining still about being "jobbed" in the NFCCG by the officials. He tells me how the prevailing sentiment is that Seattle was Goodell's pick all year long because they actually made the "live stadium" experience seem better than watching the games at home (something the NFL wants desperately to be repeated around the league). My son also says that there is a lot of talk about how that Lombardi trophy is really San Francisco's. What the?!

C'mon man, be real. Whose fanbase accuses the other team of cheating on just about every football discussion thread? The Seahawks fans might accuse Harbaugh of being a douche but I have yet to see a comment from a Hawks fan accusing the 49ers of cheating. Most comments are complimentary of Kap's play in general. The 49er fanbase routinely calls RW a midget. The bottom line is that on the whole your team's fans have almost no respect for our team or fanbase and that is part of what motivates the Seahawks players. That is one of the chips on their shoulders. I spend WAY MORE time on other teams forums than I should (I'm a weirdo, what can I tell you?) and BY FAR the 49ers fans are the most out of touch and disrespectful fans to our team in the league. There are a lot of battles you could choose to fight for your team and it's honor but this just aint one of them.

[monkey]

Y'all Niner fans aughta be proud to be the thorn in the side of the best team in football. A warrior measures his greatness by the greatness of his opponents, it does you little good to denigrate the Seahawks while you are clearly the next best team in the league to them.

You'd rather be second best to a poor team?

Oh god, please don't become the ESPN.com fans that parrot everything Richard Sherman says or tweets. Lol, he says something and like a talking African Grey Parrot a legion of fans repeat "Raaawk 42-13 42-13 42-13", "Raaawk 49ers are 2nd best team, 49ers are 2nd best team". This site is the last island of normalcy and intelligent discussion left in your fanbase.

42-13? Not sure what you're talking about there, but saying the Niners are the second best team is a bad thing now?
Are you completely deranged?
I've been saying the Niners are the second best team since the NFC Championship game ended before we beat Denver in the Superbowl.
I've been saying it here, in this forum, telling everyone that the "real Superbowl" was the NFC Championship game. I don't need Richard Sherman to tell me that, I said it before he did! I didn't need confirmation, it's obvious, but still it's nice to hear someone who ought to know, say the same thing.

[HumanCockroach]

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Y'all Niner fans aughta be proud to be the thorn in the side of the best team in football. A warrior measures his greatness by the greatness of his opponents, it does you little good to denigrate the Seahawks while you are clearly the next best team in the league to them.

You'd rather be second best to a poor team?

Oh god, please don't become the ESPN.com fans that parrot everything Richard Sherman says or tweets. Lol, he says something and like a talking African Grey Parrot a legion of fans repeat "Raaawk 42-13 42-13 42-13", "Raaawk 49ers are 2nd best team, 49ers are 2nd best team". This site is the last island of normalcy and intelligent discussion left in your fanbase.

What the hell are you thinking here? Insult the majority of Seahawks fans while back handing a compliment this way. There are a TON of bandwagon fans for this team, just the way it works, and I might point out the way it works for ALL successful franchises. It is what it is, but to be honest it is YOU that keeps bringing up that score, we don't f-ing CARE about that score, the only score we care about is 43-8 and the Niners weren't in the game, so what does it do for you to keep posting it? YOU not us is the one living in the past ( which to be fair makes sense, as Seattle has been more successful in the last 20 years) but taking stabs at ANY Hawks fan ( bandwagon or not) is pretty moronic on a Seahawks board.

Many of us have been here for a LONG,LONG time, supporting this team when they were just plain bad, years of mediocrity, and now we have our long awaited moment in the sun, and you want us to be quiet about it? Hell no. The Seahawks are indeed the best team in the NFL hands down at this moment, calling the Niners the "second best team" in the NFL isn't an insult, it's a compliment, if you are to thick to grasp this fan base giving your team respect, I simply do not know what to tell you.

Perhaps we should all simply reply with you suck, what have you done, we have a ring, you have jack mantra that has been the Niners fans calling card the last several years, course that wouldn't be us, we actually have been supporting this team for 30+ years to celebrate, not degrade others.

[Agent 86]

Y'all Niner fans aughta be proud to be the thorn in the side of the best team in football. A warrior measures his greatness by the greatness of his opponents, it does you little good to denigrate the Seahawks while you are clearly the next best team in the league to them.

You'd rather be second best to a poor team?

Oh god, please don't become the ESPN.com fans that parrot everything Richard Sherman says or tweets. Lol, he says something and like a talking African Grey Parrot a legion of fans repeat "Raaawk 42-13 42-13 42-13", "Raaawk 49ers are 2nd best team, 49ers are 2nd best team". This site is the last island of normalcy and intelligent discussion left in your fanbase.

42-13? Not sure what you're talking about there, but saying the Niners are the second best team is a bad thing now?
Are you completely deranged?
I've been saying the Niners are the second best team since the NFC Championship game ended before we beat Denver in the Superbowl.
I've been saying it here, in this forum, telling everyone that the "real Superbowl" was the NFC Championship game. I don't need Richard Sherman to tell me that, I said it before he did! I didn't need confirmation, it's obvious, but still it's nice to hear someone who ought to know, say the same thing.

Monkey, he is referring to the Dec.23, 2012 beat down the Hawks gave the 9'ers that night. The night that Kam Chancellor's hit changed the tide in this rivalry. The night the 'Hawks became legit Super Bowl threats. The night that made us all believe.

I have said it a few times on here before, it is also the night that made Future show his true colours. He still has not let go of that night and it shows in all his posts. If you could only see his posts pre Dec.23, 2012 compared to after, you would know what I mean. He changed that night. His run of dominance over the division was suddenly over. Another team moved into the "elite" status. I would say a shock to the system.

Future still has something to give here, he is not a class 1 troll. His team is still awesome IMO. He just has a hard time dealing with a fanbase that now has become confident, a lot of us cocky, and a team that mirrors his. He MUST realize he is on a Seahawks message board, and stop trying to get his little digs in.

I guess it makes for entertaining reading though, he sure does take a lot of heat but keeps coming back. I am sure stirring the pot is a shtick he enjoys.

[c_hawkbob]

Y'all Niner fans aughta be proud to be the thorn in the side of the best team in football. A warrior measures his greatness by the greatness of his opponents, it does you little good to denigrate the Seahawks while you are clearly the next best team in the league to them.

You'd rather be second best to a poor team?

Oh god, please don't become the ESPN.com fans that parrot everything Richard Sherman says or tweets. Lol, he says something and like a talking African Grey Parrot a legion of fans repeat "Raaawk 42-13 42-13 42-13", "Raaawk 49ers are 2nd best team, 49ers are 2nd best team". This site is the last island of normalcy and intelligent discussion left in your fanbase.

No idea what you're talking about, that's 100% me talking. I don't even recall Sherm having said the same thing.

[monkey]

*slaps forehead* Duh!!! I knew that...sometimes my age shows. I guess I'm just not thinking back that far right now, I'm more interested in what just happened, but truth be told, I should have been thinking of that game, it was the one that changed both the Seahawks and the Niners status, and it hasn't changed back.
From that moment on the Seahawks knew for a fact that they could beat the Niners at ANY time, all they had to do was their best. It also put a huge seed of doubt in the minds of the Niners, that seed is still there, mark my words. The Niners barely eeked out a win in San Fran, but that did nothing to erase the doubt, and the NFC Championship game, where the Seahawks took the Niners ABSOLUTE BEST SHOT and still won...yeah the Niners are reeling right now, no longer sure they CAN beat the Seahawks.

So I understand why Future is fixated on that game, if I were a Niners fan, I would be too. Erasing the lingering trauma from that game has to priority number one in the minds of Niners fans who know anything about football.

I know this, when I made the niners are the second best team comment, I didn't mean it as a shot at the Broncos, (though I suppose that can be inferred) and I didn't mean it as a compliment either...just a statement of fact.
Fact: Seahawks are the best team in football, and the Forty Niners are the second best team in football, therefore the NFC Championship game was the match up of football's two best teams, and thus, "the real Superbowl".

[RiverDog]

I just haven't heard this conspiracy theory - anywhere. I saw it for the first time in an Sfgate.com article today, but even the first 5 or 6 comments lambasted Kevin Lynch for posting it. Those are by and large our fans that post there, so that should give anyone a true read on how the fanbase feels.

Nobody I talked to has mentioned the refs. Everyone - to a man (or woman lol) focused on the last play, why didn't we call a timeout, why didn't he throw to Patton, etc. People will not focus on 3 4th qtr turnovers because 2 of them resulted in only 3 pts, and we had the ball with a chance to win with 30 sec. I have also not heard this disrespect for the Seahawks around here. People do not like them, but everyone admits they are good.

I will add, the genesis of the "whiner" mantra came about when I was a kid and our own fans complained about our own team not winning enough, QB play not being good enough, coaches needing to be shown the door after not winning the SB. Somehow people have morphed it into whining about other people's teams, conspiracies and arrogance. Have to say, in my experience we have one of the mosr insecure, least confident fanbases I've seen. In fact, over the lasr 3 yrs I've argued more with "fans" of my own team that we can beat x, y and z than I've argued with opposing fans. But if the hate fuels the rivalry, I'm all for it .

It's all over the internet, Future. Don't act so naive. Google "Niners conspiracy Seahawks" and see what you come up with. It's bound to get brought up in any fan forum or blog representing both the Seahawks and the Niners. I voted in a poll question in B/R's 49'ers blog and it turns out that nearly 38% of the respondents felt that there was a conspiracy, nearly as many that said that there wasn't, so quit pretending that it's just some random element of your fan base that's been sleeping in a moon beam.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1949 ... ing-rigged

And you do have to admit that your head coach has "whined" about a number of things over the years, from the Seahawks' PED violations to complaining about refs not calling penalties on our DB's to his very visible and animated sideline reactions to every single call that goes against his team, more so than any head coach I've seen in recent memory. Or what about that dorky "Face of the Franchise" quarterback of yours, whining about Richard Sherman's final play in saying that if he "had just threw that pass a foot further"...? Cry me a river!

It shouldn't be surprising that your team has been tagged "whiners" just as we shouldn't be surprised that we've drawn some negative comments about our team when Sherman went on his rant.

[HumanCockroach]

Y'all Niner fans aughta be proud to be the thorn in the side of the best team in football. A warrior measures his greatness by the greatness of his opponents, it does you little good to denigrate the Seahawks while you are clearly the next best team in the league to them.

You'd rather be second best to a poor team?

Oh god, please don't become the ESPN.com fans that parrot everything Richard Sherman says or tweets. Lol, he says something and like a talking African Grey Parrot a legion of fans repeat "Raaawk 42-13 42-13 42-13", "Raaawk 49ers are 2nd best team, 49ers are 2nd best team". This site is the last island of normalcy and intelligent discussion left in your fanbase.

No idea what you're talking about, that's 100% me talking. I don't even recall Sherm having said the same thing.

Because he didn't. Future basically said all our fans are classless, and that this used to be the only place for knowledgeable Seahawks fans, but we are now becoming classless as well, just like our all pro corner. Ta dah, it's Future at his very best.

[kalibane]

It's seriously like a certain segment of the 49ers population was sent a talking points bulletin. When discussing the Super Bowl or NFC championship game bring these points up in order. 1.* Reffing was not balanced in NFCCG. 2.** Seahawks only won because they were at home, on a neutral field or in SF we definitely would have one and therefore were really the better team. And Seahawk fans should almost be ashamed to have their team to win a "close" game. 3.*** Sherman has no class. 4.**** Kaepernick was just slightly off on his throw and if it was higher it would have been a TD. 5.***** Call Seahawks fans classless, like Sherman, when they argue against any of our conspiracy theories or what ifs. 6.****** Remind everyone that the 49ers have won 5 rings.



* Ignore Jeremy Lane getting clotheslined on the sideline and Kaep kicking a fumble away from the Seahawks which wasn't flagged and the fact that the Navarro Bowman strip not being called actually worked greatly in favor of the 49ers by moving the ball off the goal line a spot that severly limits play calling.

** The 2 point win in SF which had one sided officiating in favor of the Niners is an unimpeachable example of the better team winning. Unlike a 6 point win at home. But make no mention of this game... and definitely make no mention of the two absolute ass kickings the 49ers received in the Clink over the past two years. If a Seahawk fan brings that up tell them those were in the past and regular season games aren't important even though those regular season games was how the Seahawks EARNED home field advantage in the first place.

*** Pretend that Crabtree is just completely innocent and is a decent dude. Ignore the mic'd up footage that confirms that the only words Sherman said to Crabtree were "hell of a game". Pushing someone in the face is a perfectly heat of the moment reaction to frustration but calling someone a name is the lowest of the low.

**** Pretend Crabtree never pushed off and that there were two more yards in between Crabtree and the sideline than there really were. Also pretend that is the one pattern that you absolutely can't complete on Sherman and the ball never should have been thrown. Pretend that Crabtree was open even though the film shows Sherman was right where he wanted to be. Pretend that Sherman didn't do the exact same thing against the Giants on the exact same pattern in the exact same spot on the field. It was all luck and a bad throw. Also ignore that the ball actually was thrown pretty well.

***** Ignore the fact that there hasn't really been as much gloating as should have been expected given the amount of trash talk 49er fans were talking before the game. Forget that pointing out holes in logic should be what we all do. Not accepting our jaded perspective is the epitome of classlessness.

****** This is the one area where talking about the past has relevance to the present.

[RiverDog]

LOL! Great post, Kal!

[Hawktawk]

+1. Bingo we have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HumanCockroach]

The thing I find absolutely fascinating is the hypocrisy involved, I mean it wasn't that terribly long ago when they were telling this fan base to stop "whining" about getting hosed in a SB was it? Nor was it that long ago that a certain Niner fan was telling us only one thing matters. Well the Seahawks EARNED that one thing, and while there was SEVERAL questionable calls that worked AGAINST Seattle, the game as a whole was allowed to be played out on the field by the PLAYERS what the F more do they want?

Cry me a G-damn river.

Also amazing to me the amount of "they are all bandwagon fans" or where were they the last three years? Garbage floating around. This Franchise has one of the BEST attendance records in NFL history, period. We don't dust off our hidden Raiders or Charger jerseys when there is a down season, we show up, show out, and walk away deaf, and without voices week in and week out. So to quote a certain dog on this board.

Suck it Niners fans........

[burrrton]

Kal bringing the wood...

[burrrton]

And God knows I'm sympathetic to crappy refereeing. The problem for them is that game wasn't that poorly officiated, at least not in a completely lopsided way. We were penalized more than they were, and for more yards fer chrissakes.

I think a couple of calls can *easily* be argued to have been BS against them, but that doesn't make the game a travesty.

XL, on the other hand, I can, and have, make a strong case, with timestamps, statistics, and video, for it being *completely* one-sided.

Compare the two all you want in your 49er circle jerk, but don't do it with me.

[monkey]

It's seriously like a certain segment of the 49ers population was sent a talking points bulletin. When discussing the Super Bowl or NFC championship game bring these points up in order. 1.* Reffing was not balanced in NFCCG. 2.** Seahawks only won because they were at home, on a neutral field or in SF we definitely would have one and therefore were really the better team. And Seahawk fans should almost be ashamed to have their team to win a "close" game. 3.*** Sherman has no class. 4.**** Kaepernick was just slightly off on his throw and if it was higher it would have been a TD. 5.***** Call Seahawks fans classless, like Sherman, when they argue against any of our conspiracy theories or what ifs. 6.****** Remind everyone that the 49ers have won 5 rings.



* Ignore Jeremy Lane getting clotheslined on the sideline and Kaep kicking a fumble away from the Seahawks which wasn't flagged and the fact that the Navarro Bowman strip not being called actually worked greatly in favor of the 49ers by moving the ball off the goal line a spot that severly limits play calling.

** The 2 point win in SF which had one sided officiating in favor of the Niners is an unimpeachable example of the better team winning. Unlike a 6 point win at home. But make no mention of this game... and definitely make no mention of the two absolute ass kickings the 49ers received in the Clink over the past two years. If a Seahawk fan brings that up tell them those were in the past and regular season games aren't important even though those regular season games was how the Seahawks EARNED home field advantage in the first place.

*** Pretend that Crabtree is just completely innocent and is a decent dude. Ignore the mic'd up footage that confirms that the only words Sherman said to Crabtree were "hell of a game". Pushing someone in the face is a perfectly heat of the moment reaction to frustration but calling someone a name is the lowest of the low.

**** Pretend Crabtree never pushed off and that there were two more yards in between Crabtree and the sideline than there really were. Also pretend that is the one pattern that you absolutely can't complete on Sherman and the ball never should have been thrown. Pretend that Crabtree was open even though the film shows Sherman was right where he wanted to be. Pretend that Sherman didn't do the exact same thing against the Giants on the exact same pattern in the exact same spot on the field. It was all luck and a bad throw. Also ignore that the ball actually was thrown pretty well.

***** Ignore the fact that there hasn't really been as much gloating as should have been expected given the amount of trash talk 49er fans were talking before the game. Forget that pointing out holes in logic should be what we all do. Not accepting our jaded perspective is the epitome of classlessness.

****** This is the one area where talking about the past has relevance to the present.

Thank you for this Kalibane!
Seriously, thank you for this, it's absolutely perfect.

[Zorn76]

I dunno.

My 49er friends down here aren't on board with the conspiracy stuff, and KNBR (the 49ers flagship station) commented on it simply because it's news that's football related. The overwhelming majority on the air saw the game for what it really was - a legit Seahawks win.

In no way, shape, or form has it become an epidemic of complaints from the masses, at least here locally. If nothing else, it serves as a filter that distinguishes between those who follow the game and those who don't.

[kalibane]

No one is saying that all 49er fans are subscribing to the conspiracy theory but to come in here and pretend that no one out there in niner land is crying about it is just ridiculous. Go to any forum, subreddit or Sports group on facebook with healthy 49er fan population and you can't throw a rock without someone someone talking about how crooked the NFCCG was.

I'm not accusing Future (or his direct circle of friends) of necessarily subscribing to this mindset but I also don't apprceiate him coming here and acting like it's all in our imagination.

[RiverDog]

I dunno.

My 49er friends down here aren't on board with the conspiracy stuff, and KNBR (the 49ers flagship station) commented on it simply because it's news that's football related. The overwhelming majority on the air saw the game for what it really was - a legit Seahawks win.

In no way, shape, or form has it become an epidemic of complaints from the masses, at least here locally. If nothing else, it serves as a filter that distinguishes between those who follow the game and those who don't.

I don't know about that, Zorny. I took a survey in the 49'ers blog at B/R that stated the question: "Was the NFC Championship Game rigged?". Of the 4,000 people that responded, over 38%, nearly as many people that said that there wasn't, subscribe to the conspiracy theory. I'll admit that it isn't very scientific, but it is evidence that it isn't just some fringe element of the Whiner Nation that was watching the game from the grassy knoll.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1949 ... ing-rigged

[Zorn76]

Well, it is the Bleacher Report, lol.

I get what you and Kal are saying, RD.

I'm coming from what's considered ground zero in terms of 49er fans and their media coverage. It just didn't make waves around here. Talked about for a segment, then gone soon after.

The internet is a whole different animal, naturally. And one could think that most of those who voted at the BR website were from CA.

But, again, locally it was giving credit where credit was due - to Seattle for playing a better game. When I think controversy, I think along the lines of what we saw with XL eight yrs ago. Now THAT was something, lol, because it had the entire football nation (and media) talking about what was wrong with that game, not just the Seattle press.

That discussion also lasted for weeks, if not months, and continues to be considered a black eye on the league to this day.

The recent conspiracy's legs were reduced to the 'net, and within days or a week that talked had died.

The game that Niner fans point to the most as being b.s. was the loss in New Orleans, where Ahmad Brooks was flagged for the (head/neck) sack on Brees (which I thought was a legit call). They talked about that one here in the bay area for a couple weeks after the fact.

In my mind, a true controversy extends beyond internet sites and their polls, especially when we're getting into B/R territory. It has to be discussed on espn and NFLN for days or a week, or longer. I just don't see this one as having the same credibility as XL complaints from Seahawk fans, especially since those sentiments were being talked about non stop nation wide at the time.

[Seahawks4Ever]

All over the internet every time there is a story involving the 40Whiners I go to the comment section and what do I see? I see a plethora of 40Whiners fans who are totally convinced that Pete Carroll "forces" players to take PED's and that we cheat at the Clink by stealing "signs" and have now "admitted" that we stole signs during the Super Bowl.

I mean, it is real SAD that a once proud fan base has devolved in to a bunch of conspiracy freaks. I mean, our players figured out Peyton Manning and his stupid OMAHA by studying film, something other teams should try instead of pointing fingers. The Seahawks cheat,cheat,cheat that is all that they seem to be able to say. Well, what happened is they got OUT WORKED and that's the whole truth. This calling our Seahawks cheaters comes directly from Jim Hairball and it seems his fans parrott him. I mean, just push Futurites buttons and even he devolves in to the mantra. Well, go ahead Frisco LOSERS just keep thinking that you are some how ENTITLED and that you are not out worked and out played and out coached!

[RiverDog]

All over the internet every time there is a story involving the 40Whiners I go to the comment section and what do I see? I see a plethora of 40Whiners fans who are totally convinced that Pete Carroll "forces" players to take PED's and that we cheat at the Clink by stealing "signs" and have now "admitted" that we stole signs during the Super Bowl.

I mean, it is real SAD that a once proud fan base has devolved in to a bunch of conspiracy freaks. I mean, our players figured out Peyton Manning and his stupid OMAHA by studying film, something other teams should try instead of pointing fingers. The Seahawks cheat,cheat,cheat that is all that they seem to be able to say. Well, what happened is they got OUT WORKED and that's the whole truth. This calling our Seahawks cheaters comes directly from Jim Hairball and it seems his fans parrott him. I mean, just push Futurites buttons and even he devolves in to the mantra. Well, go ahead Frisco LOSERS just keep thinking that you are some how ENTITLED and that you are not out worked and out played and out coached!

Lord knows I'd rather be dead than sticking up for the red jerseys, but I do want to point out that there were a helluva lot of otherwise very rational Seahawk fans that swore on a stack of Bibles that XL was fixed. Any of the former PI posters remember Steven Snell? There was also a large segment of Who Dat that felt Bounty Gate was manufactured by the league because they didn't want a host team playing in the Super Bowl.

The Niner nation probably has more moon bats and looney tunes than any other fan base in the nation, after all, it is the California way. But they aren't the only ones.

[HumanCockroach]

All over the internet every time there is a story involving the 40Whiners I go to the comment section and what do I see? I see a plethora of 40Whiners fans who are totally convinced that Pete Carroll "forces" players to take PED's and that we cheat at the Clink by stealing "signs" and have now "admitted" that we stole signs during the Super Bowl.

I mean, it is real SAD that a once proud fan base has devolved in to a bunch of conspiracy freaks. I mean, our players figured out Peyton Manning and his stupid OMAHA by studying film, something other teams should try instead of pointing fingers. The Seahawks cheat,cheat,cheat that is all that they seem to be able to say. Well, what happened is they got OUT WORKED and that's the whole truth. This calling our Seahawks cheaters comes directly from Jim Hairball and it seems his fans parrott him. I mean, just push Futurites buttons and even he devolves in to the mantra. Well, go ahead Frisco LOSERS just keep thinking that you are some how ENTITLED and that you are not out worked and out played and out coached!

Lord knows I'd rather be dead than sticking up for the red jerseys, but I do want to point out that there were a helluva lot of otherwise very rational Seahawk fans that swore on a stack of Bibles that XL was fixed. Any of the former PI posters remember Steven Snell? There was also a large segment of Who Dat that felt Bounty Gate was manufactured by the league because they didn't want a host team playing in the Super Bowl.

The Niner nation probably has more moon bats and looney tunes than any other fan base in the nation, after all, it is the California way. But they aren't the only ones.

Yep. I have long stood by the theory that XL was NOT fixed, and have stood up for that thought since directly following the game. Doesn't mean I ignore the horrid calls, but things happen to every team in the NFL. Just the way it is. Every fan base has them, and I am not going to be one to claim otherwise, that said, it is what losers ( for lack of a better term) do in the end, they justify losses, failures etc, it is the human condition, and I'll admit openly to doing it as well. Not saying I've claimed "cheaters", because I haven't, but justifying losses, oh yeah, you bet ya'. It helps with the pain.

Ignore the Niners fans, they are not speaking from a "good" place. I for one relish being the new "bad boys" of the NFL, especially if it comes with a few more trophies....

[Seahawks4Ever]

No matter how I have felt about XL over the years I wouldn't want our first Super Bowl win to have been played out any differently. I am so glad that it was THIS TEAM, THESE PLAYERS, THESE COACHES, THIS FRONT OFFICE, THIS 12th MAN to be the ones that finally scaled the mountain and stood at the top as the #1 team in the NFL.

I added the 12th. Man because lets be honest, the 12th. Man DID NOT show up in Detroit for what ever reason. The 12th. Man DID SHOW UP in New York/New Jersey and it was great to see.

I mean, if Ford Field would not have been filled with 95% Steeler fans during XL would the game have been called the same way? Who knows? I do know that the Big Ben non-TD TD was total B.S. But the most B.S. thing about that bad call was that Mike Holmgren "lost it" and it affected his control of the team both before the half and after it. In fact, I don't think his head was 100% in the game after that egregious bad call and that hurt our Seahawks more than anything the officials did or didn't do in the 2nd. half.

I don't believe that there was a "conspiracy" by the NFL to "give" the game to the Steelers. It was just a very badly officiated game and the NFL still owes the Seahawks an apology rather than the back handed slap they did give the team. Even the referee admitted he "kicked" a "few" calls that the NFL to this day refuses to acknowledge happened.

BUT! I can let it go now, I saw our Seattle Seahawks totally kick the behinds of their Super Bowl opponent and win the game going away. I am so glad they won the way that they did and that there was no doubt, no hint of controversy, nada, nothing. They won with their heads held high!

[RiverDog]

No matter how I have felt about XL over the years I wouldn't want our first Super Bowl win to have been played out any differently. I am so glad that it was THIS TEAM, THESE PLAYERS, THESE COACHES, THIS FRONT OFFICE, THIS 12th MAN to be the ones that finally scaled the mountain and stood at the top as the #1 team in the NFL.

I added the 12th. Man because lets be honest, the 12th. Man DID NOT show up in Detroit for what ever reason. The 12th. Man DID SHOW UP in New York/New Jersey and it was great to see.

I mean, if Ford Field would not have been filled with 95% Steeler fans during XL would the game have been called the same way? Who knows? I do know that the Big Ben non-TD TD was total B.S. But the most B.S. thing about that bad call was that Mike Holmgren "lost it" and it affected his control of the team both before the half and after it. In fact, I don't think his head was 100% in the game after that egregious bad call and that hurt our Seahawks more than anything the officials did or didn't do in the 2nd. half.

I don't believe that there was a "conspiracy" by the NFL to "give" the game to the Steelers. It was just a very badly officiated game and the NFL still owes the Seahawks an apology rather than the back handed slap they did give the team. Even the referee admitted he "kicked" a "few" calls that the NFL to this day refuses to acknowledge happened.

BUT! I can let it go now, I saw our Seattle Seahawks totally kick the behinds of their Super Bowl opponent and win the game going away. I am so glad they won the way that they did and that there was no doubt, no hint of controversy, nada, nothing. They won with their heads held high!

That was one of the things that didn't get enough attention in the aftermath of XL. Detroit is closer to Pittsburgh than Spokane is to Seattle, so of course, there's going to be tons more fans from the Steelers fan base when they're well within a day's drive and don't have to so much as spend a night in that God forsaken war zone of a town not to mention that there's a lot of Pittsburgh fans in the Detroit area. IMO the crowd was a large factor in how that game was called.

But I'm with ya about our victory last month washing out that bitter taste left by XL.